PLO > High Stakes > 200/400 PLO Session Against Isildur, Sauce, and Gus (1 of 3)
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DescriptionIn his first video for Run It Once, Phil plays 4 tables of $200/$400 PLO against Sauce, Isildur, Ziigmund and Gus. He touches on some of his reads on each of the players before diving into the action.
BiroAKGreat stuff as usual bro.Phil GalfondThanks, man. Looking forward to answering any questions.
Pelayo GilGreat video Phil ty!
Eric BurnsideHey thanks for the Video I enjoyed it.
pacmangGreat Video Phil. It seems like you are looser from the blinds compared to before. both defending and 3bettingPhil GalfondI am. Good observation :)Abu NazirI thought it was just cause it was 3 handed. Can you explain why you decided to start playing more hands from the blinds(phil)?
David JimenezVery goood video, I appreciate you're giving a taste of the site by making this one free. Gl with the site. I'll be a customer.
Joe NelliganThis may be something you prefer to not speak on, but it is perplexing to me that you would provide content at these nosebleed stakes. I mean you can teach most people as well if not better at lower stakes that translate to games they would actually be participating in, and it seems to me you would be giving a massive advantage to the limited player pool who play you at these stakes.
Also, just as a comment, I don't know if you do this consciously or not but I really like when you point out a hand that you are about to elaborate on, especially one that has completely played out, which you are going to revisit because it gives me an opportunity to watch the hand, pause the video and think about why you are going to elaborate on a specific hand. I really like this because a lot of time I find myself agreeing with a video producer once they have explained a hand but it is something I never would have considered independently. Obviously not every hand can be like this and a long delay is not necessary but for example how you mentioned that you would be talking about the bottom left hand where you had top pair and the nut flush blocker very deep and heads up it gave me time to watch the hand pause the video and think about it myself before listening to your analysis.
Anyways, great vid.Phil GalfondThanks for the questions and feedback!
Though I do think it hurts me to show my play against nosebleed opponents, I know that it's something our members will want to watch. I am not going to tell people to sign up for a site where I reveal only a small part of my game. I made the decision to teach, and I'd like to do it right.
I have confidence in my ability to re-adjust if I find my opponents adjusting to me. It's helpful that I know with certainty that specific opponents of mine will watch my videos, so I know what I've given away to them and can take that into account.
When I mentioned I'd elaborate on another hand later, I wasn't intentionally giving the members a chance to think it through before I spoke. I just didn't want to interrupt my other explanation. I'll keep it in mind that you liked this.
pacmangPhil, in regards to you being a bit looser pre oop. I remember you wouldn't 3bet a hand like AcQcK7 or KQ95ds. (basically you disliked danglers when 3betting oop) What prompted you to make this change and how does this affect your frequencies post flop?Phil GalfondPart of me changing has to do with more confidence in my postflop game. Part of it has to do with me believing my old strategy wasn't optimal, and that I was not building enough big pots with an equity/playability edge.
A big part of the change is more of an adaptation than a game change. Players are now opening in LP with many more hands, especially at ante tables. Some open 90%+ on the button. I have to widen my 3bet range to adjust to this.
Hard to sum up how it affects my postflop frequencies, but I'll say this - I know my range and my opponent's well, and I keep in mind which boards I hit harder than they do and which boards I don't.
mysteryxHey Phil, I have to say that even though I just play PLO for fun (usually when drinking) and I'm not even close to understanding the game on a deeper level, your video is still really cool to watch, your explanation of your thinking process is fantastic. Are you planning to make any videos about NLHE cash games?
Great job and good luck with the site.Phil GalfondThanks mysteryx! Glad you enjoyed it.
I already have my first NLHE cash game video out ( http://www.runitonce.com/nlhe/phil4-2/ ) , and I will be making more.
Nick PogonoskiHey mate,
Loved the vid and glad to see u making more again. I dont think you mentioned it but am interested in how your play changes when so much deeper on bottom left compared to other tables?
