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DegreesOfFreedom

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Villain is a recreational player. Pretty passive, does some limping, when he opens from HJ it's pretty solid, something like KJo+, 88+. So essentially we're dominated by his broadway range and behind his PPs as well. We're like 36% vs 88+,AJs+,KJs+,AJo+,KJo+. Yes, he should not open this tight in HJ but he's a recreational player and does not know any better.

So... should we just play this as if he was UTG and just chuck our KJs? We're 200BB deep btw. Or it's still a 3bet because we have some fold equity?

Jan. 8, 2017 | 10:28 p.m.

Dec. 9, 2016 | 9:31 p.m.

My thinking exactly. I checked back flop, did not improve whatsoever, he fired turn and I folded.

Dec. 8, 2016 | 9:23 p.m.

$1100 eff. $10 straddle UTG. Good, solid TAG grinder opens to $30 in MP2, I 3b OTB to $100 with AcKc, only he calls.

Flop: Jh8s7d Pot $217 He checks.

What's our plan for all streets and why?

Dec. 6, 2016 | 9 p.m.

$1000 eff. V is a young grinder, seems pretty standard, haven't seen him make any mistakes. V opens CO to $15, fishy $150 shortstack calls OTB, I call in BB with Q♥ 9♥

Flop: J♥ 5♥ 2♦ Pot $47 I check, CO bets $25, button calls, I CR to $75, V asks how much I have and calls, button folds

Turn: 4♥ Pot $222 I bet $200, V goes all-in

  1. Do you fold and why/why not?
  2. Would you fold K-high flush here?

June 30, 2016 | 8:18 p.m.

There's no need to balance at this stake live. I used to bet around what you suggest (pot). Just getting all folds too often. Usually one guy tanks a little and everyone else folds very quickly. So I started thinking maybe it's too big and looks too strong.

June 30, 2016 | 7:49 p.m.

Why don't you go troll somewhere else? Reported to admins.

June 30, 2016 | 7:45 p.m.

Results: I folded, asked him to show a bluff and he showed A♣

June 30, 2016 | 7:21 p.m.

Even better players open bigger live.

June 30, 2016 | 7:21 p.m.

$1500 eff. Villain is an aggro Italian guy. Saw him 5-bet light (after 3-betting the button and getting 4-bet) to $600 and show a "5" 10 mins ago. Sick puppy. Not an idiot by any measure. Has a fold button.

V opens to $25 UTG, I call OTB with 9 :h: 9 :d:

Flop: 6 :c: 2 :d: 4 :c: Pot $57 He bets $40, I call.

Turn: J :s: Pot $137 He bets $105, I call.

River: 3 :h: Pot $347 He bets $230.

I called quickly both times. He took extra time OTR compared to flop & turn.

  1. Should we call? Why/why not?

  2. What do you think of raising and repping 75s? Too narrow?

June 29, 2016 | 11:03 a.m.

This is kind of a common situation. Basically, it's heavily multi-way, very wet board, we're OOP, have a set, concerned about things checking thru and we lead. Here's a specific example but this is a common scenario.

We have 7♦ 7♥ in BB. MP1 raises to $15, 3 calls before it gets to us, we call.

Flop: 8♠ 3♠ 7♣ Pot $75 SB checks, it's on us and we want to bet.

How much and why?

June 29, 2016 | 1:17 a.m.

$1000 eff. I open A♣ 8♣ in CO to $15, blinds call.

Flop: A♥ 8♠ 3♠ Pot $45 Checks to me, I bet $40, SB folds, good solid grinder makes it $145 in BB.

Let's suppose I have a read that's on a flush draw. Should we just flat and try to GII OTT or we should 3b flop now?

June 27, 2016 | 11:25 p.m.

$1000 eff. Fish limps MP2, V opens CO to $15, I call in BB with J♥ T♠ , limper calls.

Flop: Q♦ J♣ 8♠ Pot $47 Checks to CO who bets $20, I checkraise to $60 with middle pair + gutter.

V is a tighter, middle-aged guy.

Was this a good CR and why/why not?

June 27, 2016 | 11:24 p.m.

This is more of a theoretical discussion as it's a pretty common situation. You open QQ, you get 3-bet. Let's say you're deep enough to comfortably flat and you flat. Flop comes low. 3-bettor c-bets................ Now what? :)

Well, the "what" depends on 3-bettors range. For simplicity's sake let's assume it's all value. If it doesn't include AK then this is a no brainer fold.. yes to one flop bet. If it does, then things get a little more dicey. Not only does AK have to be in the 3b range but V also has to cbet when he whiffs. If these two conditions are satisfied then the flop becomes a call.

