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Check/call seems reasonable if villain is turning enough SD-value into a bluff. I have to guess that he has to bluff a decent amount of Jx here for us to c/c.

And we would have a reasonable bluffcatcher by any means...
So I dunno.

Is there merit in check/calling? NL10 has gotten a lot more crazy than people give it credit for.

Sept. 18, 2017 | 4:12 a.m.

Agree. It's not like we're beat that often on the River but villain definitely won't call with worse here. and he can definitely have AJ and even AT with BDFD.
c/f is the play.

Sept. 11, 2017 | 4:36 p.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on River decision

I think I'm folding river without reads because he probably has KJ

Sept. 11, 2017 | 4:27 p.m.

Post | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: Improving my pokerface

Hi guys long time no see,

I realized that I have a real bad pokerface and thus I would like to if there is anything I can do against it besides practice.
Basically I'm smiling when I have a big hand and it's so obvious that even a tourist would realize that I'm strong there etc. since I'm not smiling when I'm weak.

Are there any professionals that I can visit that will help me on this issue? Any medicine I can take that will maybe reduce the intensity of my emotions?

Glad to hear what you guys think since I would do everything to have a good pokerface. Well actually the only thing that I wouldn't to is take Botox.


Sept. 11, 2017 | 4:01 p.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on NL200z Gud call?


March 24, 2017 | 7:56 p.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on NL200z Gud call?

JJ+ should be 5bet in these positions^^

and him trapping AA-QQ shouldn't even be a consideration without a read, because it's just much better EV wise and strategy wise to 5bet those hands.

I could see people calling the 4b with TT-88 though and some KQ QJs JTs type hands.

March 10, 2017 | 7:30 a.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on NL200z Gud call?

Appearantly my equity drastically increses from 20% (absolutely no air in his range) to 40% (KJ added in his range)....

But I gave him stuff like J9s and Q9s in the range where I had 20% equity which should be flats but since a onetabler I need to give him some 9x but at the same time a bit of randomness...

March 10, 2017 | 6:15 a.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on NL200z Gud call?

I think we established a volatile player profile here don't you think? 1 Tabling Zoom players are more likely to be fish thus more likely to spazz out.

March 10, 2017 | 12:31 a.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: NL200z Gud call?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $253.33
SB: $214.04 (Hero)
BB: $343.52
UTG: $200.00
MP: $510.12
CO: $925.44
1 tabling goldstar
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is SB with K A
4 folds, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $18.00, Hero raises to $48.00, BB calls $30.00
24bb is my standard 4bet sizing oop. Can I gain value if I make it 23,5bb or 24,5bb?
Flop ($96.00) 9 9 4
Hero bets $31.00, BB raises to $295.52 and is all in, Hero calls $135.04 and is all in
1/3 pot is my standard cbet size on this dry flop. Good? Do I have enough equity to call it off?
Turn ($557.56) 9 9 4 Q
River ($557.56) 9 9 4 Q 2

March 9, 2017 | 9 p.m.

I'm always down for some props :D, we can take Phil Ivey as escrow.

March 9, 2017 | 7:44 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in PLO: PLO200z should I bluffcatch here?
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $207.25
SB: $193.00
BB: $100.05
UTG: $225.29 (Hero)
MP: $383.25
CO: $200.00
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is UTG with K K 4 5
Hero raises to $7.00, 3 folds, SB calls $6.00, BB calls $5.00
Flop ($21.00) 2 7 3
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks
Turn ($21.00) 2 7 3 8
SB checks, BB bets $19.95, Hero calls $19.95, SB folds
River ($60.90) 2 7 3 8 3
BB bets $58.15, Hero folds
Final Pot BB wins $58.15
Rake is $2.75

March 8, 2017 | 8:57 p.m.

And if you consider the rakeback you need to consider the deal.

March 7, 2017 | 11:22 a.m.

ya I'm thinking like 200z until I lose 1k and then PLO100 until maybe 5k$ and then drop down to 50z. Just wanted a confirmation that my bankrollmanagment is not too aggressive here because I heard of people that recommend 200-300 buyins for PLO.

And I'm not 100% confident that I can beat PLO200 ^.^ ... haha maybe I should better play PLO100?

March 7, 2017 | 9:17 a.m.

what limit can you recommend me with a 10k$ bankroll? :)
I want to dodge the high rake because ya like you say rake is a killer.

March 7, 2017 | 9:04 a.m.

wait are the micros still beatable? your starting with 100$ was from 3 years ago

March 7, 2017 | 8:11 a.m.

haha I also block 75dd just in case :p ...

March 7, 2017 | 8:09 a.m.

goodly played?

