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Tiggles

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Hand History | Tiggles posted in PLO: River play...
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $13.13
SB: $25.61 (Hero)
BB: $10.01
UTG: $4.10
MP: $21.96
CO: $11.74
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q J K Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, BN folds, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25
Flop ($1.05) 8 T 9
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $1.01, Hero calls $1.01, BB folds
Turn ($3.07) 8 T 9 J
Hero checks, CO checks
River ($3.07) 8 T 9 J 7
Hero bets $2.00, CO raises to $8.94, Hero folds
Final Pot CO wins $6.77
Rake is $0.30

July 31, 2018 | 9:15 p.m.

Comment | Tiggles commented on River Decision.

With the caveat that I'm not an especially good player, and haven't crunched any numbers, I'll give a thought.

Personally I would say yes it probably is a bad move, albeit an understandable one. You only lose to three combinations of diamond hands: QJ, J7 and 76 and I can coem up with more hands that I think would consider playing aggressively that don't beat you.

Any queen high flush may well go with it, as it makes it very hard for you to have nutted diamonds (9/13 diamonds would be in play between the two of you and the board). Likewise a few smaller diamond hands may well go with it as well.

If the villain has a diamond in their hand then certainly at lower stakes there is a decent chance they just don't think you have a flush and are treating a nut straight as the stone nuts. A hand like AQJT with a diamond may feel it can push you off a hand containing small diamonds as well, because it would be more unlikely that you have a nutted flush..

There's also a small chance it's a stone bluff.

From that I think it is a call, particularly as the first time you get genuinely aggressive is the river raise. I think it sucks, but is one that should be made. Although I'll happily bow to players with better knowledge of the game than I.

July 30, 2018 | 4:56 p.m.

Comment | Tiggles commented on Did I do a stupid?

Thanks very much for this. Brings up some things I'd not really considered much, and definitely not at the time. In particular the 100% checking range stuff. I know at the time I definitely didn't think about the fact that my bet would normally only be folding out hands I beat, whilst the majority of calls are hands that have me in trouble.

Thanks again for taking the time to go through this. I'm generally happy to risk exposing myself as an idiot player on the hope that it improves me.

July 30, 2018 | 4:27 p.m.

Hand History | Tiggles posted in PLO: Did I do a stupid?
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $10.47
SB: $30.96
BB: $34.31 (Hero)
UTG: $6.90
MP: $10.78
CO: $42.77
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is BB with A A 3 8
UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, CO raises to $1.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, UTG folds, CO calls $2.45
Seems a fairly clear 4-bet, albeit one that narrows my range to basically AAxx. I could have called, but I'm pretty deep with the player in the CO and I've got aces with a suit and want to maximise my chances to win a big pot with them. This is probably towards the bottom of my 4-bet range though, ideally it would obviously be better to have two broadways or two lower cards (and two suits). When the call I assume they have some sort of non-ace big pair or a strong rundown.
Flop ($7.35) 7 5 4
Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50
Seems a pretty clear continuation. Still got my aces, and I block all flopped straights/straight draws (23, 36, 68, 89), most of which I struggle to see my opponent having in their 4-bet calling range pre.
Turn ($18.35) 7 5 4 A
Hero bets $7.50, CO calls $7.50
Feels like a pretty gin card here. Sure one of the draws gets there, but I block it. It also gives me top set in case the villain managed to bink sevens. I think I bet way too small. My thought process was trying to size a river shove on pretty much any river, but in retrospect I think I should have just gone 60-75% pot.
River ($33.35) 7 5 4 A 3
Hero bets $17.81 and is all in, CO calls $17.81
Annoying that back-door clubs got there, but I'm not overly worried by it as there aren't many hands I can think of that would 3-bet and calla 4-bet pre, then call flop with clubs. At least that make sense. To me the only thing that makes sense at the moment is a flopped set or really stubborn two pair, so I stick it in.
Final Pot BB lost and shows three of a kind, Aces.
CO wins and shows a straight, Ace to Five.
CO wins $67.47
Rake is $1.50
I lost. Which sucked, but I see their hand is Qh4h8s2s which is trash. They hanve two suits but largely unconnected pre that 3-bets and calls a large 4-bet. They call a c-bet with a pair of 4s, backdoor spades and a couple of backdoor straights. the ace on the turn kills the spades but gives them a gutshot which they hit on the river.

July 26, 2018 | 6:50 p.m.

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