Hey everyone, got some different opinions on this so asking the masses. $10/$10+$10bba live game, stacks $2100 effective, not many reads on villain other than he FT'd a massive event a few years ago and he 3B the very previous hand when in BB. Played less than an hour because game broke.
Hero (BTN): 9d8d
4 folds, Hero opens to $40, villain 3B to $160, Hero calls...
Flop: 10d 7c 2d
Villain bets $140, Hero calls...
Villain checks, Hero...?
Seems like we have a few options here. What do y'all think?
Also, in game I didnt really consider raising flop but I'm maybe we can depending on villain?
June 23, 2021 | 11:01 p.m.
Thanks for running this through a solver. Not sure why checking flop didn't occur to me in-game but we definitely should be checking flop. X/C flop and X/F turn to most turn bets seems best in review. Thanks for the reply.
April 27, 2020 | 3:39 p.m.
Yeah in hindsight I like a check on the flop, didn't even occur to me in-game for some reason, would've folded turn to a bigger bet. River tripped me up because what JX does he reasonably X/R OTF other than J10? Just seemed like a big % of the his made hands got counterfeited and was trying turning them into a bluff. That said, I think we should X/C flop and most likely X/F turn unless he bets pretty small. Thanks for the reply.
April 27, 2020 | 3:36 p.m.
Ignition - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: [url]http://www.pokertracker.com[/url]
(MP): 213.35 BB
(CO): 124.08 BB
(BTN): 117.51 BB
(SB): 106.55 BB
(BB): 50 BB
Hero (UTG): 114.7 BB
P4 posts SB 0.5 BB, P5 posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8s 7s
Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold
Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8h 7d 9s
Hero bets 4.08 BB, BTN raises to 13.82 BB, Hero calls 9.75 BB
Turn : (34.14 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero checks, BTN bets 14.22 BB, Hero calls 14.22 BB
River : (62.58 BB, 2 players) Td
Hero checks, BTN bets 86.97 BB and is all-in, Hero...?
I'm planning to fold most rivers but the 10 seems like a bad card for villain. Could see folding turn as well, which if we're going to fold river we might as well fold turn.
April 26, 2020 | 4:44 p.m.
Thanks, that's what I thought in game: check A4/A3 to protect KK and bet A5/AK/AA. But now I'm thinking maybe we should bet nutted hands big (all-in) and bet A4/A3/KK small like 1/4 - 1/3 pot in case he's sticky with KK/QQ/JJ.
Jan. 19, 2020 | 6:57 p.m.
Had this spot last night playing $2/$5 at the Brogata, effective stack size $700
Folds to hero in HJ, raise to $20 with A4ss, CO folds, BTN (middle aged guy) raises to $60, SB folds, BB folds, Hero 4-Bets to $155, BTN calls...
Flop: Ac Ad 5c ($317)
Hero checks, BTN bets $170, Hero calls...
Turn: 2h ($657)
Hero checks, BTN checks...
Thanks for the replies!
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July 13, 2019 | 12:29 a.m.
True, but we have so many better T's to call with and having the Qh is one of the worst cards to have since it blocks so many FD bluffs. J10/109/106 without a heart have to be better to call turn here. Or are we just too strong to worry about that?
July 24, 2018 | 9:14 p.m.
Had this spot on the FT of the $215 Sunday Special on ACR last night;
CO (Villian): 2,948,212
BB (Hero): 1,740,200
Villain was opening any 2 for awhile, literally every hand, and we had jammed on him a few times and doubled up once, so there's a bit of a dynamic there. I'm curious what ICM says in this spot;
Pre: Hero dealt [QhTs]
Villain raises to 120,000, 2 folds, Hero calls...
Flop: [Th 8h 5d] (294,000)
Hero checks, Villain bets 129,000, Hero calls...
Turn: [7c] (552,000)
Hero checks, Villain bets 288,500, Hero...
Couldn't get the raw hand history to work from PT4 so any advice there, or just how to use PT4 in general lol, would also be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Edited to remove river since I'm more curious about our turn decision.
July 23, 2018 | 3:15 p.m.