March 7, 2017 | 8:06 a.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in PLO: Was this a good bluff? PLO 200z
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $450.67
SB: $267.77
BB: $269.86
UTG: $217.40 (Hero)
MP: $83.00
CO: $313.30
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 7 A J 9
Hero raises to $7.00, 4 folds, BB calls $5.00
Flop ($15.00) 6 8 9
BB checks, Hero bets $10.00, BB calls $10.00
Turn ($35.00) 6 8 9 4
BB bets $27.93, Hero calls $27.93
River ($90.86) 6 8 9 4 4
BB bets $32.03, Hero raises to $172.47 and is all in

March 7, 2017 | 8:05 a.m.

We need to defend our checkingrange on this Turn.

KQs is a good hand to check/call, agree. However betting it at a small frequency probably gains EV because it's good for our range if we can make the nuts on a King river.

AA is also good to trap on the Turn because we block the hand that is most likely to pay us off (AQ) and vs hands like QJ or even KQ we only have 2 streets anyway so might just as well go bet/check/bet. Also if we check villain is still going to bet AQ so we are not going to lose value (could make sense to even check/raise AA sometimes mixed in with some weak FDs that didn't want to bet turn).

On the river you have a bluffcatcher but your hand is underrepped, you're getting good odds and he doesn't have you beat often (some AQ combos (but he is obv gonna bet AQ often OTT), QJs, JJ). So this is a mandatory call.

However in the end the EV of the call is mainly determined by his bluffing frequency. If he doesn't bluff often enough then this is a losing call. I can imagine lots of players are going to bet their flushdraws OTT to your check meaning that they will end up with few busted flushdraws, but if he was passive he can still have plenty of busted flushdraws here. But then again passive players don't bluff enough.

But nonetheless, the check/call on the river is never terrible so you're not doing much wrong if you always check/call river (based on my calculations it's the GTO way to play here).

So just call and if you see that villain deviates too hard from the equilibrium (meaning he isn't bluffing enough OTR) you should always fold this hand (well maybe not always because this will teach him to change his ways).

March 4, 2017 | 2:15 a.m.

March 2, 2017 | 1:24 p.m.

I think I like betting 2$ on the flop and shoving any turn.

As played your betsizing on the turn is a bit weird but it shouldn't make that much of a difference. River you should just bet yourself since it's a negative freeroll if you check/call.

But as played it's really ugly on the river. I don't think we are ahead often on the river after he bets since there are no draws on the flop and QQ and JJ probably fold turn or checkbehind river if they called turn.

But there is a good chance that he plays AK or maybe even KQs this way so I think just because of splitting possibilities we have to call river.

March 2, 2017 | 1:23 a.m.

Comment | Pokerlogical commented on uPLO Study Group

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March 2, 2017 | 1:12 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (9 Players) BN: $33.88
SB: $36.71
BB: $25.00
UTG: $25.00 (Hero)
UTG+1: $49.67
MP: $25.00
MP+1: $25.35
MP+2: $45.73
CO: $39.49
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds
Flop ($1.85) 3 Q 2
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20
Turn ($4.25) 3 Q 2 6
Hero bets $2.58, CO raises to $7.75, Hero raises to $23.05 and is all in

March 1, 2017 | 5:29 p.m.

Hand History | Pokerlogical posted in NLHE: clueless vs cold4bet w/ AK NL25Zoom
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (9 Players) BN: $29.61 (Hero)
SB: $25.00
BB: $21.75
UTG: $27.09
UTG+1: $25.00
MP: $27.70
MP+1: $27.89
MP+2: $25.92
CO: $85.70
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BN with K A
3 folds, MP+1 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB raises to $5.50, BB folds, MP+1 folds, Hero

Feb. 28, 2017 | 2:06 a.m.

ya I'm getting the expression that villains always have it when they are repping narrow^^.

Feb. 27, 2017 | 8:20 p.m.

Humm I think ATo is too lose for squeeze because it doesn't play well postflop. Just a call pre imo.

As played KQx should connect pretty well with his strong range so I don't feel good with betting. Feels like we need at least JT or something like AJ with J of spades to bet flop.

Feb. 27, 2017 | 6:46 p.m.

Nick Howard brought that up initially and you know him Dog, I have seen you in his streams. He said this several times.

Feb. 27, 2017 | 6:05 p.m.

AK will mostly bet Turn but if he has KQs, KJs or QQ JJ people would very often checkbehind Turn and bet River with QQ or better so I wouldn't say that we are always good. Of course we are sometimes good on the river.

Feb. 27, 2017 | 5:40 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (9 Players) BN: $90.48
SB: $42.22
BB: $26.70 (Hero)
UTG: $27.82
UTG+1: $21.83
MP: $34.36
MP+1: $34.50
MP+2: $24.42
CO: $25.00
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, MP+1 raises to $0.55, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, MP+1 calls $1.45
Flop ($4.10) 4 A T
Hero bets $1.50, MP+1 calls $1.50
Turn ($7.10) 4 A T J
Hero checks, MP+1 bets $2.78, Hero folds
Final Pot MP+1 wins $6.78
Rake is $0.32

Feb. 27, 2017 | 4:48 p.m.

Just watch Nick Howard he is a pro

Feb. 27, 2017 | 1:52 p.m.

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