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Didnt watch the video yet, but the description seems to be misleading. Why would the "ICM implications ramp up" with less players left. Usually at FTs ICM is most important when the FT is starting and payout jumps are shallow, not towards the end when they become steep.

Aug. 16, 2019 | 11:38 a.m.

Comment | GeeTeeOh commented on $5k PowerFest PKO

Calculating the worth of the starting bounty at the beginning of the MTT as being half the stack is definitely wrong. In that case we treat the 5k as a 3.75k
Your other statements are correct aswell.

Aug. 13, 2019 | 7:16 a.m.

40:50
at this stack depth he should pretty much play x/r or fold OTF. Do you have any idea why he decided to call the Cbet?

Aug. 10, 2019 | 12:50 p.m.

Same hand: Would you rather bet JT OTT with the added GS EQ in case we get jammed on or do you think it is too thin (obv with the plan to x/back OTR unimproved).
River - his x/c seems pretty nitty, for the most part he should be betting big with a bit of blocks with his holding I would imagine.

Aug. 10, 2019 | 12:09 p.m.

A MTT Video of Sauce in collaboration with one of the MTT Crushers would be nice. Maybe a 2- or 3-part series where they review some live MTT footage or just the classic online deep run. I am sure the chosen MTT coach would be quite happy about that aswell... :-)

Aug. 10, 2019 | 9:31 a.m.

Hi,
10.00 K9s vs Wushu. I had a similiar sim already saved and actually our Cbetting frequency is quite a bit higher than I would have imagined (>60%). The biggest bet I had allowed for BB on turns in the x/x Probe node was 90%, but it was used much more frequent than the other sizes (~50% freq, obv this will decrease when you up it to 150%, but should be there at a somewhat high freq). OTR as you said the bluffs are heavily mixing, but T7 even when blocking the BDFD is in there just as often as A4,but the jam is almost not happening, PIO prefers a smaller size (with our whole betting range).
12.08 Turnspot w K3, am a bit surprised about your sizing. Firstly he should hardly ever check here, but when he does, PIO only uses a very polarized big bet and high freq check on Turns. Do you care to elaborate, why we would want to use a block here?

July 27, 2019 | 12:10 p.m.

10.35 K5s on Q54A double FD board. You are contemplating a turn bet here and land on b75. Your hand does fine as a check for sure, but when bet I suppose block makes the most sense? From my experience PIO wants to usually block at a very high frequency on A (or other high card turns that do not make str8s).

July 26, 2019 | 8:27 p.m.

Hi Daniel,
11.30 KQs
This should be a high freq 3b (not necessarily vs minr as you said). Solvers want to 3b/c this combo. Do you think with the current meta this is a bit of a punt and our default line should be fold and only call it off vs people from South America?

July 26, 2019 | 6:49 a.m.

31.20
In theory on the turn you should either overbet or check (at this stack depth pot does the job aswell) and AT should be right around the cusp for V-bets. You seem to want to play a more mergy lower size stratgey on the turn (you mentioned mostly checking A5 on the turn, so that means you are sometimes betting it). Could you please elaborate why you opt for this strategy?

July 25, 2019 | 7:49 p.m.

radtupperware I doubt anyone somewhat decent will call quite wide vs a 4.5x open.

Kevin Rabichow In this position pair with the ranges being what they are (I am assuming he is opening what would be a non-ante or slightly looser than that range, considering the raise size as opposed to a MTT player who would open smaller and a looser range in that spot), IP max EV Flop C-bet strategy should be to either bet big or check as he is not incentivized to protection bet with his Kx and big pairs, plus he is gaining a lot of EV with his straight out polarized betting range compared to a b30 range strat.
Obviously the latter will be profitable too and as you said, much easier to implement, but there is a substantial loss in EV compared to a bet big or check strategy.

July 24, 2019 | 6:28 p.m.

First hand:
If he is a good regular, than I assume he knows who you are and will want to try to play some GTO approximation. In that case he should definitely have at least one big sizing on this texture and also be checking quite a bit. If you think he is 0.3xing range, he cannot be that good right...

