Great series though, very interesting stuff !
Just a sidenote: idk if its just me but naming tables 1 - 4 is way easier to follow for me then top left bottom right etc. Even though its just a second but it consumes some engery to ' find' and follow the action on the responding table. Esp when watching on the phone when cards are small and a bit more difficult to read.
Keep up the great work and thanks for the awesome content
Jan. 11, 2017 | 1:58 p.m.
Table 2 min 9 regarding the river:
Unfortunately you mix up the preflop action talking about him having 3b (he r vs ur limp)and how he could have 87 combos in his range.
Anyhow Imo you focus too much on Ax hands and don't consider rundowns or other hands. A hand like T876 , JT87dd or similar makes sense to not cbet and x/c T. Especially since he could actually be inclined to bet most Ax hands OTT himself to deny ur marginal draws their equity .
R is still a bet though, just maybe smaller to induce more calls?
Jan. 11, 2017 | 12:53 p.m.
I mix preflop, sqz the slightly better connected single suited AA and flat the disconnected ones.
Flop bet is already close, you could also check your entire range here - not much value expected if u have QT here and bet. And with that SPR u easily get stacks in betting T +R.
So if we only x/c or x/f here we can avoid headaches on later streets:
X/f : bare AA/ kk and air
X/c :trips+, aa/kk/Q + straightdraw, wraps
Then we have enough hands to stackoff and can fold some parts of our range on later streets + have bluffing hands if T goes x,x
Nov. 29, 2016 | 8:27 p.m.
X/c , donk is a cool line.
I like vbetting the river because we want to be able to play aggressively in these spots. If we bet a range of Q7+for value and bluff with anything worse then Qx ( AK89, JTT/99 etc) we force him to either bluffcatch us lighter or making incorrect folds.
Nov. 29, 2016 | 8:03 p.m.
I like a mixed betting / checking strategy as well, usually picking hands with a blocker as betting candidates. But also depending on the likelihood of really getting x/r . Like on an 8 he gas far more straights then on the 5. And since he didn't x/r flop he probably hasn't too many strong hands like a straight +redraw that wants to shovel money into the pot. I could see a lot of straights actually just x/c here.
So that lets me tend to barrel in this spot.
Nov. 29, 2016 | 7:53 p.m.
Flop lead is close with that spr given stacksizes. Sure we have a lot of FE but are crushed in a lot of scenarios :against Aa+nfd or one having the Nfd and somebody else a made hand/Aa+straightdraw or strong combodraw...
So I don't mind the check, eventually folding if there is a bet and a raise depending on reads+ranges of mp+co.
As played i like shoving since we have foldequity , get the other 2 players to fold hands with equity and have good equity vs SB's stackoff range
Nov. 29, 2016 | 7:46 p.m.
I would fold. Looks a lot like either J99 /997 that binked the river or as u mentioned yourself a slowplayed bigger boat. But not a good spot for him to bluff since ur range is uncapped and very strong, even with the small betsizing.
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Oct. 29, 2016 | 5:50 p.m.
very good video !
I found out that a lot of regulars in the zoom500 pool have very high River AF (over 3.5 ) but not outstanding high AFq% (around 30%) . My assumption would be that they bet and raise quite often , but don't call much , so OOP they are more prone to c/f (or the rarely c/r) then to c/c once they check and probably also rather betting strong hands (both donking and barreling) instead of checking them .
So basically they vbet and bluff a lot, but don't bluffcatch that often .
Does that makes sense to you?
Oct. 6, 2015 | 11:28 a.m.
I tried to take a closer look using PJ and came up with the following results:
First I worked with ranges to get a general overview about the situation: Hero has a tight, AA-heavy 4betting range of all AA + $4b3 which includes a few very strong KK and ABBB - combos. Sauce has a tight $3b6 range without AA which includes many strong ds-hands and not that many KK-combos. Since I don't know his exact range and if he has a 3bet/folding range I think it's a close enough estimate.
We see CO's range consisting of roughly 20% flushes , few 2p/sets - but many K/AA-hands (roughly 4% is Kxxx in range C and D , the rest is AAxx) with/without a d-blocker and few other hands
BU's range looks the following:
-more flushes the CO (close to 30% of his entire range)
-roughly 11% 2p+
-> overall 41% of hands that are a solid favorite over CO's range
If we give him a somewhat wide continue range vs a small cbet of any (K,4,2)!rr and 42+ we see that he is able to continue with 60% of his preflop range and the subranges look like that:
-he will have a flush almost 50%
- 32% 1pair , less then 20% of those will have a straightdraw
As a sidenote:
If CO decides to shove his range here and BU expects him to have KJ or better, then Co shows a nice profit of 41.5BB and has still 23% vs the stackoff range.
