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DatpKay

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the more I think about this spot I want to have 2 sizes/lines here

One being the bet 1/3 flop w Aspade A, flopped flushes, sets and "nothing"

And the other being shoves: KK, QQ, Aspades K, Jspades J
....

The problem I have with your thought of
" But if you're willing to get it all in by open shoving the flop why wouldn't you be willing to call off a shove after you check or make a smaller open?"

is that

if we bet small, he can now call everything CORRECTLY that at least has a toughish decision vs the shove (Kspades Q, AK w a spade etc., JJ, 88, 77 w spade)
...
calling a shove and shoving simply isn't the same thing...

Jan. 20, 2017 | 1:26 p.m.

and vs a shove? :)
and note that u dont wanna see.... 25 cards on the turn

Jan. 19, 2017 | 5:06 p.m.

ur hud is insane, lol...
would/could u post the details of which stats it includes?

Jan. 19, 2017 | 10 a.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: 4b pot overpair on suited board
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $190.83
SB: $205.00 (Hero)
BB: $149.45
UTG: $200.12
MP: $204.35
CO: $94.23
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $6.00, BN raises to $20.00, Hero raises to $46.00, BB folds, CO folds, BN calls $26.00
Flop ($100.00) 9 6 3
Hero bets $159.00 and is all in, BN calls $144.83 and is all in

Jan. 18, 2017 | 11:11 a.m.

I see the logic of c/calling here @aamadeo @lofigr...
However to be honest I rarely see him bluffing here since almost everything has SD value...
Only hands on both sides kind of are AQ spades, rarely 46 spades, and Ax (unpaired) spades that might elect to bluff (from his position)..

So in some ways I feel checking here gives him too much option to play perfect and define sizing.
Since he now can cb any Kx, QQ, Overpair, Tx and can decide the sizing with his sets/better two pairs
and whereas I bet I dont see him bluffing and he'll still only call with sets and two pairs since everything comes in (QJ, 68) or is busted anyways.

So in general I feel this is a spot where we give him too much of a freeroll by not merging but of course I might be wrong - this is just what my intuition tells me.

Jan. 18, 2017 | 10:10 a.m.

32:15
A7s vs SB open on AQ2 7
SB checks

Which other hands do you start betting so big here?

What do you do with A8/A6?
Do you 3b AJo pre?

I often feel this is a spot where a small and a big bet do have the same foldequity since I don't really see him c/calling size dependent that often..

What do you do with KTo here?

The reason I am asking is that I feel the large betsize will heavily be skewed to be very nuttish

Jan. 18, 2017 | 9:41 a.m.

25:35
68 vs BB defend on Q78ss 5r turn

Hey, great video so far.

I often get caught up barreling here reasoning that
"I block set and two pair combinations, I can catch up to his Qs, I can 3barrel/overbet river him off of Qx etc., I fold out his 2 overcard float equity"
...
Do you think this is close between bet and check behind or do you strongly favor check behind and 'protect' by calling down with the 'right' frequency?

Jan. 18, 2017 | 9:29 a.m.

Each and every hand you get dealt, you ask yourself, is this hand playable +EV according to this field, my strategy and my assumptions.
If the answer is no, you fold.
ez

Jan. 17, 2017 | 7:17 p.m.

bet 109

Jan. 15, 2017 | 10:26 p.m.

what is your question? <_<

Jan. 15, 2017 | 10:25 p.m.

Yeah... these were my thoughts (in my hindbrain) as well...
Even if we loose and the fold is a good soulread it is probably not too bad to show him a (preferably quickly called) 99 here for "future EV"

Things that lead me to fold were:
1. He is not one of the regulars I am 'afraid' of or have marked as VERY thinking/analytic/adaptive
2. I think a general population read is that after I call the turn I will be put on TT, JJ a large percentage of the time and in my experience people tend to play "honestly" in these spots "regular vs regular" since it is kind of difficult to find a "balanced" 3barrelbluff frequency because "with which hands"?...
JT is a good idea but after that?!

Welps,...
Always torn between making technically good calls and trusting my gut and often in these spots I find that people are skewed + his sizing and timing gave me a bad feeling.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 9:25 a.m.

Comment | DatpKay commented on Weird c/r otf

call

Jan. 13, 2017 | 10:38 p.m.

I don't know if this is a good reason but I would have called a 2,3, 5, J for sure.
I dislike the 8 since its one of the hands I see him cbetting the turn + it strengthens my range also (and he STILL bets)

Jan. 13, 2017 | 10:37 p.m.

JJ-22, AQs-A2s, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, AQo-A9o, K9o+, QTo+, JTo

like this with some of the hands sometimes being 3bet

Jan. 13, 2017 | 10:34 p.m.

We aren't forced to check the turn. You can think about his range, his most likely semi bluffs and then pick turns we just play accordingly to equity distribution and develop a donking range.

Jan. 13, 2017 | 10:09 a.m.

Thought so too, but aren't we too likely to hold AQ here?

Jan. 13, 2017 | 10:06 a.m.

I usually check my entire range here as the preflopagressor since BB usually has the strongest range here (in case he is a thinking regular) and this board hits him hard with VERY little Foldequity for us.

With checking here we can just play our hand a lot better.