July 20, 2019 | 11:08 p.m.

Also wanted to mention this, there are a few hands like that in the vid, where a certain play is fine at a non 100% frequency, but you just make them w/o any comment on frequencies or why you would always wanna do it in that certain spot.
The JTs rejam, the AKo 5b jam HJvsLJ 125BB deep, the 55 openjam for >25BB eff (you talked a bit about that, but am still sceptical whether that is the max EV play).

July 9, 2019 | 5:14 a.m.

@ 36.20
I get that, but this is an Ahi board 3way where he stabs BU vs an EP opener check. He almost never bets Tx on the flop. So his river range is Ax, air and the rare trap and vs that range it does not make sense to block KT (or any hand really). Your value threshold for a bet should probably be somewhere around ~AJ, meaning you want to at least pot the river.
You might think block is fine as an exploit, but I am 100% positive villain is competent enough to raise appropriately vs that.

July 6, 2019 | 9:20 p.m.

6.50 Top right
I am surprised at your Flop Sizing, shouldnt we mostly bomb this board with at least a PS Cbet? And on the turn we should have two sizes I suppose (~125% and 35%-50%) where our combo mostly wants to bet small.
36.20 bottom right
I do not understand the block at all. What is it supposed to accomplish?

July 4, 2019 | 10:05 p.m.

Comment | GeeTeeOh commented on More Sunday Grinding

27.20
89o - The 8h is really bad in this spot, PIO usually is very passive with BDFD combos (even if it is only 1 card) when the FD does not come in on turns, unless it is a card that we want to barrel at a very high freq.

July 2, 2019 | 12:13 p.m.

Hi Chris,
great format for the series, would love to see more of these.

14.20 You advocate for a jam, which makes sense. In these spots we usually can play the maximum amount of hands by just openjamming and not having an opening range. Yet most players (or all) will have an opening range in this spot with their premiums and the fringy weak hands and will jam everything in between. If we pure jam, we can jam Q8o here (Nash), but if we start opening, we cannot jam Q9o anymore.
How do you go about it, do you as an exploit vs weaker opposition still jam superwide and just add hands from the folding edge region of your range to open?

30.20 Should we not use a bigger size when we stab on this kind of board texture?

July 1, 2019 | 1:33 p.m.

Comment | GeeTeeOh commented on $1,000 Sunday Warm Up

11.25 U were saying he only has 66. I think it is more likely he has AA than 66 in this spot.
17.20 You say KTs here is a mix. When 3betting would you jam or non-AI 3b?

May 17, 2019 | 11:43 a.m.

Weed and alcohol...!?!
But seriously, you can go through a cooldown routine. Also get some fresh air and do some light exercising can help.

April 23, 2019 | 3:37 p.m.

Comment | GeeTeeOh commented on Showdown Value Bluffs

This example is quite different than the one from the vid though, as there we call bottom pair w/o a draw. I have been thinking a lot about this, but still cannot find a solution other than by calling certain 3x combos we increase our board coverage for certain river runouts, but it cannot be only that ...
Also isn't J4 a higher EV turncall also because it unblocks OOP's bluffing range much more so than QJ?

I have to agree with Apotheosis, a really great video.
It would be great if you could continue illustrating concepts that are not immediately evident by using PIO.

April 13, 2019 | 9:02 a.m.

No, it is part 5. He corrects himself in this vid. Plus in the end of vid 3 he has AA on his 5th bullet and this one starts with bullet number 9...

March 25, 2019 | 2:41 p.m.

Post | GeeTeeOh posted in MTT: Seth Davies

Hi,
just a quick request.Could someone from the team please ask Seth Davies to look at the comments of his vids please? He is in my opinion one of, if not the best MTT video producer and I find it unfortunate that questions about his vids stay unanswered.
It would be great if he could at least answer them on a monthly basis or so.

Thanks!

March 23, 2019 | 10:51 p.m.

Where is Part 4?

