Against a weak fish player type i Defently valuebet, not to big as we target a very weak 1 pair so we dont wanna go to large for thin value. Its Pretty important to know if hes capable of xr bluffing etc and How u gonna respond. Against weak passive i just tend to bet alot and fold to action
Jan. 4, 2019 | 2:02 p.m.
How do you guys change when playing deeper stacks?
I guess the standard advice is, you can 3bet abit more in position and tighten up abit OOP because positions matters more when SPR is bigger.
Would be nice to hear what you guys think, like how much tighter should we 4bet, how much wider 3bet? Maybe someone working with PIOpreflop can share some insights.
I dont find any videos about this, juan copani have some good vids about deep, but they are more about postflop play!
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:58 p.m.
About the ranges i gave, i gave him 50% of the J7o, all J8o, most of the 77-88.
''Thin value (26)
J9 (6), J10 (8), QJs (3), T9 (9), ''
Yea, ofcourse, if he goes for thin value with this range, the story is different. Thats not happening in my game however vs competent players, and its not happening at equilibrium either.
But if thats the case, we want to call. But that's a big assumption imo. If you play in soft live games, yea it's quite different because some recs just se their trips and jams way to thinly here.
''I feel it is one of those spots where your right less than half the time, but have to call with the odds.''
Invite me to your games please, they seem soft :d
Jan. 2, 2019 | 11:52 p.m.
''But, is the villain capable of having enough bluffs when they B B B?''
Thats my worry, he had a pretty low aggression and barrel frequncies over a decent sample. Also the this board i dont think he tries to get me off an ace often enough, for this sizing.
What do you think about bluffcatchers? Prefer AJ over A4,A5s? or other way around?
Jan. 2, 2019 | 7:16 p.m.
Ohh, i mean he cant jam JT, JQ in this spot, its way to thin and would acctualy be a bluff ^^
Only calling boats= overfolding. Im not sure, havent checked this one in a solver yet, maybe it's. I think its close because both players have a decent amount of boats, including offsuit combos.
But i also mentioned this villian got low aggression factor, so if its a close or 0EV call in a solver, its a fold because he wont find the bluffs thats hard to find, as a weak player.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 7:09 p.m.
RunItTw1ce Yes i think so.
Yea, me too.. Ye, but i still belive we rather should call with worse Ax becaue we want to think about removal in this situation, having the J kicker dosent help us to beat his value range, we do block bluffs tho.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:45 p.m.
UTG: $192.70 (Hero)
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:31 p.m.
SB: $209.63 (Hero)
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:22 p.m.
UTG wins and shows a full house, Jacks full of Threes.
UTG wins $462.11
Rake is $2.75
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:08 p.m.
SB: $276.61 (Hero)
Jan. 2, 2019 | 5:27 p.m.
100bb first plz, Will be More beneficial för cash players as well!
Dec. 28, 2018 | 4:28 a.m.
Is this stuff also applicable to cashgames? Like how much we needed to tighten up our calls against a ''to tight'' 3b range. Or are we able to defend much wider there because of the SPR is bigger?
Maybe you could do the next part on 100bbs.
Dec. 26, 2018 | 4:01 p.m.
Acctualy i think anzbar line is cool in a vaccum, and the highest ev line. IP Will do More calling mistakes than bluffing on that turn, and still calling all value. Probably not balanced as you said tho.
Dec. 23, 2018 | 8:09 p.m.
I have some questions about exploitative plays and the risk off getting exploited back.
So let's assume we have an autoprofit spot, for example that our opponent is folding to much, so all off our bluffs will be +EV in a vaccum.
Shall we then go for the 100% exploit?
- The merit i se is that we gain alot of EV with some trash hands that should not have buisness in bluffing.
- The problem tho, is that we can loose alot of EV in the future if we get detected with some crazy reckless bluffs.
I think the best way to go is to overbluff for sure, but don't use bluffs that looks too reckless so our opponent can/will start to adjust, because then suddenly our strategy can be sucidal, if he decide to start bluffcatching us a ton because he saw us with some reckless bluffs. And i dont think we want to be in such a levling wars?
