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2 points

Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $7.84 (Hero)
SB: $5.46
BB: $7.60
UTG: $8.57
MP: $5.74
CO: $4.14
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BN with 5 A 8 T
UTG raises to $0.17, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.17, 2 folds
Flop ($0.41) 8 2 T
UTG bets $0.39, Hero calls $0.39
In this flop I decided ony to call even with (what i assume) a range vs range advantage and with top 2 pair. My reasoning for this is that we are considerably deep, and there are a lot of turns that hurt my actual hand (althought they improve my range). I'd like to know if my reasoning is flawed in some way, and if raising is the best play. If so why?
Turn ($1.19) 8 2 T A
UTG bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.54, UTG calls $2.74
As played, I'm really confused if my raise OTT (and the sizing) were the best play. Sure I have improved my 2pair, and will be called by draws. But i'll be playing a guessing game OTR. One thing that favor this raise is that villains is passive and will be easier to me to fold in a lot of bad rivers vs leads

Jan. 4, 2017 | 4:43 p.m.

Easy fold. No info on villain, 50 bbs deep, in micros you have so much options to get your money in in, that I believe that going for spots like these is a huge, huge mistake.

April 20, 2016 | 10:56 a.m.

Comment | ZenOnWheels commented on ,

I Play lower, (PLO2z when in my C game) Mostly PLO5z now (still have more volume @PLO2z) and will start shotting @PLO10z soon. If you don't mind talking to a lower stakes player I would love to take part.

April 1, 2016 | 2:19 a.m.

Group still on?

April 1, 2016 | 1:59 a.m.

As played (3bet) I would Cbet about 0,6-7PS, because I can get additional Eq on hearts and diamonds turns and barrel.

Dec. 29, 2015 | 2:49 a.m.

Agree with Gamblling Poet about postflop line.

Regarding the 3bet, I wouldn't do it. Not because the hand has polarized Eq distribuition (that's the kind of hand I prefer OOP), but because stacks are so deep that it won't do much for you. Against described villain, we can argue about 3betting in a regular 100bb deep situation to try to push a Eq edge, an deny him positional advantage.

But here, you are just inflating the pot in a situation where you are most likely to fold in future streets (being OOP, with a polarized hand and a a SPR of 10)

Ps.: Being a 54/28/14 who OR BTN 68% isn't a guarentee that he is fish IMO, specially considering samplezises issues and the fact that the table is deep, where you can get away playing a wider hange IP.

Dec. 27, 2015 | 1:23 p.m.

Hi Gambling Poet.

Please keep in mind that I'm new to PLO as well, i'm commenting most to get the discussion going and to see if more experienced players will point flaws in my thinking.

At first thought, I would be inclined to call because if villain is only 3betting AA, we have about 37% Eq (which makes the call BE) + Position.

However, as i put more thought in it, I think it's a fold too. If villain has a hand that will barrel turn (say OP + FD, giving that we block many SD), we are in a awful spot, because we can't use our position to steal the pot if the turn is a blank and we have about 25% Eq.

As you develop more reads (for example: villain 3bet big pairs, cbet and then give up on turn), you can call in this spot and evaluate on turn.

Dec. 26, 2015 | 1:36 p.m.

Hi Fabse. Thanks For the reply,
I feared 5betting because I felt that having the Q gap was somewhat high and I would lose a little in equity distribuition but I guess my reasoning was flawed.

OTF I undertand your point of just pushing due to SPR. I feared stacking off hugely dominated because of his sizing (I assuime people tend to bet small when their are folding, or when they are protected on future streets, but I may be assuming wrongly as I don't have pratical experience in PLO)

Nov. 4, 2015 | 12:15 p.m.

Hi Disharmonist,
Thanks for the reply. What are your reasoning for shoving flop?

Nov. 4, 2015 | 11:38 a.m.

Comment | ZenOnWheels commented on PLO5 AQ96

Hi lospengin.

Although I like calling suited Aces in micro PLO, I would fold this PF, the 6c in too much of dangler to me. I dont think this hand will flop many nut hands (which is what you want playing OOP)

As played, I would check/call river with de 3rd nut for a bet, and even consider folding against huge action.

Nov. 3, 2015 | 12:42 p.m.

Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (4 Players) CO: Weslly0420: $3.52
BN: anikin72: $2.23
SB: ZenOnWheels: $4.20 (Hero)
BB: peppinooo: $1.49
I didn't have many reads on villain, but I labeled him as a maniac because he opened 60% in 16 hands, and 4betted 3 of 4 times,(4th time he called)
Preflop ($0.03) ZenOnWheels is SB with K T J A
Weslly0420 raises to $0.07, anikin72 folds, ZenOnWheels raises to $0.23, peppinooo folds, Weslly0420 raises to $0.71, ZenOnWheels calls $0.48
PF i guess is ok to 3bet this deep expecting a 4bet
Flop ($1.44) 2 Q J
ZenOnWheels checks, Weslly0420 bets $0.50, ZenOnWheels calls $0.50
Flop I just call to try to improve my equity to shove turn, I didn't fell raising would accomplish much
Turn ($2.44) 2 Q J 6
ZenOnWheels bets $2.36, Weslly0420 calls $2.31 and is all in
I turn my 2nd nut FD and shove expecting to be called by 2pais, set of Qs, straights draws and diamont FDs (I didn't account much for JJ as I block those.

I could check/call, but my reasoning for shoving is that I have a lot of equity vs villain range, so if he cbeted im calling anyway and I could lose action if he checks back and I river my flush.
River ($7.11) 2 Q J 6 8
Final Pot ZenOnWheels lost and shows a pair of Jacks.
Weslly0420 wins and shows three of a kind, Queens.
Weslly0420 wins $6.83
Rake is $0.23

Nov. 2, 2015 | 7:09 p.m.

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