March 23, 2019 | 10:45 p.m.

23.40
Would a 2/3PS bet not make more sense OTT? You do not have to protect and it would allow you to jam River for ~ 2/3PS.
Also I am quite curios what your bluffing range looks like here, other than the broadway GSs. I would suspect most people heavily underbluff this spot as they do not realize that they have to keep on barreling with some no EQ hands.

26.30
In theory you should only have one huge size OTT with a very polarized range. Do you still think in retrospect it is ok to have 2 sizings here as an exploit?

47.20
Pretty interesting decisions throughout the hand. PF the 3bet size is really small. You are quite shallow, but 2,35x just seems a bit too tiny.
As you said, Flop should be a x/back quite a bit and AA should be mostly checking.
OTT I doubt that you should have a shoving range here.

March 22, 2019 | 12:26 a.m.

A++ content Seth, really appreciate the work you put in. Also once again you give good ideas into how to organize one's own off the table work. Please keep it up!
- 542r How come you do not allow BB leads? I am pretty confident BB should do a non neglectable amount if leading here. Is it because of the current meta game where pop does not lead enough on these baords and you don't want to skew the results?
- 12.40 We have to realize this is vs PIO. Almost no one is x/raising as aggressively as PIO is. Esp considering the fact that most people prolly over C-bet this boards and BB thus should x/r even more aggressively. So dont you think vs most opps getting in TT here is torching and by quite a bit?
- 19.30 I think you are a bit off here. 96s and T6s are actually blocking quite a bit of IPs b/f range. I suppose PIO is still using these combos as they just have to little SDV to x/call.

Feb. 9, 2019 | 11:50 a.m.

You can just use right+left arrow for the next action on the table and up+down arrow for next/previous hand.

Jan. 24, 2019 | 12:35 p.m.

24:50
I do not really understand why you size so small, esp OOP. I realize that he is short, but assuming you have some amount of bluffs in your 3b range here he can almost fold nothing to this size and you also do not get max value with the top of your range pre.

Jan. 1, 2019 | 11:35 p.m.

You are making a mistake in logic here. In a 1050$ PKO you are paying 500$ for 100k starting chips. You cannot count in the rake and the other 500$ that you pay for the bounty as they are taken out of the regular prizepool.
Just take the example of a Super KO. It is widely agreed upon that a bounty is worth one starting stack in chips, so it is just logical that in a PKO it equals to 50%.

Dec. 27, 2018 | 3:40 p.m.

10:30:
You make a mistake with the math of the PKO here. The initial bounty is worth half the stack, not 25% (actually even a bit more if you factor in the rare case in which you happen to win the tournament).
See also this video and thread for further discussion:
https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/comparing-ranges-freezeout-vs-pko/

Dec. 24, 2018 | 5:05 p.m.

20.40:
If one looks at Sims for these spots, EVs between using multiple sizes or just using 1 sizing (usually 1/3) run pretty close and by that I mean very close. So I am still undecided, whether it might not be best to severely simplify our strategy and just use 1 Flop sizing or use a more complex betting strat right away.
I know that most top notch players opt for multiple sizes as they prolly want to itch out that tiny bit of EV, but in my opinion it is more important to clarify, in which of the strategy choices the sum of mistakes made by us is less, than the sum of mistakes made by BB.
Do you have any opinion on that or spots like these in general, where we can use a much more complex strategy that gains us a very small amount of EV or refrain to a more simple one in order to minimize the mistakes we make?
In GTO world we obviously would always take the max EV strat, but being a human limits our possibilities and it seemed to have worked quite well even at Stars nosebleed NL CG (am referring to OBORRA).

Dec. 21, 2018 | 1:25 a.m.

~ 42.00
I am not sure if we want to bet this combo OTT, but if we do, we should definitely go for a smaller sizing (something around 30%) and I also think that makes more sense w range and would also be PIO approved.
With stacks being as they are you would not even have to split sizings OTT here, as you would have ~ a PS bet left OTR.

Dec. 18, 2018 | 1:40 a.m.

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