erdian
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I am playing in a 2-2 game with 5% rake at a 12 cap. THEY also rake PREFLOP.
To summerize, what would be BEST approach for such a game? I assume to 3/4bet as a bluff seems WORSE in general?
And should my strategy EVOLVE around postflop? Like would it be best to open SMALLER and play deeper SPR post?
March 26, 2021 | 12:51 p.m.
True, but a shot-clock needs to be controlled by X(usually the dealer) and it requires some hardware. As it would with the projector which I guess has to be bought and installed, I dont know if a regular 1-2 home game is willing to go so far?
Regarding the ''inconvenience'', as a player are you annoyed that people play slow or it dont bother you much? I just assume by myself that certain things can be worth effort if there is a greater reward? Hopefully it will eliminate certain annoying factors are having to complain about slow players to management.
Or perhaps its wrong assumption in general if u want to relax and just play? After all, if most players dont care, there is not really a need for any for any time-management.
May 31, 2019 | 1:53 p.m.
Dear RIO members, I write to all live-players out there. Don't matter if it's cash games or tournaments. Low/high-stakes.
I and a friend have sketched a program/application that is made for optimizing time at a poker table. While there is an idea behind a shot-clocks for live play already my opinion is that there should be a normality to it like in chess or online.
The goal is to give any stake/buy in tournament an easy and accessible way to time-manage without to having to get any special equipment for it as long as all players have a phone. In the worst case scenario you can use an external clock off some sort, but that is an option when there is not phone available for some reason.
As LIVE-players do you relate and agree on above? I mean if it's a club/home-game with the stakes 1-2 or 2-5 there is no reason for why we ALL cannot play maximum amount of hands. If there is a way to make this simple and accessible would you as a player think about trying it?
I want to create a prototype and test it, but as a step before I wanted to ask players what they think in general about using this as a ''normal'' part of the game. Have you tried/heard about anything similar? And what is your experience on that?
If you think this could be something interesting, have suggestions or would like to help me test it even, write! This is not all information but I wanted to reach out to and hear what you think.
May 31, 2019 | 9:36 a.m.
May 30, 2019 | 8:51 p.m.
Yeah,was thinking of playing a 100 EU sattelit for a 1k event this week. Wonder if there is any videos regarding it?
Any advice other ways? I heave heard you should be super nitty in them so far? Is it weird when its like 20 guys left and 18 gets paid so its worth folding AA preflop etc...?
May 29, 2019 | 11:08 a.m.
Anybody knows any apps/programs for home-games/club. I am thinking about something that can
perhaps track how long each player is playing and have to pay X per hour?
In general just something that can see how much each person have bought in for, and how long
they have played?
May 20, 2019 | 11 a.m.
I call, you mostly have 2+pair plus in this spot, the river completes a straight and FD, against certain villians you could even considering raising. So yeah its a good scare card if u had AQ/A8. The fact he is not potting makes me want to call even more, as I would pick a similiar sizing to get value with a nut-straight.
April 23, 2019 | 10:32 p.m.
9-handed sb-bb-straddle
Hero AA82hchs(sb) 300 bb's eff preflop.
Utg limp, 5x from midpos co,hero, sb, bb and utg calls.
Flop: 945dds(30 bb's) checked around
Turn: Ad, all check to midpos who bets 18, CO folds, Hero calls, rest folds
River: Jd, hero check, midpos bets 54, Hero?
Midpos is more on the loose passive side, he seemed quite nervous on the river, the hands shaked a little and he hold a
hand over his mouth. But I have not played with him enough to correlate any tells. He also took some time before betting,
usually live-recs bets faster with bluffs...
April 21, 2019 | 1:27 p.m.
I play almost only short-stacking for live, dunno if it translates for online. but not to have to drop down and since u can run away quite fast with buy ins, meaning one BI=50 bb's I would say 100 BI's atleast so you can take rought patch without having to struggle mentally.
April 18, 2019 | 4:32 p.m.
Game plays sb-bb-Straddle,
Hero(UTG) 4x with KKJTscch, gets 7 calls. We are 250 bb's eff pre with table.
F: 33Qr(32 bb's) x-around
T: Qx, x-around again
R: Kx, Station(sb) snapleads for 32 into the field, all fold to Hero?
What size to raise? He bet it like the K helped him, K3/KQ mostly, Dont ever expect him to fold a full-house if I raise. Do we go bigger and target them or smaller and hope he cant fold Q/3?
April 18, 2019 | 1:39 p.m.
This seems like a clear EQ question, I assume that you are last to act in a 3-way pot?
Used this one: http://pokerjuice.com/3way/
You did not categorize villians so I have them following ranges:
CO: 30%:(44,33,55,45,456,536,436,dd,A2,26,67,dd)
SB: 10%:(44,33,55,67,456)
CO bet his half stacka nd SB jams so we can assume they fold 0% of time. With those ranges above 3-ways your ev should be around $147.40/15 bb's. So yes you can call.