BB bets, CO shoves, we can fold.
BB raptrobets, CO calls, we can shove or call
BB checks, CO stabs, we can shove or call
etc. pp.

Checking our entire range here lets us play a lot better imo since we see two players act in a very clutch spot.

If if cbet I would cbet 1/3 of the pot.

Versus the raise you can also just call. It is not a shove or fold spot.

Jan. 13, 2017 | 9:56 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $200.00
SB: $200.86
BB: $302.57 (Hero)
UTG: $229.60
MP: $202.27
CO: $357.83
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with 9 9
UTG raises to $5.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $3.00
Flop ($11.00) 6 4 6
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.54, Hero calls $5.54
Turn ($22.08) 6 4 6 6
Hero checks, UTG bets $17.00, Hero calls $17.00
River ($56.08) 6 4 6 6 8
Hero checks, UTG bets $66.66, Hero folds

Jan. 12, 2017 | 11:28 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $310.23
SB: $201.00
BB: $328.21 (Hero)
UTG: $292.61
MP: $426.75
CO: $69.59
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with 7 5
UTG folds, MP raises to $5.00, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.00
Flop ($11.00) 7 5 T
Hero checks, MP bets $5.54, Hero raises to $19.97, MP calls $14.43
Turn ($50.94) 7 5 T K
Hero bets $42.00, MP calls $42.00
River ($134.94) 7 5 T K 9
Hero bets $88.57, MP folds

Jan. 12, 2017 | 11:19 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $413.18 (Hero)
SB: $259.57
BB: $384.30
UTG: $397.25
MP: $203.00
CO: $283.86
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with 5 6
UTG raises to $6.00, MP folds, CO calls $6.00, Hero raises to $27.00, 2 folds, UTG folds, CO calls $21.00
Flop ($63.00) Q J 3
CO checks, Hero bets $31.33, CO calls $31.33
Turn ($125.66) Q J 3 5
CO checks, Hero checks
River ($125.66) Q J 3 5 2
CO bets $29.00, Hero calls $29.00

Jan. 12, 2017 | 11:08 a.m.

Great topic!

Whether or not you implement it in your game it is a vital practice I find to simply pick a session and all you do is think about how capped (how much nut combos villain "can" have in a certain spot) your villains are in and out of position.

Especially blind defenders can be put under immense pressure usually with Potsize and overbet sizes. For me this was a moment of clarity "back" when I first "internalized" that.
It is however a form of mental gymnasitcs to always be wary of that and to then exercise the discipline to follow through.

That said, in the beginning this will usually boost your winrate a LOT because people just don't know what to make of your "sudden" overbets.
In real life and against your thinking opponents if that becomes a very commom thing for you they will just loosen up or start flatting their value-3-bet range and own you that way.

So either way the real art lies in picking your spots very wisely and somewhat logical.
Not taking too many SD value hands; controlling your frequencies with blockers and picking spots where most likely, given the circumstances, even your thinking villains had no 'chance' to adapt by slowplaying preflop or something.

Jan. 12, 2017 | 10:57 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $95.99
SB: $247.25
BB: $206.23 (Hero)
UTG: $172.02
MP: $207.87
CO: $316.22
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with 7 6
4 folds, SB raises to $6.00, Hero calls $4.00
Flop ($12.00) 6 Q 7
SB bets $4.00, Hero raises to $14.09, SB calls $10.09
Turn ($40.18) 6 Q 7 4
SB checks, Hero bets $28.00, SB calls $28.00
River ($96.18) 6 Q 7 4 9
SB checks, Hero bets $158.14 and is all in, SB calls $158.14

Jan. 12, 2017 | 10:39 a.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: turned 2nd nuts very drawy board 3b pot OOP
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $138.98
SB: $902.83 (Hero)
BB: $210.07
UTG: $288.52
MP: $796.38
CO: $226.25
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is SB with 7 6
UTG raises to $4.00, 3 folds, Hero raises to $18.00, BB folds, UTG calls $14.00
Flop ($38.00) 9 8 2
Hero bets $24.19, UTG calls $24.19
Turn ($86.38) 9 8 2 T
Hero checks, UTG bets $56.87, Hero raises to $860.64 and is all in, UTG folds
Final Pot SB wins $197.37
Rake is $2.75

Jan. 11, 2017 | 12:02 p.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: called 4b OOP | river decision
Blinds: $2.50/$5.00 (6 Players) BN: $546.09
SB: $540.38 (Hero)
BB: $465.04
UTG: $591.35
MP: $5471.51
CO: $580.08
Preflop ($7.50) Hero is SB with A T
3 folds, BN raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $50.00, BB folds, BN raises to $120.00, Hero calls $70.00
Flop ($245.00) 5 5 A
Hero checks, BN bets $75.00, Hero calls $75.00
Turn ($395.00) 5 5 A T
Hero checks, BN checks
River ($395.00) 5 5 A T K
Hero checks, BN bets $351.09 and is all in, Hero calls $345.38 and is all in

Jan. 11, 2017 | 11:49 a.m.

Hey Fedor, thanks for the vid. Unlikely to get an answer by now but:

minute 23.00

J9o defend on AJ2ss - check check
K turn check - he bets

what do you think about a checkraise on the turn?
do you have a checkraise range? how is it/would you construct it?

kind regards

Sept. 14, 2016 | 9 a.m.

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