(Still can't get Bovada HH's to post as HH on here)
Bovada $100K Guaranteed, $150 buy-in, No Limit- Level 7 (100/200)
Seat 742: Big Blind (4,091 in chips)
Seat 648: UTG (9,103 in chips)
Seat 667: UTG+1 [HERO] (5,707 in chips)
Seat 411: UTG+2 (10,707 in chips)
Seat 573: UTG+3 (4,055 in chips)
Seat 591: UTG+4 (8,618 in chips)
Seat 649: Dealer (3,295 in chips)
Seat 631: Small Blind (3,238 in chips)
UTG+1 [HERO] : [Jh Jd]
UTG folds, Hero raises to 500, MP1 calls, 4 folds, BB calls...
Flop: [Ts 2h 9s] (1,600)
Big Blind : Checks
Hero bets 700, MP1 raises to 1,800, BB folds, Hero...
In a smaller stakes tournament I'd be jamming as fast as I could but in one like this I'm wondering what the best play here is? Would love to hear your thoughts before going through what I was thinking (or not thinking... either way)
Aug. 30, 2016 | 11:09 p.m.
Ok, so lets say we lead out small on the turn maybe like 750ish and he raises small to 1650ish or even min-raises. Do we call turn and check/call river? check/fold river depending on bet size?
Spoiler: He had 66 of all hands.
July 19, 2016 | 11:37 p.m.
Agreed, river is bad. I appreciate the feedback.
I guess in hand I didn't think he had a set since he checked back twice with a flush draw on board (which I won't have very often). Is this line of thinking wrong? In general is check/check/raise like this usually strong?
Other than that, what do we think is the best option on the river? Any reason to lead the turn?
July 19, 2016 | 12:07 a.m.
Sorry still can't get the Bovada HH converter to work.
Just moved to the table less than 2 orbits ago so no real reads on Villain. Only hands he played at the table while I was there were AA (AIP) and AQs (also AIP) in back-to-back hands against the same opponent
Bovada $150 GTD SMPO Special Event
Blinds 200/400/40 (8 handed)
Hero in BB, dealt Ks6s
Villain in MP1
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Villain raises to 800, MP2 folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls...
Flop (2,120): 6c 2s 10s
Turn (2,120): Kc
River (2,120): 8d
Hero bets 1,250, Villain raises to 2,900, Hero re-raises to 5,750, Villain re-raises to 8,600, Hero re-raises to 11,450, Villain calls and is all-in...
Obviously river is ugly. Was planning to check/raise turn and was a little surprised he checked back.
Definitely a better way to play this hand, what do y'all think?
July 17, 2016 | 11:02 p.m.
Had this hand come up in a $10 MTT on Bovada. Villain was fairly new at the table, amassed his big stack by quadrupling up with KK UTG 6 or 7 hands before this. I had just won a pretty big pot as well 2 hands before this with QQ vs 1010 but no hands directly against villain.
Blinds: 200/400 (average stack around 14K, we're currently in 3rd in chips overall)
Hero in MP1 with 49,549
Villain in HJ with 46,644
Preflop: Hero dealt JsJh
2 folds, Hero raises to 925, fold, Villain raises to 2,700, 4 folds...
Hero checks, Villain bets 2,900 (into 6,360), Hero calls
Hero checks, Villain bets 6,175 (into 12,160), Hero...
Not sure what the best play here is. I hate raising and having to fold to a shove when we're super deep against another huge stack. I think call turn and fold on river if we don't improve is probably right but would love your opinions.
April 15, 2016 | 2:36 a.m.
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April 12, 2016 | 12:57 a.m.
That seems like it would be incredibly nitty to me. He also might shove something like AKs/AQs. If we're deeper we could think about 3bet/fold but with 32BB I can't see raise/folding here unless MP2 comes over the top of MP1's 4bet shove.
April 11, 2016 | 3:28 p.m.
Hit this spot in a small ($3) MTT on Bovada. No reads of note on Villain.
Blinds: 500/1000/100 ante
Hero [64K] dealt Jc10c in the BB
Villain 1 UTG with 28K min-raises to 2,000, Villain 2 BTN with 73.5K min-re-raises to 3K, Hero calls, Villain 1 calls...
Flop [~10K] 10dKc8c
Hero checks, Villain 1 checks, Villain 2 bets 24K, Hero goes all-in for 61K, Villain 1 folds, Villain 2 calls...