Interestingly, if our perceived range is AA+ , then our EV for shoving drops :
Now on a 'bad' turncard we can't expect much FE anymore and we become a significant dog vs his range, so not suprisingly our EV for shoving now is much lower:
His range consists of :
(note that he can even stackoff with 'C' given the potodds)
On a 'good' Turn we are doing much better though:
Alright, hopefully these numbers help to get a clearer idea of the situation and somebody could provide some more input to help solving which line (betting small or shoving flop) will show a higher profit!
The link to the PJ file is :Pokerjuice
Sept. 19, 2015 | 3 p.m.
Given the positions I lean towards betting small OTF. Our cold4betting range is the widest given its BU/SB/BB and we have tons of ds-hands in our range. I'd say this board hits both ranges more or less equally with us having more nutted hands (high flushes) and dry OP - SB having more mediums (2p+) .
Given that we are IP and have a polarity advantage I think we get c/c often and not c/r frequently since he has little incentative to c/r his 2p or straights. Then we can ch back our range OTT (given the low SPR, little FE vs 2p+ and to not have to split our range into a shoving and ch back range) and have still an uncapped range OTR to call his OOP-floats (QJT9-type hands) often enough with our strong hands and fold our weak hands.
We are also able to get to SD a decent amount of the time since he will not always bluff his 1pair hands (we still have some airballs like AKQ2!ss). Also we can consider bluffing our air and turning our KK/AA into a bluff ( the combos with a spade) to balance the time we vbet Rivers with flushes. Esp if the Turn/River outcome makes straights and 2pair more likely (so basically cards between 8-K) to apply pressure on his weak bluffcatchers.
Sept. 16, 2015 | 9:40 a.m.
nice video, interesting to see how the game is all about ICM ...
In your opinion, what would be the ICM strategy for those hyper turbo PLO satellites (2 of 6 players get a ticket)? Especially once it becomes 3 handed and stacks are roughly 2bigstacks , 1 shorty : should a bigstack in the BB call light vs a BU-shorty open (= 2.5-5bb eff stacks)?should the bigstacks open very wide from the BU no mather if the shorty is SB or BB?
Also if at least one player is very loose, just wants to gamble and is not worried about busting: should that in theory tighten up the other players ranges since they have less FE on their steals?
thanks and gl!
Sept. 8, 2015 | 8:52 a.m.
very good video,
just curious that in hand 2 on the River you didn't consider him bluffing with any A:hh since he will peel all of them on the turn and they have significantly less SDV then AK . It may still be a correct fold depending on reads and gameflow but I assume that would alter the distributions quite a bit.
June 4, 2015 | 1:28 p.m.
Very good article, thx for sharing .
Regarding the hand, i like c/c flop but not sure about the turn. Given stackdepth c/r is not so appealing so i assume given that c/c protects our range and lets him barrel rivers i prefer the passive route.
May 21, 2015 | 7:11 a.m.
read the evernote file, looks very interesting!
overall I would lean towards a call since he may decide to bluff with many more no/marginal SDV hands like T98 or Jx. Your range looks a lot like Ax or mediocre 2pair and if you fold AQ I assume you would underdefend on the river.
but like you stated it depends highly on villain because some just never bluff rivers for example.
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May 10, 2015 | 3:24 p.m.
I got curious about that spot and played around a bit with PokerJuice:
I gave him a flop-stabbing range of any board pair and better and any gutshot or better (that's already 84% of his preflop range! ):
I was unsure how to assign ranges on the turn since it's very player dependend. To simplify I assumed that he would shut down with air and also slowplay his strong hands to be balanced on the river (beeing able to call / bet / raise on almost any card). I know this may be way off, so i invite everybody to play around and come up with a good range distribution : PokerJuice
By the river his range looks the following:
If he now decides de vbets trips+, check 9+ and bluff everything weaker we have a very profitable c/c:
even if he checks 6+ we can still call :
so it looks like your instict was right :) It's obviusly very simplified since it's tough to estimate his turn betting / checking range and if he bluffs with all his air hands or not.
March 10, 2015 | 4:53 p.m.
min22 table 3: do you in hindsight still feel like this R call is breakeven-ish ? considering his large flop stabb and his ability to get tricky sometimes (ch back a boat on the turn) + vbet thinly vs your somewhat faceup range ...