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540 points

As for the graph, I assume you are paying roughly 9 to 11 BB/100 in rake so you are taking $$$ out of the game but rake is a big drag. I think if you clean up some of the stuff above, your green line is going to start to head in the right direction. Look at it this way, I have had times where I lost 15 BI's in a 1200 hand session and I am sure all the guys here have had the same thing. I look them over and if it is variance or close spots, I don't spend too much time on them. If I catch myself raising 74s from UTG, flopping 2 pair and getting stacked consistently, I have to adjust what I am starting with.

There are ways to win without having a "pretty" redline but I think your downward slope is a bit too steep. Looking into smaller pots where you didn't VPIP and trying to work in some more check/raises and early street aggression will help slowly clean that up then you can start to work on bigger pots.

I am sure other guys will chime in with other good advice. I think you are on the right track and accepting the need for improvement is a good step in the right direction.

Sept. 30, 2020 | 11:03 p.m.

Stats look pretty solid. Four things I see at first glance:

1) VPIP in SB/BTN seem extremely low. Look to steal more from BTN and SB. Your SB winrate looks pretty good so you are doing something right. I think you can immediately make big strides if you look at spots where you are BB vs SB (only time you have position in a spot where you are forced to put $$$$ in with the BB). Look to 3b SB opens more and that 3b # will go up from 7%.

2) You can probably tone down the 3 bets from MP and CO (this position would be slight adjustment) vs early position opens and start to ramp up more in BTN vs CO and CO/BTN vs your blinds.

3) Look into your 4b/Call 3b numbers. A good rule of thumb is to defend @ 50% (this number is arbitrary) but somewhere in that vicinity. So with a Call 3b of @ 17% and a 4b+ of @ 7%, I am guessing that you might be substantially over folding to 3 bets (a big problem I had before and am still working on). Add the stat "2bet PF and fold" and see where you are. I am guessing it is like 65% maybe. Don't use "Fold to 3b" since that includes when you fold and didn't RFI.

5) Your CO winrate looks very low. I am guessing you might be getting 3b quite a bit by BTN and Blinds and are over folding (again, I had the same problem). I would look into that.

As for long downswings, they happen and they suck but it is part of the game. As you improve, you will be able to win more pots without showdown which will start to offset some of the loss rate.

Stick with it and focus on one thing at a time and try to get it squared away. I would set up custom tags in PT4 so you can mark hands as you review. For example, in the BB (You) vs SB (pool) dynamic, I would add a range for 3 betting vs a SB open in my filters, I would put myself in BB (Position 8) and I would add the first raiser as SB (Position 9) I would have zero limping in the hand so that the SB is and RFI. I would run the filter and see how many times I was dealt a hand inside the 3 betting range in total. Then I would add "3 bet made" and see how many times I 3b him with a hand that is "in Range".

The filter would look like this below:


Then, you highlight "3 bet made" and click "not selected" at the bottom and this will filter out all of the 3 bets you missed in the range you select. You can find good ranges all over the net (Zenith, Upswing, Etc.) for each position/dymanic. Snowie has good ranges to start with and they are free.

Here is what the filter looks like for when you didn't 3b a hand in your 3 betting range (missed 3b):


You can do stuff like this for each position, even your own RFI. You can catch yourself opening too wide UTG by doing this.

Hope this helps just a little.

Sept. 30, 2020 | 10:55 p.m.

I agree with all of this. You can essentially get to the turn with less than PSB left if you raise up to 15 to 17bb pre, bet 19 to 22 on flop. I think we a) give up too much value not betting turn and b) allow too many free cards/equity realization to hands that will call turn bets but would absolutely love to see a free river (KQ, Jx, etc.).

You will lose here sometimes by blasting off but it is best approach here IMO.

Sept. 29, 2020 | 12:53 a.m.

It is an interesting way of looking at this spot but it seems like it is going to be challenging to play in a balanced fashion (we have to shove some value to balance things and how do we choose the right combos?). While shoving the very top of our range is +EV it is likely not the most profitable way to play it. If we only make this play with stuff like A5s/A4s and 4b standard with other parts of our range, good players will catch on and make the adjustment.

Sept. 27, 2020 | 1:23 a.m.

Rake is too steep so I would eliminate all flat calls from SB vs any position. Vs. a wider BTN range just work on your 3 betting range. Figure out how often your 3 bets are successful (my 3b SB vs BTN success is about 40%), study your pools calling range in this spot and start to put together the right ratio of strong hands and weaker hand with potential.

Sept. 25, 2020 | 2:07 p.m.

Preflop seems fine.

Flop seems fine.

