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You don't have to get the math right on the dot I would say. As long as you have a general idea of what's in the pot you're good.

Take the time inbetween hands (meaning those hands you're not involved in) to follow the action and try to keep count. It will become second nature and there is no reason to be overly nervous or excited.

Also, the dealers count the pots because of the rake drops they have to make. Worst comes to worst, ask them about the pot size. However this will also let other players know about that sizes and if they have not been paying attention this would help them as much it helps you.

Generelly speaking paying a lot of attention and keeping the socializing to a minimum will greatly benefit your game. While you do need a sample size of observations to categorize your villains accordingly any observation is worth a lot. Keep that in mind and your game will improve!

Dec. 29, 2019 | 7:55 p.m.

Comment | BrokeAcehole commented on PLO kills me

I'll keep things short and simple. Thank you guys for getting back at me. This is actually a great community and I appreciate that. I'm revisiting everything about my game top to bottom and try to get a better mindset on everything. I was expecting positive results to early as I was under the impression that everybody elses makes the transition fast. That does not seem to be true though.

As mentioned the emotional bank account is much rather a problem than the financial. Meaning the losses are not a problem at all from a financial point of view. That being said I won't give up and dig through!

Have a good one


Dec. 29, 2019 | 7:45 p.m.

Hand History | BrokeAcehole posted in PLO: AAxx fit or fold on Flop
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: $18.94
SB: $10.00 (Hero)
BB: $20.35
UTG: $9.99
MP: $9.85
CO: $15.12
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is SB with A 5 6 A
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, UTG calls $0.30
Flop ($0.90) K 3 9
Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $8.06, UTG raises to $9.59 and is all in, Hero calls $1.53
Turn ($20.08) K 3 9 T
River ($20.08) K 3 9 T Q
Final Pot SB lost and shows a pair of Aces.
UTG wins and shows three of a kind, Kings (pot not awarded as player cashed out).
UTG wins $19.23
Rake is $0.85

Dec. 22, 2019 | 2:39 a.m.

Comment | BrokeAcehole commented on PLO kills me

I gave it one more try. I basically loosened up my VPIP a bit. I watched a shitload of videos and basically play my hands as suggested.

This Omaha adventure is was the sickest shit I have ever experienced in all my Poker life which wasnt one of failure. I lost every hand in every conceivable way. Flips I practically always lose. 60% Eq, 70% Eq, turns with top set with gut shot straight draw to nuts and 2nd NFD... It is pure insanity. 25 Buy-Ins under EV stretched out on 70k of hands on PLO25.

Truth be told this is the only game I do run tilt after a while because it seems to me that whatever I do, it fails. How is this even possible that one's EV line constantly runs UNDER the red line. I simply dont get it. I have shown in my poker life that I do understand Texas quite well but this is a complete fucking mystery to me. The graph actually shows far worse results the more I studied Omaha.

Correct me if I am wrong but to me it seems that going by videos and my own experienced on mostly PLO 25, PLO 25 is far more reg infested than higher limits. Honestly, it's crazy. I only get calls from stone fucking cold nuts. Anyways, if a coach reads this, I'm happy to have a sit down and pay that but so far I'm done.

Dec. 18, 2019 | noon

Comment | BrokeAcehole commented on PLO kills me

My Stats are rather tight which I personally find odd. VPIP 15.2 and PFR 10.2
I lose too much money if not most with AAxx which is ofc one problem yet not everything. I don't feel I have a problem with the postflop hand selection.

I also run Leak Buster which doesn't indicate many leaks anymore. I would say I act too aggressively on boards in general. I check far less than I should and try to take pots down by betting however if thats the case why is my VPIP far under average.

It also seems to me that I have problems perceiving an opponents range and deconstructing his hand which makes them move me off my hands.

Dec. 17, 2019 | 9:49 a.m.

Post | BrokeAcehole posted in PLO: PLO kills me

Hey folks.

First things first, since this is rather a general PLO thread than an actual question, pardon me if that's the wrong subsection.

A few cliff notes about me. Started poker in early 2000's. Grinded somewhat well. Scored 3rd in Sunday Mill in 2009 and some low stakes tournies. Played live Poker with rather break even results. Took years of a break and went back to the casinos with better adjustment and do quite well so far.

I decided to tackle PLO online because the tournaments are too time consuming. I don't like being stuck in tournaments for 8 hours or more and also, of course, Omaha is fun (or so I thought). I took a swing at Omaha a couple of times always with poor results.

Lately I did study it somewhat ambitiously. Watched a a lot of videos and read strategy sections and I was under the impression that I got a good basic understanding of it. As it turns out, I don't.

I pretty much lost at every limit PLO50 (lowest hand count), PLO 25 (most) and PLO 10 over a sample size of 100k hands. No matter where I play and no matter how. I got punched in the face. I tried to play tight and basically position heavy. No matter how I went about it. The best I achieved was break even sessions. Usually the graph just knows one direction: sightly downhill.

I am running somewhat heavy under EV too. I lost 3.2k $ on those limits I mentioned and out of that, 600$ under EV. This whole thing bugs me so much, that I am considering quitting Poker all together. I figured, if I can't beat PLO 10/ PLO 25 what's the point of trying it on any game. Don't get me wrong. I don't expect to crush high limits right away. I'm not even trying. My goal was to run somewhat decent (lower spectrum bb/100) on the low stakes but this seems like a pipe dream already. I'm willing to give it another shot however approaching it all theoretically (studying) and not practically (playing) because I really want it. However I don't know where to begin except reading and watching everything I have so far.

Do you guys have any advice how to go about it?


Dec. 17, 2019 | 3:58 a.m.

Liked it very much. Keep it up, Henry!

Dec. 8, 2019 | 5:31 p.m.

Thank you, Mark. A straight forward format. I hope I'll see more content from you.

Dec. 6, 2019 | 4:30 p.m.

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