LazySummerDays

When you're talking about spots regarding mixed strategy (e.g. raise or limp on SB 87o @ 3:25), it would be nice if you could give your rough ballpark estimate on how often you would raise that spot.

Been grinding through your older content as well.

After watching this video, a spot at 1k Sunday Warm Up pt. 2 at around 14:03, struck me as one that would favor a bigger c-bet. Do you still agree with your sentiment of small bet on that K74o board, or would you go bigger nowadays?

Huge +1 for the second part!

I find that $16 to $47 bet peculiarly small. Can you try to give an estimate of your c-betting range on that spot? (I understood you have only a one sizing and not a mixed strategy here.) (My sizing, not based on any analysis whatsoever though, would've been around 20-22)

Isn't it tough to generate fold equity with that sizing, considering you would prefer folds with lower pairs/draws with no showdown value? From exploitative perspective I would understand the sizing if he incorrectly folds some high-hands to this sizing. What high card hands would you proceed to two barrel - or 3-barrel with? (AK for 3 streets seems bit optimistic even on good runouts, idk.)

Also, shouldn't you also have a 6-advantage - which would justify the bigger sizing - on the flop, no? Figured you'd open A6-65, 64s, 63s at least and he'd defend lot less offsuited 6 combos with maybe occasional 3-bet w/ K6s or so. If you do have a 6-advantage, then couldn't you bet bigger your entire range? Because I would assume villain has the flush draw advantage here and you want to charge that range?

So good.

+1
Wouldn't this be a better candidate for a c-r bluff given Villain is probably capped at straights, and we block straight & flush & QT.
Had Villain bet <$150 I would've leaned towards a call, not against $250 though.

Hey, I've been always wondering what do you say in the introduction? I always hear it "hey guys, this is bear wire for RIO.com".

Solid video, all around you're very articulate with your analysis.

Huh?
This is from GT, basically saying the same thing?
"I don't see the added benefit of making it 2.75x. A player like Lasagnaaammm will just be shoving even more over your opens if you make it bigger. Flatting is not very profitable for him due to ICM."

I don't see the logic why would you gain more from KuuL by opening 56222 vs 40k if you're raise-calling him off both times with exactly the same range? However 56k risks a lot more when both KuuL and lasagna decide to shove. This is just an out of the blue hunch but I would guess lasagna shoves over KuuL something like 55+/ATo+?

lasagna has to play pretty straightforward honest here. Without going into specific ranges I assume he has a shoving range consisting of hands that don't play well postflop but have clearly +EV ship (Ax/some pairs) which get even better price to shove over nearly 3x open. I'd assume lasagna's calling range is like 89s+ or two broadway cards, which are getting odds to call regardless of your sizing. Point being, with KuuL's supershort stack it's not like lasagna is going to able to see more flops OOP and start calling you down light. Idk what you think lasagna's bottom of the range for calling a minraise would be, but hands like 79o flopping Q93o have a very hard time getting to showdown on many runouts so it's easier to just fold pre.

However, an upside for betting bigger I'd guess is that you gain more from c-betting when he elects to call like KJo and check-fold on a blank flop. Although I don't know how much good it will do on average because his calling range is probably around 50% vs. your opening range.

FWIW, not sure if I'm a fan of lasagnas style at all esp. @ 24:15. Having to minraise-fold hands like KJo, A7o in his shoes just seems like burning money. I prefer a limp-strategy in that spot.

@29:00 I guess you don't have 5-bet bluffing range since I think A5s is "the" hand to do it. That said, absolutely dislike the idea of burning A5s' equity on a 3b/fold just like you said in the video.

Like your cash game videos a lot, but I think your MTT game is a little tacky. Would prefer to see cash game vids from you as it's your strong ground.

Nothing bad to say since I've been acknowledged fan of your vids for a while. You shouldn't probably worry too much about Value Bluffing pt. 2 not receiving comments. I watched it too, but it's one of those types of videos where you can take things for granted. Just like if you were reading MoP you can take the examples given as granted and there's not much discussion to be had. It's pretty obvious that live videos or hand history reviews receive a lot more feedback, because things and assumptions presented in them are more open for discussion.

Although I do understand that these types of videos and slide shows can be exhausting for some % of RIO'ers because a watcher cannot really lose his train of thought any time during the video or otherwise the rest of the video will be difficult to watch.

Cheers bud!

Why do you bet only 450 to 675 on the turn @ 29:00?
Shouldn't you be very polarized in this spot?

J7s is definitely possible, but it's only one combo. Don't think treezer is bad enough to c-r 74s here, J4s is counterfeited obv.

I'm 95% I can open this hand winningly against this lineup. (350 in antes, doesn't show in converter.) There are plenty of jacks I check this flop, (QdJx, QxJd, JxTd, JdTx and occasionally AdJx, KdJx), this being not one of them it's a bet IMO.

EDIT: Just realized I'm contradicting myself a bit by assuming he might c-r AJ, but not 74s. First instinct was that with 74s he doesn't want to play guessing game for 2 streets OOP when often a card above 8 or flush hits. 74s can still check-raise some turns for value, where as AJ would valuecut itself.

Dig it! I think you're pretty one of a kind coach on RIO with your theoretical approach so definitely +1 for more parts. This might be too much of "essential program" stuff, but would it be too much to ask if you'd build one time a CREV tree on the fly? Or does it take just too much time from the actual content? I purchased CREV earlier this year, but I just can't get my head around that program and I haven't managed to produce any solutions with it yet.

