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Comment | CoVSA commented on plo hyper aggressive

Shift some of your 3! range into your flatting range. Tighten up your flop calling range a little, but once you've gotten to the flop / turn with decent equity, effectively close your eyes and press the call button. It feels like a variance train, but I've found that starting in a better than questionable point makes every subsequent decision easier...

June 19, 2020 | 4:57 p.m.

Out of position, given the description of villain, I definitely want to 3 bet the flop. C/r vs b/3b is perhaps closer, but having bet I think we should be 3! and (hopefully) getting it in vs draws we crush

June 19, 2020 | 4:50 p.m.

Seems like a call?

Raise / fold sucks
Raise / call is spew
And button checked behind on the flop so I'm not too worried about him raising behind us.

May 28, 2020 | 3:42 p.m.

Comment | CoVSA commented on PLO25 Turn Spot

DasSmithStar Thanks for the feedback.

If we pot turn, do we not have to call off the river when he jams?

Assume one of the worst case scenarios, Villain has AJT9 with spades. After we pot and he jams we have 52.5bb left and there's 129 in the pot. We need a prerake equity of 28.9% to make the call.

We have 9 outs to the win (1 king, 3 queens, 3 twos and 2 tens) = 22.5%
Plus we have 3 outs to the chop (non spade aces)

If he ever has 2 pair + nfd here do we not have to call the shove?

May 27, 2020 | 6:25 a.m.

Comment | CoVSA commented on PLO25 Turn Spot

Sorry, apparently I didn't add my position to the post - I'm on the button, so didn't donk.

May 26, 2020 | 3:42 p.m.

Post | CoVSA posted in PLO: PLO25 Turn Spot

Villain is a reg, but we don't have much history. Only read I have to date is that he 3bets liberally.

90bb effective
Villain opens CO to 3.5bb
Hero flats KdKcJd3s on the button

Flop KsQd2s (8.5bb)
Here pots, villian calls

Turn Tc (25.5bb)
Villian checks

AJ and J9 wraps both got there. But there are likely a lot of flush draws in his range too, along with turned two pair + gutter. Should be a simple maths problem, but without reads I'm finding it difficult to construct a useful range to assign villain.

Pot / call, bet / fold, check and evaluate?



May 26, 2020 | 11:34 a.m.

Comment | CoVSA commented on 200BB Deep 4bet pot

My default would be to go small on the flop (1/4 pot) and then size up on the turn if you get flatted.

I feel people overfold both to the small flop bet and the larger turn bet at these stakes.

Giving up on the river if we get there (not deep enough for a meaningful river barrel)

May 26, 2020 | 11:19 a.m.

Agree with MajinVeta.

Except I won't often barrel this river. People overfold in a lot of spots, but I fee they often have aces up here and aren't folding it.

May 26, 2020 | 11:16 a.m.

I would have 3bet pre in real time, although it is right on the cusp (apparently KQJ9 is a call but KQT9 is a 3b).

Don't like leading at all. Bet / fold seems like a waste of equity and bet / call is going to put us in a lot of tough spots. Check call.

Pot turn

Check river and evaluate, especially if you think there is a chance he will stab with diamonds. We are rarely getting 3 streets of value from KJ if we bet.

May 26, 2020 | 11:12 a.m.

Comment | CoVSA commented on BTN vs BB C-bet examples

Haven't read the other responses (interested to see how my responses match up), and take this with a pinch of salt as it isn't going through a solver, but my feelings are:

  1. Bet. Not folding to a c/r. We have so much equity, and if they are pushing a draw it is going to be pair + inside wrap at the very best - and more likely to be pair + gutter.

  2. Checking back. We have decent equity, and can make good decisions on the turn in position. But we hate life if we get c/r. B/3B, B/C and B/F all seem horrible.

  3. Betting this, but on the small side. We have decent equity and block a lot of his combos that he wants to c/r with. Could size up on favorable turns.

  4. Quite opponent dependent. If he is only c/r strong hands here and generally overfolding I don't mind b/f. Checking back and playing a turn seems good against more aggressive opponents though - especially if they are going to lead the turn by default.

  5. Checking back. We likely have good equity, but hate getting c/r. On a rainbow flop I'd be more inclined to bet.

  6. Betting smallish. 10 blockers make it unlikely he is going to c/r here without having us crushed, and there are a number of turns that are good for barreling (or value betting).

May 24, 2020 | 5:57 a.m.

Post | CoVSA posted in PLO: BB Defence vs CO


The below hands were played at RIO at PLO10. Hero is in BB and the action went CO raise to 3.5bb, BTN fold, SB fold. I elected to flat these in the BB in real time.

Assume no meaningful reads. Are there any that you feel should be 3bets or folds when taking into account player pool tenancies and rake?

  1. AJ52 single suited to Ace
  2. AK96 single suited to Ace
  3. AJ96 single suited to Ace - 3bet?
  4. AQT4 single suited to Ace - 3bet?
  5. JJ52 single suited to Jack
  6. JT92 single suited to Jack
  7. 9775ss



May 23, 2020 | 6:13 a.m.

Post | CoVSA posted in PLO: PLO Hand Converter


I have been trying to post a hand played on RIO, but the converter keeps labeling the wrong person as the Hero. I'm pasting in the raw hand history, but have no idea how to fix this.

Any ideas?

May 23, 2020 | 5:57 a.m.


I have been looking at some simulation results on ProPokerTools, particularly regarding 3bet pots. A lot of the spots are AA* and KK* related, but I also want to include x% of hands spots. I can do this on the simulator... but have no idea what hands it is putting into the category.

Is there a resource somewhere online that defines what hands are in the top x% for PLO?



May 23, 2020 | 5:51 a.m.

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