Cheers and good luck with the site and the WPT something 2dayPaul NisbetGday Phil, will you still be doing updates on your Blog. Keep up the good workPhil Galfond@Nick, this is a good question, but one that needs a chapter in a book or a video to answer. Perhaps I'll work on a concept video covering adjustments to make as stack sizes change.
Terry Fanhi Phil, just wanted to point out that the video streaming is extremely laggy for me and I live in Asia where I get 50mb/sec for download speed so I have no idea what the issue is. Just thought you might wanna know the issue so you can try to fix it for Asia located members.Phil GalfondThank you for letting me know, Terry. It's important to me that we fix this, and I'll talk to the guys about it.pacmangI'm also in Asia but its not laggy for me fwiw
Owen ShielsNot a PLO player but the video was a great insight in how many different things you take into consideration in every spot. I'm an mtt player so for years i've basically known the standard plays but really want to develop different strategies so hopefully seeing how you guys think about poker will help me come up with better decissions in mtt spots.
pacmanghey Phil wanted to ask you early on in the video on table 4 you 3bet KQ96ds and got called by btn and flop was A25r. You talked about how you would check here vs some.
What type of players would you look to check against? and also what would your plan be after checking.
btw an issue with the video is that if I am streaming and I leave the screen idle and come back in say 15 mins it says "an error occured please reload the video." just fyiPhil GalfondPac, I'd mostly be checking against very tough players, and even then, only some of the time. A lot of tough players don't do very well in this spot anyways, so I'm not terribly worried about getting exploited. Once it starts happening, I'll adjust.
ClemensMGreat video! I kinda was a little suprised about your c/f with the KJT6 on the 763ss against sauce. I understand the point that sauces range hit the board much better than yours but I was wondering what your bluffingrange you have there. It seems like you have a hand that can hit some turns pretty well and it feels like sauce it not raise a huge persentage of the time if your betting range is that tight there. Are you checking most of your good hands like overpairs with spades as well on this board and what would your flop bluffingrange be if you bet some good hands here as well?Phil GalfondI check almost all of my hands on this board. I have a c/r, c/c and c/f range, as well as a small betting range. I find that c/r works much better for value and bluff hands on boards this low/dynamic against tough players, because when you bet and get called, it's very difficult to navigate turns and rivers without giving up info about your hand for your (tough) opponent to take advantage of.
Can we expect vids like philosophy?
Keep up the good work!
And yes, we can :)
mikethanks for the free video
around 38:00 you explain that you need to bluff A775ts for balancing purposes. you mentioned that it is likely -EV play in a vacuum. is it common that you need to make -EV plays for balance's sake? is this also true in NLH?Phil GalfondIt's very rare that I make a play that I consider -ev for balance. This spot, I guess that what I mean is, if you never bluff, you stop getting called, so you need to bluff sometimes. I think the bet was probably close to neutral EV, but important for my overall game.
If a bluff spot is every very -ev, it's often because your opponent is playing poorly, or your opponents range is way too strong. In both of those cases, balance is less important.
AdamHendrixBig fan of yours! Been listening to your stuff for a while now. You are a great ambassador to the game! Hope to see more of you.Phil GalfondThanks, Adam! You will see more of me, don't worry.
BadBeatLustGr8 video Phil, only have one question which is a bit irrelevant to your lines.
How come you don't use a HUD?Phil GalfondI often use a HUD, but against players I'm very familiar with, I turn it off. I find that it helps me focus.
NedfrystHey, could you elaborate on what you get by buying the premium membership?
Nic MorganHey Phil Thanks for the free Vid. Brilliant way to attract people to the site as I think they will watch anything with Isildur1 in the title.
Anyway, my question or suggestion I guess would be that you maybe talk more about the general weaknesses in your opponent's games. You talk a lot about how good they are and the good things they do, but we all know that these guys are brilliant players and have tons of good stuff about their games. However, there has to be something making you play the games, so they obv do things wrong as well.