I've always been curious about simulator syntaxes. When you have him leading, let's say 100% KTs and ATs, does this mean 1 combos of each (AcTc & KcTc) using CREV? I've always thought the programs don't do a difference between suited hands depending on board texture, meaning that when you put ATs in the grid it'll treat them as 4 combos, so you'd have to manually edit the program input so that villain leads x% AcTc, y% AsTs and z% AdTd & AhTh (where z=0 or greater).

Vid delivers as usual, these theoretical ones seem to be your strong ground. You've quickly become my #1 favorite RIO coach. Will prob have to keep subscription going if you keep publishing videos on a weekly basis. :-)

I've enjoyed your previous HU vids, but I think this was pretty dull because the hands in the footage seemed pretty standard (=you had a lot of hands and it's rarely wrong to bet those). And even if there's something noteworthy to talk about some basic spots in greater depth, it's hard to do with a live play & commentary.

@31:00
When you opt to call 79o on the turn, aren't you concerned that the board is a bit draw heavy? Meaning that you won't get to raise clubs & paired rivers and also lose out some value against made hands that would bet-call turn but check-fold on bad rivers? Also I would've raised 79 here for the 9% gutter freeroll and opted to slowplay another 7x instead. (I don't think we get otherwise stacks in with this SPR on an 8 river.)

Also, when you take the call turn/raise river line, what hands would you bluff on the river? 89 would be my obvious guess? Personally, I think I'm often too unbalanced to take this line.

(Would you c-bet 78o on the flop 100% because you want to potentially build a 3-street game vs another 7x when turn is a 6? Hence meaning that your range is capped to 7-high straights on the turn.)

This was hands down the best NLHE vid on RunItOnce so far. Keep it up.

Yeah, +1 for Holdem Resources vid. Would be more than welcome.

Last autumn I tried to run some 4-bet shoving simulations with no luck. What I wanted to do was to paste a hand and see what hands I could profitably ship in, given I assign villain a certain 3-b range. (Can Holdem Resources do this? I also tried to modify stack sizes of the given hand a bit to see how it would affect our ranges, can you show how to do this also?)

When you talk about flatting or 3-betting AK around @1:20, what kind of frequencies you would usually go with? Let's say UTG opens, you're in hijack, cutoff or button, would your frequency to 3-bet increase or decrease towards later positions if it's folded to you? (My guess would be to increase) Would you use the same frequency for both AKs and AKo?

@10:50
I was quite surprised by the A6s fold, given it was OTB and potentially multiway. What are your Axs flatting hands here? Seemed kinda tight in my eyes, considering e.g. flatting the 3b @28:45 with K7s which seemed quite contrary to tight.

@11:43

You bet 77 on the smaller side. You probably need some stronger hands in your range with this sizing to justify a bet with 77 so that you won't get check-raised off so often, right? What are those stronger hands you would usually have here? QJ, JcTc etc?

Dislike the 66 bluff @00:49. I feel like his range contains a lot more 8x and made flush combos than yours, as 66 blocks a lot of midstrength/two-pairish hands that could check-call both flop+turn.

Especially when you timebank river all the way down to near zero, it kinda let's away that you really had a decision whether to bet or not.


@3:53: My first instinct was to check back flop cause everything above 8 is an ok turn for us. What kind of overcard hands would you check back here?

@6:27: Idk whether you have a check-raising range on river or not, but wouldn't this be one of the better hands in our c-r bluffing range?

@25:31: Wanna open a little why this is good a overbet flop texture? It seems like a texture where he'd probably check-call all Ax/Qx/Jx/Tx fd-combos + every Kx atleast one street. Actually I thought the T was kind of a good barreling card when overbetting 64o, because I don't think it really hits villain besides Tx dd?

Hmm, not quite cause it doesn't show how big of a stack we have still have on the river.

When SPR>13 on the flop, we need to slide in an overbet at some point to get our stack in. So with the chart I could play around with the betting fractions and see what kind of betting pattern seems most sensible if we want to end up shoving the river. Chart works also for check-raises, you'd just put the total number of bets to that variable. (E.g. pot is 1 on the flop, villain bets 0,5, we check-raise to 1,5 and villain calls. This would equal to us just betting 1,5x times the pot on the flop and villain calling.)

Ever since Sauce & Gandalf talked about overbetting the flop in some vid, it made me realize I need to work on some SPR math.

Well, ZenFish is correct in the sense that if two players are playing GTO-roshambo or poker, then it is a strategy pair where two strategies maximally exploit each other where neither player can unilaterally improve.

I would be grateful if someone who is more apt in applications of GTO could comment on this one.

(FWIW, terminology behind exploitative and optimal play are defined in MoP.)

No. GTO is a strategy that guarantees you the EV of the game. Which in zero-sum games, like roshambo and poker, is zero (duh).

In roshambo a GTO equilibrium is a distribution of (1/3, 1/3, 1/3). If our villain would deviate from the equilibrium we could change to a maximally exploitative strategy - most likely (1, 0, 0). However, if we choose not to adapt and continue to play GTO equilibrium our EV remains at 0 - which is not maximally exploitative against an uneven distribution.

Woop, I enjoyed this vid more than any other I've seen on this site so far!

I like how you have a very solid reasoning for every decision you make and articulate it well. (e.g. J9o @ 4min & K2o @ 24min) I think the J9o was a neat example how to decide what hands to start bluffing with/check back based on the board texture, and I learned quite a lot from it.

Can't really think of anything negative to say, except one or two times you kinda spaced out in the middle of sentence and moved on to another hand, but that's how live vids sometimes are I guess. Happy holladays!

Just not a very good video, sorry. Hard to follow when you don't show replays of the hands, but instead talk them through.

In the first hand analysis you said: if our equity is 52% against villain's range, we have an +EV against him. How so? (Or did it mean that we beat 52% of his combos and he is always calling? Didn't really understand what you were aiming to.)

Results?