Hero shows two pair: Jacks and 10's
Villain wins with two pair: Kings and Jacks
To be completely honest I didn't notice he 2.5x over-bet the flop, but did add it up and decided to shove since we wouldn't have enough chips left to have an appropriate sized jam on the turn. We're pretty deep for this stage in the tournament so we could fold pre or OTF and still be a big stack but I don't love either option. Did I just punt this off or can we not really fold here? Do we 4-bet pre without any solid reads? Any thoughts are appreciated.
April 9, 2016 | 4:47 a.m.
Agreed with everything you said here. It was a small buyin, I believe $10. Reading it back through its definitely a fold at this stage. Figured 2 pair was more likely than a set since he just completes behind pre (which, I went back to look at the HH and he had 56o) which is a flip. Sadly, I would've spiked the 8 OTT but we can't be results oriented lol. Thanks for the comment!
April 8, 2016 | 7:31 p.m.
Bovada Hand #3372581369: HOLDEM Tournament #9985126 TBL#10, No Limit- Level 5 (50/100) - 2016-04-03 14:55:00
UTG (6,918 in chips)
UTG+1 (4,051 in chips)
UTG+2 (4,176 in chips)
UTG+3 (3,257 in chips)
UTG+4 (3,035 in chips)
UTG+5 (6,300 in chips)
Dealer (5,400 in chips)
Small Blind (9,705 in chips)
Big Blind [ME] (8,038 in chips)
Hero dealt [9h 7h]
UTG Folds, UTG+1 Call 100, MP1 Folds, MP2 Folds, HJ Folds, CO Call 100, BTN Folds, SB Calls, Hero Checks...
* FLOP * [3h 5d 6h] (400)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 300, CO calls 300, SB raises all-in to 9605, Hero...
Hand history converter isn't working for me for some reason, but wanted to get some of y'alls opinions. I figured, during the hand, that folding was a pretty easy decision here since we're so deep but I ran some hand combo's on a basic hold 'em calculator and I'm wondering if folding is really as easy as I thought. We're dominated by hands like A4hh (or really any 4Xhh or AXhh hands) but do OK against a lot of other possible hands. I don't really have any reads on Villain, but wouldn't think he shoves Axhh or A4hh but is probably shoving sets (3:2 dog) and 2 pair (flip). I still think that folding is correct because we're so deep but would love to hear some opinions or more in-depth calculations. At what chip stack do we start calling this? Also, in hindsight we should definitely be raising this hand pre-flop.
April 5, 2016 | 3:51 a.m.
Getting pretty good odds to call with the antes, calling 510 to win 1380 plus the implied odds of the BB over limping after I do, so really it's calling 510 to win 1740. Plus we're pretty deep.
Reading it again, I guess AQ is in his range here and he wanted to protect against the straight draw?
March 28, 2016 | 4:59 p.m.
Had this spot in a small ($3) $2K guaranteed tournament on Bovada. No real reads of note on villain.
Blinds: 150/300 Ante 30 (9 players)
Villain 1: UTG [25,099]
Hero: SB [18,990]
Villain 2: BB [11,135]
Preflop: Hero dealt Jh9s
UTG raises to 660, 6 folds, Hero calls, BB calls...
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks...
Hero bets 900, BB folds, UTG raises to 2,475, Hero....
I duno, seems like an odd way to play AQ or KQ so I feel like either 22-77 or AA/KK/AK/JJ is more likely. We have the gutshot as outs too (maybe). Is bet/fold best here? or just check/call?
Thanks for your opinions everyone.
March 25, 2016 | 3:29 a.m.
Ran into this spot in a small tournament ($10) on Bovada, new to the table so pretty much no reads on anyone. We had just won the last hand in a checked down pot from the SB after betting the river (probably irrelevant though).
CO [8,300]: HERO
Preflop: Hero dealt AdJh
5 folds, Hero raises to 400, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls...
Flop (1,600): 6s10hJc
Sb checks, BB bets 300, Hero raises to 900, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls...
Turn (3400): Ac
BB bets 1,050, Hero raises to 4,000, BB folds...
Feel pretty good that we have the best hand here, maybe he shows up with 66 sometimes but never really concerned me. Thought he might have like J10 or something like that. Pretty surprised he folded given he had already put in over half his stack and was getting pretty good odds to call.
My question to you is, how can I improve my sizing to maximum value OTF or OTT? Can we flat the turn and hope the river bricks? Can we ever flat the turn and fold the river on a terrible card (Qc)? Or am I overthinking this and just GII on the turn every time and if he folds we still pick up a nice pot?