So I think the only decision point worth talking about is river obviously. Don't see a need to raise flop/turn or is that an option? We do block AK/AQ here and a lot of bdfd combos but I'm not sure if this is a board that will be bluffed much at all. Probably much lower bluffing frequency than a solver would suggest.
March 1, 2019 | 12:16 a.m.
Also in hindsight here I think his sizing is noteworthy on an individual basis but also is probably something the population do a bit more. Like he has a value hand he wants to bet but he doesn't want to go too big, whereas a stronger and less vulnerable value hand like KK I feel they'd bet bigger ironically. Slap bang half pot on both flop and turn. See fish do that with medium strength hands all the time.
Feb. 22, 2019 | 9:31 p.m.
So I don't really think there is much discussion here, my response is to just shrug and stick it in. We have too much equity vs most probable ranges I guess. What I'm curious about really is what villain is doing here, I have him labelled as a fish but no idea why. I've seen quite a few regs make these kind of massive overbets though. Is it some kind of awful attempt at an exploit? Like can this ever be good? I assume he has no read on me or any reason to do this.
Feb. 20, 2019 | 11:19 p.m.
Sorry can't convert these HH's on here. No real reads, I have villain tagged as a fish but don't know why. No hud stats allowed. I think the pre flop, flop and turn action are all pretty much mandatory and anyone else would play them the same? So then it's just a case of do we jam/bet river and try to push him off a 1 pair hand or just give up?
Feb. 20, 2019 | 11:10 p.m.
Sorry to have to post the Raw HH but RIO can't convert their own hands just yet :D
Villain in this hand seems like a reg. I can't see any other option than just bet/folding river for value from Kx hands. Doubt he can have many bluffs here so I'm crushed.
Run It Once Poker Hand #30591556: Hold'em No Limit (€0.10/€0.20) - 2019/02/07 11:00 UTC [2019/02/07 12:00 CET]
Table ID '30583217' 6-Max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Jacob H (€31.33 in chips)
Seat 2: Evan B (€81.54 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO (€36 in chips)
Seat 5: Daniel S (€41.13 in chips)
Seat 6: Kenneth O (€30.71 in chips)
Daniel S: posts small blind €0.10
Kenneth O: posts big blind €0.20
* HOLE CARDS
Dealt to HERO [Ac Ad]
Jacob H: folds
Evan B: raises €0.30 to €0.50
HERO: raises €1.00 to €1.50
Daniel S: folds
Kenneth O: folds
Evan B: calls €1
FLOP [Kc 6s 2c]
Evan B: checks
HERO: bets €1.33
Evan B: calls €1.33
TURN [Kc 6s 2c] [Tc]
Evan B: checks
poncheezied: bets €3.21
Evan B: calls €3.21
RIVER [Kc 6s 2c Tc] [Td]
Evan B: checks
HERO: bets €8.44
Evan B: raises €67.06 to €75.50
Evan B: mucks hand
Evan B: mucks hand
Uncalled bet (€67.06) returned to Evan B
Evan B collected €27.58 from pot
Total pot €29.26 | Rake €1.68
Board [Kc 6s 2c Tc Td]
Seat 1: Jacob H folded before Flop
Seat 5: Daniel S (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Kenneth O (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: HERO (button) folded during River
Seat 2: Evan B mucked hand and won €27.58
Feb. 7, 2019 | 11:08 a.m.
So I'm pretty lost for ranges in this spot. I guess he can check the flop with a set and possibly play the same way with AK? I don't see there being many bluffs in his range but we're surely towards the top of ours and have to call?
Are we c/c turn with much of a frequency?
Jan. 25, 2019 | 12:48 p.m.
So again I'm a bit unsure of ranges, am I being a nit here by thinking I might be beat? Can he play AQ/AK the same way? I think the way he played it with his actual hand is pretty good (especially if I'm considering a fold it's good vs me) but I just wasn't expecting there to be too many of these semi bluffs in his range.
Jan. 25, 2019 | 12:44 p.m.
Villain is a Ukranian reg, I don't have stats as no HUDs allowed. I don't see anyone semi bluffing by making a small turn raise here. It just looks like either a straight or higher set raising to get it in/protect. Don't think 2 pair would play this way either and most of them he wouldn't be raising pre. Maybe just 87s and T8s.
Easy fold or am I missing something?
Jan. 24, 2019 | 9:18 p.m.
Alright so I'm thinking he won't just shove too many flopped flushes and could be on something like AcQx or some kind of combo draw/2p etc basically vs his get in range on flop I think we should be +EV here?
