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DatpKay

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34:20 bottom right 3b ATo vs CO

What are your thoughts/frequencies with ATo here? Is this straight for value? Always? Do you make that dependant on stats? Or is this a semibluff/protection vs squeezes?

I rly like call in this spot and basically only 3bet vs very loose CO openers who who don't fold tight vs 3bets and who 4b tight.

April 1, 2017 | 6:27 p.m.

what?!...
1. why should anyone limp AKo regularly?
2. a limp/reraise with AKo is not a "bluff" in that scenario
3. you can't not do things because of complete outliar scenarios: it is way more likely that peope limped a lot of bad hands or fold

Your Job is to push your equity advantage and you do that by selecting a linear range and making the pot bigger with it.

April 1, 2017 | 5:44 p.m.

  1. Structure your threads better. This is a pain in the ass to read.
  2. You should play/max stacked when you think you have an edge.
  3. Why in the world do you raise A8o in the SB given the action?

A8s is a clear call and CAN be a raise MAYBE when CO and BU limp.
A8o is merely a call and a pretty unhappy one also.

You have the A of clubs, right???

You have 210 left on the flop, after he bets 50 into 65 the Pot is 110.

Pretty easy c/r all in on the flop in my opinion.

But your HUGE main mistake is raising preflop from the worst position with a bad offsuited Ace here because the likelyhood of both folding in a typical 500 live game is close to 0% in my experience.
You should be linearly strong here, talking (77)88+ ATs+, (JTs)KQs+ and make it 25-35 here here in general.

March 26, 2017 | 1:11 p.m.

exactly my thoughts - not too much value to gain with a bet

March 26, 2017 | 1:02 p.m.

Comment | DatpKay commented on SB vs BB spot 200NL

There are almost no hands w o SD value and I doubt people are trying to bluff people off of an A here with SD value tbh...

I like the fold...

On THIS flop with the 9 present I think his range is favored... Make it KQ5 and I agree with your range argument for the flop cbet...

On this flop I feel its borderline... c/c is not really an option - toughish - probably a mix of c/f and bet some amount

turn is never really a c/c I feel so I like the bet.

NH imo even though its weird...

March 22, 2017 | 8:49 p.m.

In general against a 3x open I feel that 22 is really close.. actually.

That said it is a rare spot because most people AREN'T 3xing preflop.

Against a competent regular from UTG vs a 3x openraise I doubt 22 will show a profit.
NOW,... that said given that he is not fullstacked might mean that he is recreational and that could tip even 22 to be a call - UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT HE IS BAD..
which should probably overall tip you towards playing exploitatively and not thinking too much about "this would be my c/c range and should I develop a leading range and if this is my c/r range than... etc. pp." but should just lead you to play it fastish...

I think you underestimate your pool at 200 a little bit and I think the cb turn is fine... You won't c/c much that doesn't beat him..
he beats: A6-A9s
is beat by: A3, A2, A5, A4, 55, 22, 33, 44 A(T)J+, 45

Anyhow, this spot shows what my intuition tells me that defing with 22 is never really great.

The river is trickyish - would be interesting what PIO suggests. I feel any option is fine, blocking, betting anything up to ~1 1/2 PS and also going for checkraises.

March 22, 2017 | 8:40 p.m.

Comment | DatpKay commented on loose aggressive poker

I think that in 2017 you can't use two generalizing and vague terms, glued together, to describe your "style" of poker... "anymore"
I mean - what does it even mean.

You will get further with looking at the game from the perspective of playing "exploitative" or trying to near Game theoretical optimal play with your style.

What does playing loose mean? Opening 35%?
Well, depends on your position right?
Its probably GTOish to open 35% from the CO and it would be an exploitative adjustment from MP if all of the players behind you were preflop nits.

In todays games you might "run over" a ceratin pool for a certain amount of time (given you are new) with playing "too loose" because the majority of the pool will have tighter assumptions for any new given unknown and will therefore tend to overfold for a ceratin amount of time which might turn into a bigger bb/100 for that time...
So with specific reads in certain spots against non-adjusting opponents or general leaks of a ceratin population on a given street: sure, go ahead and be "loose agressive"..
from the SB for example when there is just 1 person left and you know that the population overfolds to delayed cbets on the turn...
or you know that BB folds ~70% vs yoiur opens...
or "somthing like that"
but other than that I think people will just adjust naturally as they get more stats on you.

Poker has definitely become too complicated to generally say something like "you should play LAG"

March 22, 2017 | 8:25 p.m.

March 22, 2017 | 8:12 p.m.

You think that either of them folds AK to 80$?

March 21, 2017 | 12:13 p.m.

playing the hand perfectly

March 21, 2017 | 12:09 p.m.

250$ (and also do it with your bluffs)

March 12, 2017 | 10:57 a.m.

I missed the "from MP on a fullring table" part... sry! :)

March 8, 2017 | 9:42 a.m.

Don't you 3bet JJ, TT and also call his 4b?

