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July 31, 2019 | 6:48 p.m.

I'm going to be streaming this month on twitch. I will be donating 50% of my earnings from streamer rewards directly to Local Malnurished Dawgz. Please come support my twitch and support a local Thai Street Dog. Thank you.
https://www.twitch.tv/aomishot22
Every hour viewed streaming on GG poker ultimately results in $0.25 going to feed hungry.
2,000 Hours Viewed = $400 donation
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20,000 Hours Viewed = $5,000 or more donated
In addition to all of this, 100% of money made from twitch subscriptions from Aug 1st-Aug 31 will be donated to feeding hungry thai street dogs.
Once the money is in, I will be making a youtube video of feeding all of the dogs with the donations. If we are able to raise $5,000 for the dogs, think about how many KG of chicken they get to eat? haha That's over 2,000KG of chicken for my dawgs!

July 31, 2019 | 6:46 p.m.

hery bro watched the video it was awesome thanks so much! i learned a lot about don't try to randomize vs recreationals and whatever, i normally just randomilize everything from preflop in 6max vs whoever because it's easier so i'm not doing something too often etc but yee good shout, also that call with AK on the river where you said his sizing and timing was stupid fast probably not a bluff that was really god point, like i just didn't have any flush blockers and my hand is like litterally never a fold in a million years in my mind, but you brought some new light to that and you bring up really really good poits about his sizing nd timning etc. yeee i'm likely too much in this auto piolet mode of 'that hand is a call, call, rather than attempting to go the extra level and think about it a bit deeper etc. i really appriciate your review Nuno, thanks again!

July 25, 2019 | 1:32 a.m.

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July 21, 2019 | 9:49 p.m.

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June 27, 2019 | 12:14 a.m.

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June 26, 2019 | 10:59 a.m.

Truly the funniest comment I've seen anyways in a long time lol

June 16, 2019 | 8:19 p.m.

TT just pure folding river. You're in the bottom 30% of ur range here, and a hand like 99 or 66 is gonna be a better call just due to blockers, and quite a better call I might add.
River you're going to end up needing to x/r at least 10% maybe up to 20% of ur range, with means u don't need to defend so much and you get to defend so many Jx on river (even maybe mixing fold with some Jx, if ur blocking some of their bluffing range example AJ (blocking some of the frequent bet/check/bet bluffs from the suited Ace region and AK,AT region)
This hand just seems like it's never a call. Actually it might be like bottom 10% or 20% of ur range given blockers and what not.

June 16, 2019 | 7:06 p.m.

Comment | Paid_To_Laid commented on SB vs CO 3bet pot

preflop seems good, could go slightly larger depending on ur strategy and frequency but all good in the hood
flop, generally this sizing is used a bit less often, a lot of 1/3 is going on, but 1/2 is fine as well, just one thing to say is we should actually try to balance our flop sizing and not just bet big with the nuts and bet smaller with crap hands
turn is a mix, and really probably quite a few different sizings and up being appropriate I think mostly though 25%-50% make the most sense on this turn with ur specific hand and in addition to that with a lot of hands in ur range (maybe like AsAx, or KsKx want larger bets and u can ballance with AJ occationally but a lot of hands being bet here make sense to just go with the sizing scheme ur doing.
River I'd just shove, optimally this hand is gonna mix and like AsJx will probably be the pure shove, but yeah I mean people in reality aren't gonna call enough hands like JsJx,TsTx, QJ,QT blah blah. I'd go for the shove and be thrilled, also people will raise some of their flushdraws on flop and raise some flushes on turn which increase the EV of ur river shove.

June 16, 2019 | 7 p.m.

Preflop standard
Flop fairly high EV board for you're range here, a lot of cbetting is fine, pure check can also be fine, mixing can be fine, lots of strategies make sense depending on the competition of IP's range and how they will actually play their range in various nodes.
Turn seems like a fairly high frequency check espeically with exactly AdKd. Anyways once you end up checking turn you really should be playing a much more defensive strategy, and it doesn't even make much sense for him to use a large bet, and when he does you certainly don't have many if any raises here, and blocking a K, it's not really the handclass you tend to raise. When you're checking turn IP is forced to put in all kinds of money with hands like QJ,JT, suited aces, all sorts of shit, and honestly this raise just doesn't accomplish much, feels much higher EV to call turn than to raise for the reasons stated above.
I won't go past that given I think you really shouldn't be in this spot in the first place and the hand is played quite poorly on turn

June 16, 2019 | 6:45 p.m.

as far as blocks and whatever you can block something like AA, or 88, or TT or 99. maybe even some 4x at a small frequency, I think JJ is just a clear large bet

June 16, 2019 | 6:38 p.m.