I just think it would be good to know what things you were doing to exploit their weaknesses rather than just what things you are doing to adjust to the good things they do.
Ofc totally appreciate all you do for the community and you seem like the most down-to-Earth guy in the high stakes world. Keep up the good work and good lookin out for us little guys!
p.s. Any chance we will see an OMG appearance soon? :)
Great video. When you say that you need more bluffs combos in your range or more value combos etc, is that from spending hours away from table using something like Flopzilla? Do you use a spreadsheet or something to build ranges for different board textures? Or do you just ballpark these ranges? Seems very overwhelming to try and create a spreadsheet with all different kinds of board textures with value ranges, bluff ranges, check-back ranges etc.
I feel like I've lost my edge in poker recently...is this the only way to get better?
I don't use a flopzilla type program. These are just ballpark ranges. The tools available are finally making PLO sims like this more manageable. Maybe in the near future we'll be able to easily get exact numbers.
In how many times the variance in PLO-6max is higher than in NLH 6-max?
mason88Hi a little bit confused at the 5:00 mark, you decide to cc with AK69 on KJ68, do you think cc turn and check river makes our hand less faced up on a scary river (4,5,7,9,Q,A,10) THAN betting the turn and checking the river?
So the benefits of check calling turn includes making him think we have more draws and make him give up more on scary river cards (b/c he expects us to donk two pairs+ more often so our range is weighted towards draws)? And like you said, also incorporating a cc range in this spot as oppose to either lead out turn and never have a check-calling range? And he might stab here with worse hands more often than calling our bet on the turn with an inferior hand. Also he might vbet/bluff too frequently on bricks and when we make a full house. Are there any other reasons why you choose to check call instead of betting turn?
50kmHey Phil great vid as usual. I play mostly at zoom, so I don't think its as important to balance my ranges as precisely as you do. At what stakes do you think that we need to start being more aware of this?
newtGreat stuff, Phil. This makes me want to join RIT without even being able to play online (USA)
First comment on the site! Just signed up today and am planning to watch all of your vids starting from oldest to newest.
I have kind of a combo question about this video and a hand in part 2 of this series. For this one, at the hand at 40:00 where you make a blockers play with A775 then river the 1-card straight, you say you like to bet half-pot with both your value and your bluffs since your opponent will often have the 1-card straight and will call 100% of the time with it. I agreed with this...
However, in part 2 of this series at 40:30, you turned the nuts with JTxx on a double flush draw board. You still had the nuts on the river but it put out a 4-to-a-straight, and you suggested you should bet near-pot with your entire range here to maybe make him fold the 1-card straight. I didn't really understand this.
Can you explain the differences in these two hands? Thanks!Zachary FreemanIn the A775 blocker 1-card straight hand he is trying to rep any straight with his half pot size bet. He thinks that he wont often get looked up by anything but a straight. Also the flop was 854, so when he c/r flop he is repping any 67xx not 79xx.
In the JT nut straight hand he is already repping JTxx on the turn so when he bets river he can credibly rep JT- nut straight specifcally not just a T-high straight. He chose a bigger bet size becasue his value range is now even narrower and he wants to maximize FE vs T-high straights that arent auto calls by villain given what he was already repping nut straight on turn specifcally.
Great video Phil... Thanks for doing that... I've only played Omaha once at the Aria, 5/10, won 8k in about 2hrs, wish all my standings were as good as that first time sitting :)
Look forward to more videos...
Keep up the good work...
All the best
holy shit PL40k
How can I learn all the stuff that Phil Galfond knows? I guess I'm gonna sign up to BlueFire poker, maybe they teach it all in there
I felt the video was very informative, I was hoping for deeper stacks across the tables though. I felt the KsJ76 open from the CO was a little light given the aggressive play of the other players, though I am not familiar with how antes effect opens at high stakes.
Still a very strong video, especially for a return. I look forward to watching many more.