Jan. 14, 2019 | 11:19 a.m.
So I think the hand is standard up until the river, maybe my sizings are a bit too small throughout? I can't see how he can c/c then turn a hand into a bluff here although maybe it's possible with fish. I felt like it's just a slowplayed set/2p or he's backed into a flush somehow.
Jan. 7, 2019 | 4:58 p.m.
I'm not super happy about this QJ9r flop. It smashes his 3b flatting range and I don't think we have much of a range advantage here. For that reason I think maybe I should be checking here a lot with my range and this hand also?
Like even here where I bet and get a semi safe turn (I think?) I'm still unsure whether I can be value betting. Once he makes that min raise it just looks like a straight or 2p trying to get me to commit.
Jan. 7, 2019 | 4:50 p.m.
So the limp behind pre is a bit risky given the SB small stack but both are fish so I thought implied odds would maybe make the EV on this slightly better than folding.
My initial plan was to bet/fold river but then I talked myself into believing he could c/r a 2p hand given he's a fish and it's a limped pot. Is that an inaccurate assumption? I guess also sometimes there might be some missed FD's turning into a bluff but feel like this is probably an underbluffed spot.
Jan. 7, 2019 | 4:47 p.m.
So I know my call pre is a bit loose but the blinds are both fish, no stats on their 3b tendencies as such but they don't stand out as aggro. Is this basically always a flush on river for this size bet and he's trying to extract max value from a 5x or T9 that can't fold?
I don't see what hands he would call twice here with then turn into a bluff either. And even if he is taking a weird line betting T9 we're still beat. Don't think he does this with 5x to push u off a chop so it's just a huge negative freeroll and easy fold?
Jan. 7, 2019 | 4:43 p.m.
Mancuso so you would find a fold here? I totally agree that I find it very hard for them to have bluffs. Maybe I should be deviating to make what gto would consider a tight fold given this is probably just some random fish with no bluffing range.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:59 p.m.
So even though we're pretty far up in our range here I still can't see us being too far ahead of his c/r range if we assume there won't be too many FD's or bluffs. The fold does feel overly tight given we picked up a gutshot but the FD does reduce our equity if he is semi bluffing with it sometimes as well. I don't think people are c/r these boards in a 3b pot light, maybe I'm wrong. I know hud stats or a read would make this easier but it's zoom on a site with no huds which makes everything harder.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:27 p.m.
So I'm not sure if I should bet turn for value here, I feel like I should given the amount of draws he can have esp it being multiway pre. River he can still be turning a missed draw into a bluff although the sizing did look like a value bet trying to get a crying call from overpairs. I'm not so sure he'd bluff with that same sizing.
Jan. 2, 2019 | 6:24 p.m.
So I'm thinking he wouldn't be open raising too much 6x and then flatting the 3bet pre. I also don't see a ton of semi bluffs in his range and even if they were they might not always just c/c flop, they might c/r some % of the time giving them less weight. 88 doesn't need to c/r turn. Does a random villain really c/r here with like 99-JJ though? That said how can I fold?
Jan. 2, 2019 | 5:53 p.m.
belrio42 Villain is 4betting from the BB mate so I think that your range assumptions will be maybe too tight? Sorry I can't post the HH on here, I know it makes it more difficult. Blame RIO for not converting from one of the top Poker sites though :D
Jan. 1, 2019 | 7:38 p.m.
Yeah fair point maybe AQ and JJ won't 4bet here pre. What do you think is a realistic range for him to 4b me here pre readless? These are the spots I'm most confused by really like pre-flop ranges.
Happy New Year to you too.
Jan. 1, 2019 | 10:43 a.m.
So I don't think I can do anything differently here but just wanted to check really. 3b pre is mandatory as is the flop call vs shove. And also the cb feels mandatory. Is there any way to play this for higher EV?
Dec. 31, 2018 | 5:09 p.m.
So I'm curious about the iso pre, I think it's fine given the BB is a reg and UTG is a fish, so we want to isolate him with a hand that plays really well vs any range really.
Most interesting part for me is whether we check the flop or cbet. If we c/c we can keep in hands that we are doing really well against that decide to bluff.But with that said I can't see a random bluffing too much here if we do check.
Betting flop acts like a semi bluff in that we can fold out hands that are technically ahead of us and have good equity but won't bet if we check. This also builds the pot for the times we do hit.
When he ships it in I see no alternative obv but to stack off.