Flop I don't think u really gain EV by having a cbet strategy, and probably just add more complexity than you need.
Once you actually do end up cbetting flop though and potting turn, on the river you should have a fairly clear large bet, especially if IP is raising too many of the sets, or if he is pure 3betting the AA-QQ region and not having any sort of slow plays etc. Even if Ip pure raised sets and whatever on flop you still have a pretty clear large bet for value. IP has to call a lot of 8x here, some hands like even AQ, mix most of his pairs blah blah blah, also bluff raise some of his 2x and 8x (which he isn't doing enough i'd assume), yeah I mean pretty clear large bet on river.

June 16, 2019 | 6:36 p.m.

when u shove river IP needs to call a lot of weaker hands (various 9x),JJ,88-44, QT, JT, blah blah. EV seems fairly close though.
I didn't actually see how deep you were in this spot, so I apologize. Maybe though given that you're deeper ranges change and bit and he isn't hero call certain hands he needs to and in addition that he might end up showing up with a much higher frequency of TT,99,AK than he would at like around 100bb, blah blah, but even that being said I don't think the spot changes at ton, but if you want to stick this into your check/call range, I see the merits.

June 16, 2019 | 6:28 p.m.

yeah if blinds are weak, u certainly wanna get into hands with them quite a bit. King10Clubs has been known to open hands as weak as 72s from MP vs a whale BB, and the logic simply is the BB is really weak, people aren't 3betting enough, and he's going to way over realize given the recreational player in the BB.

June 16, 2019 | 6:21 p.m.

Preflop solvers and high stakes players tend to use much lager 3bets in this sitution, it's a spot you're not nearly as linear as a sitution like SBvBTN. You're preflop range benifits a lot more from larger 3bets, also some people would argue playing deeper you want to use even larger 3bet sizes (i think that's more debatable, actually some would argue smaller is better{like ur sizing})
Flop with KK, any KK is generally using large bets, I would assume given we can't just use big bets with our range exactly KhKd will end up using the smaller bets more than any other KK, but I think your KK region really wants to use a lot of big bets.
Turn blocking a lot of his stabs blah blah blah with KhKd I think ur probably close to pure continuation bet with this combination. I generally assume betting larger than half pot is better. I don't know exactly what sizing is optimal but with what we are actually going to be betting and representing and whatever I'd assume we mostly would be doing a lot of like 60-80% betting.
Once we are raised in this sitution, it's kinda awkward in the sense IP isn't supposed to basically ever raise Jx here, but ur sizing is kinda weak and you'll see some people occationally raise like AJ,KJ to make the hand easier and check the river, whatever their logic is. Optimally though I'd assume blocking Kd ur probably gonna have to fold sometimes, and in reality, not optimal world, but explo world people are really really not bluffing enough spade combinations to really warrent you continuing (assuming they aren't raising Jx), so i'd think this hand optimally mixes, but I'd mostly fold turn if I thought they weren't raising Jx (or almost never raising Jx) on turn.
Basically though I don't think people bluff raise enough hands like A9 or A4, and certainly don't bluff raise enough draws IP on turn, so yee just folding (again assuming they don't have much Jx in their range, and honestly idk what people are doing in these games) but obviously a disaster if he raises AJ,KJ at any decent frequency IP because he thinks ur sizing is weak or just because weaker players tend to do weird stuff in order to 'make the hand easier'

June 16, 2019 | 6:20 p.m.

Yeah this is a dream spot to play against literally couldn't play against an easier opponent. ur life is made incredibly easy and the EV of ur opens and stuff goes up an absolute shit ton. and depending on the rake ur having to pay and the cap u can do a few different things with limping and what not, but likely rake isn't very relevant when u have someone with these kind of frequencies.

If I'm you personally, I'm literally never going to open a hand I'm ever going to fold to a 3bet.
Also never going to limp a hand I am going to fold either. I might even scrap the limping all together, but i think it's probably very close and some of ur weaker hands like specifically ur Kx offsuit region, and some of ur offsuit connectors and then weaker suited hands ur not really loving getting 3bet I'd do some limping because ur just gonna have plus EV limp calls in these spots if ur play competent post flop.
In terms of the RFI strategy and whatever, I would just raise something close to 50% of hands, and when facing 3bets and I'm doing a lot of 4bet shoving (this is assuming you're opening to like 2.5x or larger, and OOP is 3betting you about 3x ur original raise). Against someone who is 3betting like 75% and whatever even if he is calling correctly vs ur 4bet shoves, the EV of opening a hand like 74s, and then jamming over a 3bet is still going to be a small bit higher than straight up folding, same is basically for almost anything in the top 50% of hands. With my top end stuff generally i'd just be 4betting a smaller sizing like 70-80% pot (and certainly adjustments making it larger make a lot of sense depending on the elasticity of certain hands in his range)
Basically you need to fold preflop like 35-45% here, and then when u raise u need to continue. obviously if this dude sees u 4bet shoving every single hand, it's possible he's gonna adjust his strategy, but then you can adjust accordingly. I think playing more then 65-70% of hands vs this dude is really not warranted. Thinking about it now I might just scrap the entire limping stratey and purely play a RFI strategy given we are getting a lot more money in the pot, and basically that is what we want when we are RFIing a much stronger range than the 75%, even with some of our slightly more marginal hands RvR you're going to end up playing the spot fine, but yeah I'm litterally never playing a hand as a limp or RFI and folding in a million years to this strategy and i'm 4bet shoving and just 4betting a shit ton, also if this dude is actually 3betting 75% and he's only 3betting 3x, hands like 97o are going to be significantly better as calls vs 3bets then folds, i mean probably close to 100bb/100 difference (1bb/hand which is a big freaking deal obviously lol, 100bb/100, maybe even slightly more i'm not sure but it's worth a lot). espiecally if ur playing better then him postflop which seems hard not to if you're actually here talking about strategy on RIO