April 18, 2019 | 1:32 p.m.
Played the hand a while back, I dont remember exact stack sizes BUT I know clearly the SPR on the Turn.
Was about 60 left out of 80 starters.
UTG 3x, midpos c, Hero(CO) c with AdKdJc2d, BU and bb calls.
Flop: Q75ddh (5-ways) UTG leads 1/2 pott, midpos folds, Hero and BU calls, bb folds.
Turn: Jh, UTG potts, Hero?
I think my call preflop is borderline? Perhaps you should play tigther in a tour then cg?
SPR on the turn is 1 exactly for hero, BU and UTG has about 2-3 SPR between themselves.
UTG is a good lag, BU is a fish.
April 11, 2019 | 3:57 p.m.
9-handed with sb-bb-straddle
Midpos 4x, HJ calls, Hero calls with AJT4hhsh, bb 3-bets to 16, Everybody calls.
F: T97cdh (65) bb x, Midpos x, HJ jams remaining 36 bb's, Hero?
bb about 120 bb's, Mid and Hero are 250 eff OTF.
bb-lag fish, HJ-lag fish jams this flop 100% with ANYTHING. Midpos-decent reg. on the passive side in general.
Forgot to metion I am on BU, if that makes the hand unclear.
March 28, 2019 | 3:42 p.m.
Are you on the BB, and how much is your effective stacks?
March 25, 2019 | 2:21 p.m.
Alright! TY
March 11, 2019 | 1:16 p.m.
So in general at the early levels I can play my cash style buth with smaller raise sizings preflop?
March 10, 2019 | 4:32 p.m.
Ok, guess after bb's are below 30 bb's etc..?
March 8, 2019 | 8:47 p.m.
It is a tour week in my local casino, I play only PLO-Cash, was thinking of trying the PLO tour.
(rest all are NL)
Just looked at the defition of ICM and what it means(yeah I am a tour fish :D).
Wondering if u savy-tour players want to give a fellow RIO member some advice.
or tell me what I know is bad/good:
What I HAVE ''heard'':
-GII preflop with KKxx early is just WRONG
-AAxxs/r is also bad or?
-Limp/raise smaller?
-Play more pots in general as people tend to suck in PLO tours? Haha
guess its field based. But what I have heard my field is awsome.
I just wanna play it for some fun/different therefore I am seeking anything basic that can make me a little
better in a small amout of time.
Thank you in advance.
March 6, 2019 | 2:33 p.m.
Generally live steamed players CALL much more then just 4-bet light. UNLESS you have clearly seen they do it with any xxxx you have to assume a strong range. This would have been a much better spot if for example CO just cold-called the 3-bet.
Unless he knows isolation, but for some reason alot of these ''special'' players just call more then they raise in general.
To be honest, your call preflop is not very good. It's better to 3-bet this hand yourself. SINCE you can get HU and your hand has about 50% vs a 30% open. If he can re-jam that wide.
Jan. 4, 2019 | 9:26 p.m.
I think I got it. 1st hand as it seems you are kinda(UTG) You can probably call and play very timid and passive unless based on tells is a fold. Lows sets and unless the flop is perfect 236/A23 its hard to bet for value. Mostly it's hard to see a flop cheap.
Second hand is a raise, Hight connected cards. when you flop GIN its gonna be 2pair+draws of some kind. Worst case scenario if ONLY K high fd. U can play it passive. But you aim to hit STRONG or get out.
3rd, most likely a raise. Will create quite nice SPR situations, I wont fault you for calling either then playing it timid.
Jan. 4, 2019 | 1:29 a.m.
I am totally lost here... can you STRADDLE from any position in your game?
Jan. 4, 2019 | 1:21 a.m.
9-handed sb-bb-straddle game, Eff stacks are based on Straddle.
Eff stacks 200 bb's
Hero(HJ) Tag-image 3x with AA94dhds, CO, BU,SB and ST calls.
Flop: JJ3dsd(5-way 15 bb's) checked around.
Turn: 5h, sb check, ST Potts, Hero?
Villian is playing solid, and seems to have moves.We played a hand before where
he had Jxxx on JJ8J2, He bet small OTF and OTT then potted the river. Showed
quads when I tank folded to pott. He acted very differently in that Spot BUT it was 3-way,
he was IP and had the nuts on the turn.
Thing is he bet quite ''hard'' with his body. Then again he might have JT76 and is just happy taking it down.
The players Behind me and sb are all quite passive. So if they have Jxxx they bet flop most likely.
He knows he can have it and bets it like that. BUT my GUT is telling me differently.
