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Hi guys,

this is a hand with ~20 Player left in a $215 buy in 1000+ players field. I was doing well with 60bb and chip lead at my table.
I would appreciate your thoughts on this hand:
a) overplayed by calling the SB 3-bet? Is my perception of "deep" wrong?
b) should I have called the flop bet?

Not much info, villain is new player at the table. We had only played 13 hands.
My reasons for calling the preflop 3-bet:
1) we are relatively (!?) deep for such a tournament
2) I have position
3) I cant call just with my best hands. I feel (please correct me here!) that suited connectors with this relatively deep stacks are worth a call, as
it is more unlikely that they are dominated. Also: The odds were 1:2.27 {~ 30% equity needed}. I just ran it through an equity calculator and it
says that I would have 34% against a top 7% range {TT+,ATo+;ATs+}.I actually expect him to 3-bet wider.
Clear (!?) conclusion: call

My reason for folding at the flop:
1) chickened out
2) chickened out (my wounderful stack! 10% of it in the flop, just for a "speculative" play, see below)
What I am thinking now
1) Flop texture not the best for his range (unless of course he had a monster JJ+)
2) I got a little bit of the flop: gut-shot + back door flush
3) I have position! Maybe it is just a c-bet and I can float him?
4) Good price, 1:3.8 ~20%

I am torn between stack protection and chip accumulation?

Here comes the hand:

[b]PokerStars - 20000/40000 Ante 4000 NL - Holdem - 9 players[/b]
[i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 4[/url][/i]

UTG+1: 23.29 BB (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 10.62, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 229)
MP: 24.85 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP+1: 19.84 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 16.48, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 96)
MP+2: 31.08 BB (VPIP: 25.97, PFR: 16.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.67, Hands: 185)
[b]Hero (CO): 59.92 BB[/b]
BTN: 45.82 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 22.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 37)
SB: 41.33 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 13)
BB: 8.7 BB (VPIP: 28.79, PFR: 20.42, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 199)
UTG: 7.16 BB (VPIP: 25.68, PFR: 18.31, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 74)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

[b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i](pot: 2.4 BB)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has 9:club: 8:club:

[i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to 2.5 BB[/color], [i]fold[/i], [color=red]SB raises to 9 BB[/color], [i]fold[/i], [b]Hero[/b] calls 6.5 BB

[b]Flop:[/b] [i](19.9 BB, 2 players)[/i] J:diamond: 2:diamond: 7:club:
[color=red]SB bets 7 BB[/color], [i]fold[/i]

SB wins 19.9 BB

Dec. 5, 2018 | 12:54 p.m.

Thx for your comments. Did I understand it correctly that the solver would donk the flop like I did? Does the software consider the the high c-betting frequency of villain? I got other feedback, that said because of that I should have checked the flop.
My mistake on the turn was that I was thinking that I have some fold equity, but that was wrong. What hands that raise the flop can I make fold? None, except pure bluffs.

So I dont understand, why I should x/shove. What would be the rationale behind it? x/call certainly, If I have the odds.

Nov. 17, 2018 | 7 p.m.

Hi all,

my first post here :)

Payouts are:
32k
24k
17k
13k

stacks are
Villain CU 78bb
BU 45bb
SB 24bb
Hero BB 27bb, holds Qc3c

Villain is raising as chip leader basically every hand, getting a lot of folds. he cbets close to 85%

Villain raises to 2bb, folds, Hero calls for 1bb
Flop: 3s7h2c
Hero bets 2bb, Villain raises 5bb, hero calls
Turn: 8c
Hero Shoves ~18bb

Wrong/Right? :)

I will not post his hand for the moment to not bias the discussion.

Thank you, looking forward to learn here a lot!

Peter

Nov. 12, 2018 | 9:18 p.m.

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