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Clarification needed from FTGU PLO course - supposed GTO win-rate doesn't make sense
Hey everyone,
I'm reviewing From the Ground Up PLO with Thomas Emter and he goes over the expected win rates in a GTO environment for different positions:
BTN 19.1 bb/1000
SB -35.4 bb/100
BB -60.9 bb/100
UTG 8.3 bb/100
UTG+1 10.4 bb/100
CO 13.6 bb/100
Where I'm stuck is that if we add these all up, doesn't that indicate an expected win-rate of - 44.9/100? Losing 44.9/100?
Am I missing something here?
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I'll give this a shot - I'm just beginner PLO player, though:
Pre-flop is fine. We are trip-suited with low danglers, OOP so I'm not that excited about raising it pre-flop and having to go MW OOP w terrible aces. I can see merit to raising small though, hoping that one of the maniacs limp/re-raises with something.
Flop: Any 2,3,5,7,8 (14 cards) or spade (8 cards) on the turn completes the draws so that's 22 cards that hurt us. So I would check/ raise to $335 to charge the draws, expose the sets/two pair. Your hand from the BB looks like 2357 or 3578 or Ks blocker-357 or something like that, so 2pr/sets will continue and might even get it in.
Top set is 70/30 here vs just a naked flush draw so expect every draw & sets to call. Even if everybody folds, you're getting them to surrender their collective 30-50% of equity on the flop.
The only hand you're behind is like 23 57ss or 3578 and even then you're a 47:53 dog.
If a turn blank hits, we pot or go 3/4. The naked flush draws are 80/20 so they might call anyway to gamble. Whereas the combo draws like 2357suited or 3578 will still be about flipping with you as a 53:47 favorite.
If the draws hit on the turn, you're about 20/80 underdog, so if you check and someone pots, you'd need 2 other people to call for you to call.
So as played, I c/r flop. Lead turn on blanks or check/eval-pot-odds on non-blanks.
March 6, 2025 | 8:24 p.m.