There would be some exceptions there we probably want to exploit 100%, more likely this will happen in live games against people we wont see again, or against recrational players in some spots. But starting levling wars against regs in a game we play alot dosent seem to appealing?
Also another thing about absuing people 100%, is that they might notice, and fix leaks in their games and then we lost long term EV.
Another example would be if someone is not bluffing enough OTR and we got a bluffcatcher, we want to fold all the bluffcatchers in a vaccum,
but can that hurt is in the long run?
- I think no? Because they don't know what type of hand we folded, and our stats can still look very legit/standard. So i think we are pretty safe in this type of spots, atleast in a bigger player pool when the spot dosen't show up very often so it's extremly difficult to detect. It would be more of a dangerous exploit if we play a small pool with good players in my opinion.
I want to hear your thougts, on how much you think we should exploit in these type of spots if you agree or think different.
Dec. 21, 2018 | 8:38 p.m.
Tricky spot, i think KTs is a strong bluffcatcher as we block TT and i dont expect him to have JJ or better in range. So i acctualy prefer KT over Overpairs here. Then however, What is he bluffing? 56s now is a straight, 89s prob not barreling? 9Js is a straight.
Very close spot, Im not sure. Cant be a big mistake either folding or calling
Dec. 19, 2018 | 8:54 p.m.
I think Pretty cool spot to bet turn small to put alot of pressure and probably Make all pairs under J fold wich is alot of hands. As played i think fold equity is Pretty low and he station Qx hard. Only folding out some floats KJs AJs etc.
The combo itself is okay as a barrel, But btn vs co AK has a tiny SD value and then we generally avoid bluffing and pick hands that can win at showdown
Dec. 19, 2018 | 8:48 p.m.
What do you guys think is the best Cbetting strategy OOP in 3bet pots?
Some good players go with the rangebet for a small size still, and othes mixes more with small and big bets and checks depending on texture.
What's the pros and cons with both strategys?
I was thinking about because we are OOP it makes more sense to not use small sizings very often, especially on boards wich will change often on turn/river cards. Because of obvious reasons, we need more protection OOP and benefit more from building the pot before texture changes.
Ofcourse there are still decent amount of boards were i think small sizing makes sense because its nothing IP can do about it, A72r KK2 paired boards etc.
But boards where equitys will change alot on future streets, it dosent make sense to bet small?
Dec. 17, 2018 | 5:10 p.m.
First of all you should fold preflop, to avoid spots like these ;) Open this trash hands only if bb really overfolds pre is my suggestion.
As played i think its fairly safe to fold river. This spot is likely underbluffed in generall, because of how favourable this board is for your range, so he will notice you have a lot of easy snapcalls otr so its not very appealing to bluff. Also his pott sizing makes me even less inclined to call because its just a bluffcatcher now anyway, so i would be way more happy to call if he bet 40-70% were we still can chop, and getting better odds vs his bluffs.
About this playertype i would not make any crazy assumptions because he plays 34/24/10 over 50 hands, that dosent tell me too much, ofcourse its something, but i would just try to play solid. It's another thing if he played 50/30 or something and might be a whale. But this could just be a good player.
Dec. 17, 2018 | 4:24 p.m.
Kalupso Cool, so you x/r aggresivly then instead?
Dec. 16, 2018 | 3:17 p.m.
Pretty damn wierd spot! I think bb should only be jamming in theory if he got a xr range, wich he probably want with strongest hands and some strong draws on this wet texture.
Im tempted to fold because i have no plan How to play rivers in this spot. Sure we might overfold, but i dont think its a disaster because we Will still be able to defend soooo many hands here. If i call Im just hoping that he shut down river and prob folding all rivers.
Dec. 13, 2018 | 7:29 p.m.
Looking to bluffcatch river, for the reason David Alford mention.
About the flop strategy either cbet or check is fine with ur hand, depend what your strategy is. I tend to check the weak Ax if i play a checking range in this spot. I lean towards almost rangebetting this texture tho because it favours SB so much.