Turn kind of feels like a jam to me. I can't see his 4b range being too much wider than AA/KK/QQ/AKs/AKo/AQs and maybe A5/A4. Neither one of you will hit that board often at all. AKcc/AQcc/AKhh/AQhh are all still in range and I can see them checking here. He can easily be betting most of his range on the flop. So we have 18 combos of overpairs, two combos of trips (if he 4b A4s), 20 combos of AK/AQ. 6 FD combos of AK/AQ/A5 can call and put us in a dominating position. We will for sure have fold equity. We will have somewhere between 18 to 25% equity vs the entire range.

Sept. 25, 2020 | 2:01 p.m.

We can't make to many assumptions vs a guy that has been nitty over the course of under 5 orbits around the table. After 400 hands, we can begin to adjust more.

Your line seems perfectly fine here, especially at this stack depth (unless this is like a 50bb buy in table or something). I would tag MP/SB/UTG immediately "green" (color I use for short stack, and I generally assume fish until the show otherwise).

After 400/4000 hands of him running like that, I would just call the AK sometimes looking to keep in the weaker parts of his Ax range.

Sept. 25, 2020 | 1:15 p.m.

Haven't used driveHUD in quite some time so I can't speak to if they made some improvements since I last used it but I dumped it for PT4 and PT4 >>>> DriveHUD IMO.

PT4 does take some basic notes for you, allows color coding, etc. I think you can also run NoteCaddy with PT4 which is quite a program. I have not purchased NoteCaddy since it is kind of useless for anonymous games but it has real value in trackable environments. I used it before on America's Cardroom and liked it a lot.

Sept. 23, 2020 | 12:53 p.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on PIO basic vs PIO PRO

Mudkip I wish I could speak to that, but I have had PIO for a long long time and have not really tried GTO+. I think visually I like the appearance of PIO vs GTO+ but I am sure both are perfectly fine. GTO+ is less than $100 correct?

Sept. 22, 2020 | 5:08 p.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on AKo from the BB

Fold flop for this sizing. We have 99+, AKhh, AKcc that can continue here. Can probably peel a turn for a smaller sizing. This board texture is extremely bad for your hand here and it is quite good for his range.

Sept. 22, 2020 | 2:16 p.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on PIO basic vs PIO PRO

If $$$ is not an issue, go with the Pro version. The scripting is nice since you can set up your parameters (BB vs BTN in Single Raised Pot) and instead of manually creating boards one at a time, you can use a pre-determined set of flops (there are options for 20 flop, 150 flops, 1755 flops, etc.). You set the script to run and does one board after another until it is done. They are all stored nicely in one folder and you can run aggregation reports, etc. Like, say, you are doing a SB vs BB spot and you want to see how often, in aggregate, the SB is supposed to C-bet. Ranges are important here, I would use the pools call range and our BB open range. Say, PIO c bets 44% in aggregate but the pool c bets 65% overall. We know they are betting too often and can come up with strats to combat that.

The ease of not entering each board manually is worth the price alone.

Sept. 22, 2020 | 12:45 p.m.

I kind of like this idea but I like it less due to his stack depth. Are you planning on raise/calling off here?

As played, probably have to call it off here. He can still have enough bluffs/worse value (it's thin though).

Sept. 20, 2020 | 12:03 a.m.

darren2607 To be clear, I am referring to checking back on the turn. As played, you have to call this I think. If you re-open the betting, I would pick a different combo.

Sept. 15, 2020 | 5:56 p.m.

Something like 98dd, 87dd, 76dd comes to mind. Lower equity, but High Potential (still can catch up vs sets/2pr/rivered straights). Kxdd potentially makes a better bet when the turn goes x/c and river goes x/x. We can showdown and win vs his Qxdd draws.

It's almost like QJdd is too good to bluff and get blown off our equity but stabbing something weaker with potential doesn't sting as much when we face a x/r. The weaker hands with potential are typically better to bluff with.

Sept. 15, 2020 | 5:39 p.m.

You are going to see some weird s**t on Ignition. LOL. All we can do is embrace it ;)

Sept. 15, 2020 | 2:25 p.m.

Probably not the combo to re-open the betting with on the turn. I would call turn I think and try to drill the river. He is often going to hold blockers to the straight draw and can easily have some Kxdd here. If we call this raise and miss we are in a tough spot on the river having to bluff and we heavily block his folding range (we want him to have missed diamonds here).

That turn cuts our equity from @ 42% to @ 25%, however we still do have a pretty solid draw and we don't want to have to fold vs turn raises. We don't really have a lot of value here (AT/A2/22) so we don't have to bluff all that often to be balanced on the turn. I would pick different diamond combos and maybe some spades that turned the BDFD.