Thoughts?

June 27, 2016 | 11:23 p.m.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.210% 59.31% 00.90% 15267 231.00 { QsTs }
Hand 1: 39.790% 38.89% 00.90% 10011 231.00 { QQ+, TT-99, AhKh, AQs, AQo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.535% 53.70% 00.84% 15948 249.00 { QsTs }
Hand 1: 45.465% 44.63% 00.84% 13254 249.00 { QQ+, TT-99, AhKh, AQs, KJs, AQo }

As we can see adding KJs to his range changes everything. I still think it's a tough spot.

June 27, 2016 | 9:33 p.m.

He has no bluffs except possibly AKhh which is but 1 combo. This is live poker.

June 27, 2016 | 9:33 p.m.

June 27, 2016 | 9:12 p.m.

Limping along with Axo is bleeding money as well. If you don't iso the only other option is fold.

June 26, 2016 | 1:25 p.m.

Results:

I bet $350, BB shoves for $480 total, HJ tank calls, I call.

River: J♣ Pot $2120 HJ checks, I shove for HJ's remaining $300, HJ folds. BB shows 7♣ 4♠

Was betting $350 OTT as opposed to shoving a mistake?

June 25, 2016 | 12:35 p.m.

So I've been doing this stuff. Let's say 2 limpers and I get something like A3o OTB. Let's say they limp for $5 each, I make it $30 and both call. Then I whiff the flop and just check back and then basically give up.

Is this even profitable? It doesn't seem right for them to limp but is it right for me to iso with A-rag? I've been doing much better with this against 1 limper but with 2 it hasn't been working out.

What do you think?

June 24, 2016 | 8:19 a.m.

This accusation is completely baseless and uncalled for. You don't know what work I do or don't do. I think about every hand I post and form my own opinion on it. That doesn't mean I don't want to hear others' perspectives or sometimes just confirm my own opinion.

Like I said, you've provided helpful replies on my threads in the past and for that I've been nothing but grateful. But recently you posted replies that provide absolutely no value to anyone - only negativity and condescension. The change in your attitude most likely has something to do with your personal life that you need to deal with. For whatever reason you now need to feel superior to strangers on the Internet. That's sad and it has absolutely nothing to do with me.

In any case, please never post in my threads again. Thanks.

June 23, 2016 | 5:11 p.m.

V1, HJ: Fishy 50ish guy. Stations too much pre and post. Bluffs in wrong spots post flop. $1000

V2, BB: Younger late 20s guy. Limp/calls pre a lot. Don't have much of a postflop read on him as he doesn't show down a lot. Have seen him call two streets and fold river multiple times. $700

I cover. HJ opens to $20, I call OTB with 9♠ 9♣ , SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 9♦ 5♦ 3♠ Pot $80 BB checks, HJ bets $50, I make it $200, SB folds, BB tank calls, HJ calls.

Turn: 6♣ Pot $680 Checks to me.

What should the rest of our line look like and why?

June 23, 2016 | 4:23 a.m.

Honestly dude, you've been quite helpful with your feedback in the past and I appreciate that. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about your latest responses in my threads.

June 22, 2016 | 5:27 p.m.

Cool, what's your rough UTG range here?

June 22, 2016 | 5:25 p.m.

June 22, 2016 | 5:24 p.m.

It was at Wynn, LV. Could you please answer my actual question now?

June 22, 2016 | 5:17 p.m.

CORRECTION: Flop was J♥ T♦ 4♣ We only have one pair on the river. Sorry.

June 22, 2016 | 4:51 p.m.

SB has $1000, MP2 has $400 and I cover. MP2 limps, I raise button with A♠ 3♠ to $20, SB calls.

Flop: J♥ T♦ 3♣ Pot $65 Checks around.

Turn: 6♠ Pot $65 Checks around.

River: A♣ Pot $65 SB checks, MP2 bets $50.

MP2 is fishy 55-60ish guy. Seen him try to bluff before a couple of times. Not sure if he's bluffing here. I doubt he's betting for thin value (like a J) but I think he may be bluffing.

Call/fold and why?

June 22, 2016 | 5:10 a.m.

What do you mean?

June 21, 2016 | 9:38 p.m.

I have a pretty strong read that he doesn't raise draws or bluffraise - he just overplays value hands in a very atrocious fashion.

June 21, 2016 | 9:35 p.m.

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