June 16, 2019 | 6:01 p.m.

Preflop sizing is pretty freaking small. Flop u can do a lot of things and ultimately what u really want to make sure u don't do is just bet ur good hands big and ur bad hands small. There is a 25-35% on the flop but this specific hand can do some larger bets occationally I think as well as mix in the occational check but generally when u have QQ without the BDFD u really are insentived to stick money in quicker, and actually larger sizings (half pot, 2/3pot, all in whatever) can make some sense with ur exact combo.
Turn seems like u basically need to mix between shove and the sizing u chose, but again not blocking the flushdraw mostly choosing shove with this combo make sense.
River is like a super clear shove, not sure how we end up checking this combination. Anyways obviously we are always calling river if we some how found a check. standard stuff

June 16, 2019 | 5:34 p.m.

preflop is fine, sizing looks good depending on the frequency in which u end up 3betting in this spot. flop given ur larger size 3bet and generally more narrow range, there are some larger gets on this texture to really capture the most EV with this sort of AA,AK region, but ultimately it's pretty hard to balance and I'd assume you're not balanced in this situation with ur sizing, and AK will mix many sizings anyways from 20% pot to slight overbet. generally though a lot of 25-35% pot is an easier strategy to execute.
Turn with ur specific ace of diamond there is probably close to a pure check unblocking their BDFD and blocking their Axdd combos that ur 'scared' of the most, also their Kx is forced to reopen turn a hell of a lot, basically this combos seems like a check, but at these stakes, generally once u end up taking this larger flop sizing and they call, in explo world you likely are doing better just betting larger vs this dude. He probably doesn't reopen enough Kx on turn, and may or may not be floating all of the backdoors he should on flop and might not even end up bluffing them which really hurts the EV of checking something like AdKx here.

June 16, 2019 | 5:27 p.m.

Comment | Paid_To_Laid commented on hand feedback

preflop is a fold in this rake environment, even in 100nl or 200nl it's basically zero EV, with this rake it's a fold and with CO cold caller it's a fold (unless you think you're making some exploits post flop and regaining EV which is debatable)
Flop you really need to pure check, the BB 3way has absolutely no leads, u have the weakest range on the flop, and the lost realization, ur getting a slightly discounted price preflop and ur just supposed to play a more defensive strategy in this sitution. doesn't make sense to lead here in the world that I live in.

June 16, 2019 | 5:17 p.m.

I don't really see any question to the hand, pretty standard, preflop is very questionable if ur paying like 7bb/100 in rake or whatever 50nl is. probably the open is loosing 0.01bb or 0.02bb/100 (assuming people play optimally, and yourself included you play optimally)

June 16, 2019 | 5:14 p.m.

river you're going to need to mix this combo and probably at low stakes mostly fold/pure fold, especially given ur percieved range blah blah blah people don't bluff enough.
turn u need to call a decent frequency of the 2x, and u should have a lot of 2x here, A2o should get to river close to 100% in this action sequence, and then some K2 blah blah, don't really see how x/shoving here is making really any sense. ur hand is probably zero EV vs optimal opponent on river to call/fold, and something. Something like exactly A2 here blocking some of the frequent 6x and blocking AQ,AA, unblocking more of their bluffing range (having a T really isn't good) is probably a thing, and honestly if u bluff all in with all of ur A2 ur fucking way way over bluffing, espeically if ur raising turn with even a little bit of 5x on turn, even if u pure call 5x, given ur shove sizing, if you bluff all of ur A2o and A2s(A2s that don't 3bet pre), ur going to be overbluffing. properties of ur hand lead toward a fold. Pretty simple spot to fold at these stakes and frankly the shove is pretty terrible for what it's worth just having a T, and having a Q.
Blockers are very relevent in these spots and in a spot where maybe you only end up actually getting to river with something like 10-20 combos or trips (frankly maybe less depending on ur preflop strategy and turn raising strategy, u need to be very very careful, and very selective in ur river bluffs, given u aren't allowed to have many

June 16, 2019 | 5:11 p.m.