Sept. 15, 2020 | 2:07 p.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on Facing a 3b

RunItTw1ce Are you trying to add the stats to a HUD? Or are you just trying to figure out the position vs position 3 bets?

Sept. 15, 2020 | 1:37 p.m.

Yeah, I think I fold all diamond turns and the non diamond T/J/K. If we expand his range beyond 2pr+ for value on the flop, I am making the assumption that he will x/r the strongest of the 1 pair hands like AK (if he ever has it based on preflop), AJ and AT. In a passive pool, I can't see his value range expanding much beyond this.

So, back to the bet sizing. I like the size you chose if we were on the same board but a rainbow but in this situation bigger seems better to me looking to try to get it in on the flop before he improves. Losing him on later streets to scare cards isn't as big of a concern for me here since the only scare cards are diamonds really.

Sept. 13, 2020 | 3:41 p.m.

I agree with RunItTw1ce here.

Flop bet has to be bigger on a wet board like this. Bet bigger looking to rip it in with all 2pr+ on this flop. You are close to BE vs a 2pr+ & FD range. I imagine it will even be wider than that.


Sept. 13, 2020 | 2:21 p.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on Facing a 3b

I get it all from Hand2Note.I never tried to figure it out in PT4

Sept. 13, 2020 | 3:30 a.m.

CO had J7cc.....this is just how ignition plays Way to much calling.

You can almost just fold every time there is a raise and do just fine.

I seen you talking about the AA fold. Seems too tight vs your entire range but.......

Sept. 13, 2020 | 3:28 a.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on Facing a 3b

How wide does your pool 3b the BTN vs UTG? My pool 3b exactly 5.5%. The rock bottom of my pair calling range would be 88, and I might even be tighter. (has something like 36% vs said range).

Solved ranges are great, but if we are focusing on a solved range that is 8-9% but the environment is only 3b > 6%, we are going to get into trouble over defending. Also, rake is such a significant factor.

I am curious what the players your discussed this situation had to say. What was their stance?

Sept. 13, 2020 | 2:15 a.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on 100z 4bet spot

Jeff_ How is your continue range structured here preflop? You calling most of your continue range or 5 betting this guy? If we do play AA/KK/QQ this way, how are you playing turns in this spot?

Sept. 13, 2020 | 2 a.m.

We are on the same page for sure so far ;)


Sept. 13, 2020 | 1:42 a.m.

Comment | HawksWin commented on Top pair good kicker

Yeah, MW either check or bet smaller.

Sept. 13, 2020 | 12:47 a.m.

I am not a fan of posting entire hands because of the bias that can occur (especially when results get posted at the end). To me, this is the most interesting decision point of the hand when he leads (but of course that is just my opinion). I do agree with you that it plays best as a call most likely.

Here is where it gets weird.


Sept. 13, 2020 | 12:45 a.m.

Post | HawksWin posted in NLHE: TPTK + NFD in 3 way pot

For some reason it wont let me post the jpg so the hand is in the 1st Gyazo link


52 hands on both players. Both are passive and both have never 3b yet. Pools call % as CO is @ 16% (extremely high, but this is Ignition). SB typical range for flatting in this spot is like TT-22 and mostly stronger suited broadways.

At first glance this feels kind of easy but how are you reacting vs small donk from SB. CO will have the most flopped flushes here IMO. I have the exact range for CO call vs UTG if anyone wants to see it (click the Gyazo link and it will be there. Green range is CO 3b vs UTG and blue range is CO flat vs UTG).

This hand does go beyond the flop so I will fill in more details as we go.


Sept. 12, 2020 | 12:24 a.m.

You can just right click in the field of hands and then select "replay all hands". I think we are talking about the same thing.

Sept. 11, 2020 | 8:21 p.m.

If you go to the "Stats" tab, look for the button on the left that says "More Filters". Click that and that is where you will find all of the filters. Go to "actions and Opportunities" and then click "preflop" and the following filter will pop up. Just click "voluntarily put $ in pot" and you will see all vpip'd hands.


Sept. 11, 2020 | 12:43 p.m.

QQ is the only pair I am losing with there (for the year, I am winning overall historically). JJ/TT are doing well but QQ just hasn't been working out .

QQ is really the bottom of my "get it in" pre range for pairs and due to the tight nature of Ignition preflop play (3b/4b). I find myself up against AA/KK so often and then I am running just terribly in flip situations vs AK. QQ flops an overpair @ 50% of the time but in my sample I am up against overcards @ 60% of the time so I am running poorly with it for sure.

Sept. 11, 2020 | 12:29 p.m.

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