March 7, 2017 | 10:23 a.m.

No offense ecomommy but your threads are so random and just blankly lazylily created...
like, wtf...

post the most random "wtf" line, randomly, don't provide any information and then just be like
"is this good?"
...
U can do A LOT better than this and you know this

March 4, 2017 | 12:55 p.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: Combodraw MW vs unkown - is this spew?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $200.00
SB: $571.07
BB: $829.66
UTG: $254.62 (Hero)
MP: $251.99
CO: $225.43
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 9 K
Hero raises to $5.00, MP calls $5.00, 2 folds, SB calls $4.00, BB folds
Flop ($17.00) T 4 J
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $10.00, SB calls $10.00, Hero raises to $34.00, MP calls $24.00, SB folds
Turn ($95.00) T 4 J 4
Hero bets $47.97, MP calls $47.97
River ($190.94) T 4 J 4 Q
Hero bets $167.65 and is all in, MP

Feb. 27, 2017 | 10:47 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $277.12 (Hero)
SB: $230.50
BB: $200.00
UTG: $308.42
MP: $552.61
CO: $146.91
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with Q J
3 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, SB raises to $16.00, BB folds, Hero calls $11.50
Flop ($34.00) T 9 K
SB bets $16.00, Hero calls $16.00
Turn ($66.00) T 9 K 9
SB bets $32.00, Hero calls $32.00
River ($130.00) T 9 K 9 4
SB checks, Hero
...166$ effective stacks

Feb. 27, 2017 | 10:38 a.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: turned nuts - never raise though, right?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $853.34
SB: $200.00
BB: $425.80
UTG: $200.00
MP: $286.19
CO: $256.08 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with K T
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, BN folds, SB calls $4.00, BB folds
Flop ($12.00) A 4 2
SB checks, Hero bets $3.76, SB raises to $16.00, Hero calls $12.24
Turn ($44.00) A 4 2 J
SB bets $20.90, Hero calls $20.90
River ($85.80) A 4 2 J J
SB bets $74.00, Hero calls $74.00

Feb. 27, 2017 | 10:34 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $836.10
SB: $313.27
BB: $590.88
UTG: $227.54
MP: $246.88
CO: $253.09 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with Q K
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, BN raises to $15.36, 2 folds, Hero calls $10.36
Flop ($33.72) 6 J K
Hero checks, BN bets $10.89, Hero calls $10.89
Turn ($55.50) 6 J K 4
Hero checks, BN bets $41.87, Hero calls $41.87
River ($139.24) 6 J K 4 3
Hero checks, BN bets $767.98 and is all in, Hero
... has 184$ left

Feb. 27, 2017 | 10:23 a.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: typical spot 3b Pot OOP turn flushing
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $1380.73
SB: $281.07 (Hero)
BB: $200.00
UTG: $203.00
MP: $829.66
CO: $202.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is SB with Q A
3 folds, BN raises to $5.00, Hero raises to $20.00, BB folds, BN calls $15.00
Flop ($42.00) Q T 6
Hero bets $20.75, BN calls $20.75
Turn ($83.50) Q T 6 2
Hero checks, BN checks
River ($83.50) Q T 6 2 A
Hero checks, BN bets $80.00, Hero calls $80.00

Feb. 27, 2017 | 9:53 a.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: RARE SPOT 3way - should we bluff shove?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $313.33 (Hero)
SB: $342.20
BB: $253.30
UTG: $361.98
MP: $232.25
CO: $206.95
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with T 8
UTG raises to $6.00, MP calls $6.00, CO folds, Hero calls $6.00, SB folds, BB calls $4.00
Flop ($25.00) 9 K 7
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $12.35, BB calls $12.35, UTG folds, MP calls $12.35
Turn ($62.05) 9 K 7 3
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $59.30, BB calls $59.30, MP calls $59.30
River ($239.95) 9 K 7 3 4
BB checks, MP checks, Hero

Feb. 24, 2017 | 10:26 a.m.

So he calls 120$ to win 410$ so he needs 29,2% Equity vs my shoving range

Shoving nuts, our only Qhi flush combo and every blocker:

Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 65.00% 65.00% 0.00% { Td5d }
MP3 35.00% 35.00% 0.00% { AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Qd9d, Ad8d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKc, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AdJh, AdJc, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc }

Here it almost breaks even: all AA combos w the nutblocker

Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 30.00% 30.00% 0.00% { Td5d }
MP3 70.00% 70.00% 0.00% { AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Qd9d, Ad8d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d }

So I can choose 2 combos :(

Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 22.22% 22.22% 0.00% { Td5d }
MP3 77.78% 77.78% 0.00% { AdAs, AdAc, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Qd9d, Ad8d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d }
..
Thats pretty complicated to do in game IMO...
Soo maybe the lesson here is that with this SPR in these spots we should -never bluffshove
-definitely shove all 2nd nuts
-and rather bluffcatch more liberally when we unblock the Ad?