Problem arise if I call, The river bricks/diamond and he potts I really have to see how he acts when the card
arrives, and how he BETS. And even that might not be enough to make my call EV+.
From a poker stand-point, Its 5-way and dude just pots he has Jxxx PERIOD. But WHAT IF?
I could bet the flop but I do have some EQ in 5-way pot and if sb/st are x/r Jxxx I hate to bet-fold.
Sorry long post, but it seems not so easy to explain tell related spots that I know of :).
Dec. 22, 2018 | 4:24 p.m.
You answered the question yourself, unless you get a TELL. He has you beat, as these old buggers dont pot into 4-way with AK and worse...The only logical hand you beat is JT, and that should either have been a bet by him as he is IP or just a call OTT.
Actually I think he wont even have that hand, since he might be scared you having Txxx and drawing higher boat, so he should 95% bet it OTF.
Dec. 20, 2018 | 9:05 p.m.
Thank you for making it more clear why you should x-back in this spot.
I hoped the poster could make a comment about if he had a ''feel'' for the spot in some way as his analysis was very clear and strategic.
And the more I play live, the more I think we can put those type of ''emotional/tell'' applications to a hand analysis. And for some reason I see it rare if ever at a live comment post.
Dec. 8, 2018 | 12:11 a.m.
Is it that bad to bet fold on the flop with a 1/2 sizing vs a ''good'' range, or you think he will just x/r with ''alot'' and make you fold out EQ?
I just think that he might decide to call sometimes with 9+gutter/K+gutter and some strange combos of like JJT8/QQT8 perhaps? My argument is following IF he assumes you only have AA here like 90% AND can fold to a x/r he should ALWAYS jam on your c-bet. Therefore you check-back.
BUT if not, I think you can bet here about 1/2 and have SPR 1.25 OTT. Lastly, this part is never discussed in but as it is LIVE, I strongly believe you might get something out of looking at him before he checks to you. Did he double-check his cards/you got any feeling about him? I know this is fishy for online-players but in close spots where u can gain additional EV this is a good one after all Live is made for this and I do believe this is the place.
So I just disagreed with phil about something(maybe the 1st :)) but I think people talk so in depth about perfect strategy that they forget to look at a guy from time to time and maybe find something there? Or you did and I am just argumenting for the sake of it? ;)
Dec. 7, 2018 | 1:19 p.m.
It is SPR about 6, so I dont really understand why u want to pott, It makes more sence if it would be 4 as u can then Shove the turn if villian calls.
A much better strategy imo would be have smaller sizings in 3-bet pots when the spr is bigger then 4, Like 2/3 or 1/3 then you can optimize then on the turn for SPR 1 on the river.
I disagree that check-back is good here UNLESS he will take ALOT of stabs on the turn. This boards hits his range so any kind of pair+draw could x/r from him which you are very good against, I would glady x/r this with 8+T9/J+T9 if I had any FE in his spot. It also makes nice SPR for villian on turn if you just call X/R and he can jam.
But SPR 12 yeah you can x-b, but I just think he will have so many draws in his range here that it ''feels'' like betting has to be better in general? You might go small here like 1/3 or 1/2 so can comfortably call x/r and the decide on Turn if he potts into you with money behind.
Nov. 27, 2018 | 3:32 p.m.
3 streets of value against what? 88-22/Q with worse kicker?
Nov. 16, 2018 | 5:14 p.m.
Eff stacks 76 bb's, I have TAG-image, UTG is TAG aswell, MP seems on the loose side.
UTG,Midpos and CO limps, sb completes.
Hero is on bb with QJhs, raises to 8 bb's, UTG and midpos calls, rest folds.
Flop: TTQshd(26) checks around,
Turn: 5s Hero bets 10, UTG folds, Midpos Calls
River: 4s, Hero jams
Pre: QJo should be ahead or wide limping ranges,
Flop: Cant really go 3- streets and betting makes them fold worse, only protection is vs J9(KJ should raise pre?)
Turn: Might check here hoping for a stab? I am repping AK/AJ/Axs/Kxs here as bluffs.
River: I think I underrepped my hand, villians call on the turn indicated weakness so some fd's should not be here,
is it better to x and hope for him to bluff? His acting looked like he did not want me to bet therefore I assume 5x/66-88?
Nov. 15, 2018 | 11:33 p.m.
I fold if its online I think, as blockers and being in ''top''/''botm'' of you calling range much more relevant. I play alot based on game dynamics and tells live(therefore I am not as good online :).
The thing is that the more you put on the dealer compared to the players more prone are mistakes. The goal is for stuff to be smother and faster, I have seen that live at the bike employs a note-pad and I think dealer is the one watching it yeah?
Perhaps its a non issue at bigger casinos where you can rotate staff, but I play private aswell where you have same dealer all night and they get tired no matter the experience.
May 31, 2019 | 4:01 p.m.