Comment | Paid_To_Laid commented on nl200z 3way

Jeff_ yeah they do lol i do it all the time

June 16, 2019 | 11:59 a.m.

Comment | Paid_To_Laid commented on nl200z 3way

yeah i mean just bet like infinite on the river 400% or 300% pot and he'll fold, easy game

June 14, 2019 | 3:28 p.m.

how much do u have? i'm all in

June 14, 2019 | 8:40 a.m.

i bluff all rivers always, that's GTO

June 14, 2019 | 8:40 a.m.

just shove who cares, screw it have fun yolo seriously jawbless

June 14, 2019 | 8:39 a.m.

yeah absolutely, and for me personally, all i see if flush, even weaker flush and i want to shove. this is how my mind works, i have a flush, shove lol. but yeah i gotta think about it for a few more seconds hahaha.

June 13, 2019 | 8:05 a.m.

yee read ur comments earlier. great hand to post and talk about, and very much appreciate it. And I agree with everything you just wrote. I was just kinda writing this because I think a lot of people can look on the surface of stuff and see 'good flush shove, beating tons of valuebets' and this is how i look at it as well, but i must challenge my own thought process blah blah. haha yeah great post anyways and hope to see more.

June 12, 2019 | 5:32 p.m.

if his 6c6x, and KcQx fold here at any decent frequency i don't seeing our shove being good by any stretch of imagination, i see it as being fucking bad lol. bad in reality, not bad in the 'oh lets pretend we can play GTO land' Really though, lets attempt to sit in OTB's shoes for a minute, and see what he sees from the BB, is he really gonna see the BB finding enough bluffs to warrant calling some of his weaker valuebets on the river without a blocker? I'd say no. Is he really gonna expect people to be bluffing enough in this node to bet/call 6c6x a lot(if he even uses that flop sizing often, maybe his sizing is slightly imbalanced once he gets to the river and doesn't just have this optimal range, maybe his flop sizing is slightly imbalanced and arrives here with more flushes or visa versa) I tend to think people have imbalances everywhere and as professionals (even if he's OTB whatever who cares, we need to look at his intensives vs 500z people and his perception of 500z people, he's obviously gonna change his play slightly whether that be with flop strategy(probably not), or actually more so in river bet/call situations with what hands to actually bet/call and what hands to bet/fold, he's gonna be playing differently at some level, and it's our job to figure that out and attempt to play our best vs him. No one is a bot, we gotta live in reality
honestly though i don't really care about the solution, i just thinking a bit more deeply about the situation is better if we discuss a HH seriously.

June 12, 2019 | 3:22 a.m.

I get the fact that it looks like a no brainier shove on the surface, as many things in NLH do obviously, but i don't think the EV is a ton higher to shove than call. I haven't piod it so maybe i should before i make myself look stupid, but his river range for valuebetting should be pretty freaking narrow, i don't even think two pairs should be valuebetting river, nor would he have many in this action sequence, also if sets are the weaker end of his value betting range, and his sets to call are going to be like 6c6x,4c4x, i don't know how much they really want to call when they are blocking decent portions of our potential perceived bluffing range. In addition to that it feels ridiculous unlikely ur average (and sorry to use general words about a player pool rather then talk about specific individuals)...ur average 500z reg is going to be able to find enough bluffs in the BB's range, like really lets get fucking real for a second, with the mettagame at 500z people really really don't enjoy bluffing into uncapped ranges lol, at least this is my experience, and people tend to skew a lot more passive in some of these situations than optimal play would suggest. I don't know what KQ is doing on the river vs a shove but i'd assume mostly folding non blockers, and calling KcQx, and KxQc. Hell he might not even want to call these hands because again they are blocking some of the frequent bluffs from the BB Qc9x,Kc9x. I obviously sound fishy to someoen blindly looking at a pio simulation but playing in these games a little bit, generally doesn't feel like people are finding nearly enough bluffs in this spot and i don't know if OTB is really finding some of the thinner bet/calls. If that's the case probably shove is not 'easy shove', probably we'd need to do some math and figure out if we are actually getting called by a range we have beat 50% of the time or more. Obviously we can just play a good strategy and make money and shove this hand, but I think being aware of reality is likely a good idea in this specific situation.
I'm certainly not a fan of just a shove because it's standard. I'd like to go more deep and see what his minimum value is (not only optimally but also in this pool with mettagame), and what his weaker bet/calls are, rather than saying 'standard lol we have Qxcc

June 12, 2019 | 3:03 a.m.

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