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AnQsoul

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I have been watching a ton of videos about sizing and agree a smaller bet size in this spot would be better. And when i think about it more if villain had the nut flush here he played it in a way which would have won him more if i wasn't such a river raise calling nit..

Dec. 13, 2018 | 8:30 a.m.

i mean being 4pl it is also possible he doesn't know the rules and thought he actually had the nuts with his Ad : )

Dec. 13, 2018 | 8:17 a.m.

Okay so I can’t get the hand history to work from Microgaming so will attempt to just write it out. Been thinking a lot about this hand and think I made a big mistake folding river.

Three handed. Effective stack 200bb. I open pot on the button with KKJ5ds. The sb folds and the big blind pots. I call. I think this is fairly standard. No history with villain. I do have him tagged yellow which means that he kind of knows what he is doing but is on the looser side.

Flop is 472 all diamonds giving me the second nut flush. Villain check calls 75% psb.

Villain checks a Ten on the turn. This is where I think I make a big mistake, I check back. My reasoning being that if he has AAxx no flush , I’m miles ahead, like have him pretty much drawing dead and am crushed if he has AAxxdd

River is a Q. Villain checks again so I go for value and bet 75% pot and villain rips it in my face, check raising pot.

Now, Is villain ever playing the nut flush like this? I mean ever. I have the second nuts and there are 4 diamonds on the board and two in my hand.

I remember listening to a Phil Galfond video where he says when things don’t make sense a good default strategy is to just call. I folded. I levelled myself into a fold where I think it should have been a clear call, as am at the near top of my range..

I think my turn check back made villain think he could successfully turn the nut flush blocker into a bluff, as most people would be going for 3 streets of value with the second nuts here.

Thoughts?

Dec. 12, 2018 | 10:52 a.m.

3 bet bluffing doesn’t work so well in micro plo.. river is definitely a fold..although I think we have to cbet.. if we were playing holdem I can see why checking back flop with nfd might be a good idea..

Dec. 4, 2018 | 9:53 p.m.

Lol all your posts are basically fold pre flop...

Dec. 4, 2018 | 9:47 p.m.

I am learning plo at the minute and have a hard time folding KK pre.. However I find it easy to fold in the blinds.. it just sucks ass playing a deep 4 bet pot OOP with meh Kings vs a villain who is going to Cbet most flops.. we can’t just fold all flops that don’t give us the nuts, which is how we end up in a shitty spot sticking in 70bb and folding to the second barrel..

Dec. 3, 2018 | 11:16 p.m.

playing without stats.. great. except you USE STATS

Dec. 2, 2018 | 6:33 p.m.

I don’t understand why it is better to bet this flop with JJ than it is AA/KK. Villain likely has 6 outs with two overs or he has a hand like 55-88, maybe even ATs..

the only bluff we can have when we bomb turn really is AQs+, occasionally JQ however given UTG is a CS we wouldn’t be wanting to play a big pot OOP with JQ which is why your range is pretty much JJ+ AQs+.. would like to check turns in this spot some % of the time and let villain float us.

I Wouldn’t be worried about too many river cards, villain likely has just 12% equity with his overs and just 4% with his pocket pairs that don’t have straight draws. I like two streets of value in these spots,but just don’t really see what is calling us that we beat as played given villain is tight..

sometimes I think you just have to be brave to get stacks and let villain put you on AK, which is impossible given how the hand has played out.. in these spots with SPR ~ 1, I base my action when OOP on what I would do if villain shoves.. if I call I just check and give him some rope.. it’s sooooo tempting to just ram it in when in villains shoes with all kinds of hands that we are absolutely crushing with this SPR..

Sept. 18, 2018 | 12:24 p.m.

The weak and exploitable players will be bust by the time you have worked out strategies to beat them on pio..

Sept. 9, 2018 | 8:32 a.m.

It's not that large considering villain opens for pot..

Sept. 8, 2018 | 4:06 p.m.

Hand History | AnQsoul posted in NLHE: 10z. KK versus???
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $21.33 (Hero)
SB: $16.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $15.28
MP: $15.50
CO: $4.55
villain is Chinese. (its early Friday evening in China currently so would imagine lots of recs playing. Gambley looking stats (45/35 only 18hands, 0% fold to 3bet in 2 occassions). I don;t think I have ever met a chinese nit..
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is BN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, MP calls $0.70
Usually make it 3x on the button with kings but as we were deep i added a bb on. Maybe make it 11 or 12?
Flop ($2.15) 4 J 6
MP checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75
I bet small to keep my range wide. I'm essentially trying to rep AK, AQ, 99+ and to build a pot which could possibly induce some spazz either on the flop or later streets
Turn ($3.65) 4 J 6 T
MP checks, Hero bets $1.26, MP raises to $4.27, Hero calls $3.01
Not sure about my sizing here but want a call. Villain check raises pretty big. Not too sure what to make of this line from villain. I'm never folding KK in this spot versus him so tank a little and just call.
River ($12.19) 4 J 6 T 5
MP bets $9.48 and is all in, Hero calls $9.48
flush completes. Villain insta rips it in,.

Sept. 7, 2018 | 11:09 a.m.

Comment | AnQsoul commented on Low pair in 3bet pot

Folding turn fo sho. Most villains will check turn with EVERY AK with a diamond A ime

Sept. 7, 2018 | 2:35 a.m.

So how do we know which bluffcatchers are bluff raises and which are bluffcatchers? We can’t raise too many bluff catchers as we won’t have any good bluff catchers left to bluff catch? I think I answered my own question.. raise the worst bluffcatchers, bluffcatch with the best?

Sept. 7, 2018 | 2:29 a.m.

I think he is saying this is a clear fold and there are plenty of hands like TT, JJ, KQ which we should raise rather than AK...although sauce is the best so idk.

Sept. 7, 2018 | 2:20 a.m.

If you have to choose AK on this board to turn into a bluff I think you have to do something aggressive before the river.. and raise bigger. You aren’t using that sizing with a Q like ever.. it almost looks like you are turning AA into a bluff cos why not...

Sept. 7, 2018 | 2:17 a.m.

you are repping a hand villain beats

Sept. 7, 2018 | 2:13 a.m.

Comment | AnQsoul commented on turn play

Definitely would just fold pre vs an unknown..

Sept. 6, 2018 | 2:01 p.m.

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