Because I don't see myself doing a good job choosing exactly 2 combos and not overbluffing this spot.

Feb. 23, 2017 | 10:10 a.m.

TOT 4bet Range is 3,6
WTS 24
W$SD 47,4

over 3,2k hands so far

Feb. 23, 2017 | 9:43 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $381.07 (Hero)
SB: $317.58
BB: $227.15
UTG: $205.04
MP: $281.37
CO: $202.16
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BN with 6 8
2 folds, CO raises to $4.68, Hero raises to $17.04, 2 folds, CO calls $12.36
Flop ($37.08) K 9 Q
CO checks, Hero bets $11.63, CO calls $11.63
Turn ($60.34) K 9 Q 5
CO checks, Hero bets $40.89, CO calls $40.89
River ($142.12) K 9 Q 5 A
CO checks, Hero bets $139.37

Feb. 22, 2017 | 5:17 p.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: stone cold nuts riversizing...
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $210.13
SB: $232.52
BB: $543.94 (Hero)
UTG: $959.98
MP: $373.58
CO: $220.13
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with T T
UTG raises to $5.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $3.00
Flop ($11.00) 5 A T
Hero checks, UTG bets $7.00, Hero raises to $24.00, UTG calls $17.00
Turn ($59.00) 5 A T 6
Hero bets $48.00, UTG calls $48.00
River ($155.00) 5 A T 6 T
Hero

Feb. 22, 2017 | 5:09 p.m.

Ya, thats why I am playing 1/2 probably, haha (now I'm depressed)...

Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 44.44% 44.44% 0.00% { 44, QdTd, Td9d, Ad8d, Qd8d, Td8d, 9d8d, Qd7d, Td7d, Ad6d, Td5d, Ad4d, 5d4d, Ad3d, Ad2d }
MP3 55.56% 55.56% 0.00% { QdTd }

So Q high flush WOULD be the cutoff on the river; - I obviously am unsure about wether or not he would bet 44 on the turn or on the river or if he would rather throw in checks there...
which.... immediately shifts our equity to 33% and would only make A high flushes viable

IF he really checkraises every Flushdraw then we can continue shoving QdTd

Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 40.00% 40.00% 0.00% { QdTd, Td9d, Ad8d, Qd8d, Td8d, 9d8d, Qd7d, Td7d, 8d7d, Ad6d, Td5d, 7d5d, Ad4d, 5d4d, Ad3d, 4d3d, Ad2d, 3d2d }
MP3 60.00% 60.00% 0.00% { QdTd }

Shoving every nutblocker is not an option:
Board: KdJd4h6d7c
Equity Win Tie
CO 58.82% 58.82% 0.00% { Td5d }
BU 41.18% 41.18% 0.00% { AdAh, AdAs, AdAc, AdQd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, Ad9c }

I he does not call 44, T high flushes are exactly 50%

Feb. 22, 2017 | 5:01 p.m.

Hand History | DatpKay posted in NLHE: rivering the nuts vs an overbet turn OOP
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $206.00
SB: $490.92
BB: $285.08 (Hero)
UTG: $209.71
MP: $627.07
CO: $203.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is BB with 2 A
UTG folds, MP raises to $4.36, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.36
Flop ($9.72) 6 3 A
Hero checks, MP bets $6.28, Hero calls $6.28
Turn ($22.28) 6 3 A Q
Hero checks, MP bets $42.00, Hero calls $42.00
River ($106.28) 6 3 A Q 7
Hero
232$ effective stacksize

Feb. 22, 2017 | 4:22 p.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $449.48
SB: $799.58
BB: $755.39
UTG: $200.00
MP: $278.96
CO: $206.00 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, 2 folds, BB calls $3.00
Flop ($11.00) J K 4
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB raises to $9.80, Hero calls $7.80
Turn ($30.60) J K 4 6
BB bets $18.60, Hero calls $18.60
River ($67.80) J K 4 6 7
BB bets $52.04, Hero raises to $172.60 and is all in, BB calls $120.56

Feb. 22, 2017 | 4:10 p.m.

Thanks for counting the combos for me <<... ^^
These were my not-so-well-formulated-instinctual thoughts and check behind I did.

Feb. 21, 2017 | 10:08 a.m.

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $318.92
SB: $268.18
BB: $198.25
UTG: $232.01
MP: $361.98 (Hero)
CO: $200.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is MP with Q A
UTG raises to $5.00, Hero calls $5.00, 2 folds, SB calls $4.00, BB folds
Flop ($17.00) Q A 3
SB checks, UTG bets $10.00, Hero calls $10.00, SB folds
Turn ($37.00) Q A 3 9
UTG bets $52.73, Hero calls $52.73
River ($142.46) Q A 3 9 4
UTG checks, Hero

Feb. 19, 2017 | 10:14 a.m.

Totally depends on the player and most importantly on the BB

You can limp all of the hands or raise, none of them is a fold

Feb. 17, 2017 | 6:54 p.m.

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