My range lacking value here bc I didn't 4 bet?
Lot to think about in this middle paragraph, never seen this thought broken down this way but it makes a lot of sense. I can see I need a lot of thinking time to be looking at what hands I plan to play in any certain spot and then looking at different flops that can come out and what my options could be against different type of guy. This is kind of light bulb for me.
Dec. 30, 2021 | 9:52 p.m.
"This is a squeeze around the blinds. BB's range is going to be wider and weaker. Although you have position, a hand like 88 is difficult to win with in these spots. Conversely, since BB's range is weaker, when you hit an 8 you won't necessarily get it all. You're paying a high price pre flop to flop a set (the math is very borderline on your implied odds here), or try to win the pot when there's really only 2 bets left to go in, very sketchy with a hand that's vulnerable like 88."
If the SB hadn't called do you think reraising is an option or do I need to know more before I consider this? Does SB calling rule out reraising as a bluff?
I hear what you're saying about how it's hard to do anything with this hand after the flop with only 100bb. Seeing why this specific spot just play simply and let it go, pretty sure I'm repeating this same error a lot and is why I'm not winning more.
Dec. 30, 2021 | 9:44 p.m.
Hi, first post. Have avoided posting any hand due to embarrassment of bad/wrong thought processes but time to get over that.
Ignition - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
P1 (CO): $188.32
Hero (BTN): $49.25
P4 (SB): $33.50
P5 (BB): $49.50
P6 (UTG): $61.46
P7 (UTG+1): $57.52
P8 (MP): $51.07
P4 posts SB $0.25, P5 posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 8s 8c
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, P4 calls $1.25, P5 raises to $6.00, Hero calls $4.50, fold
Flop : ($13.50, 2 players) 5h Jd Ad
P5 checks, Hero bets $6.64, P5 calls $6.64
Turn : ($26.78, 2 players) Td
P5 checks, Hero checks
River : ($26.78, 2 players) 4s
P5 bets $36.86 and is all-in, fold
I bet the flop hoping maybe I could steal it from 99, TT, QQ, KK. Basically hands I thought he could definitely squeeze with that didn't want to see an A, didn't want to raise a bet, and might see the texture and think calling here could only get worse on a lot of turn cards. I thought I could represent a slightly weaker set of "good" hands like JJ, AQo, AJ, AT, other suited aces just betting for value, since in my reviews I noticed opponents calling my 3 bets with those hands and not wanting to 4 bet. I chose a size that I thought could get some folds without risking a ton.
When he didn't XR or fold I honestly wasn't sure what to do and I didn't want to go broke bluffing when I didn't know if he could/would fold so I just gave up.
Things I'm wondering about this hand:
Preflop should I just fold here? I can accept folding as reasonable due to not knowing how to play postflop, and not knowing anything about the BB.
On the flop do these reasons for bluffing make sense or am I attacking hands that are too strong to expect my opponent to fold to just that one half pot bluff?
Are these even the things I should be thinking about?
Dec. 30, 2021 | 11:14 a.m.
Feedback Shaun Yes this was helpful, I have some overwhelm from too much random advice. Good for me to have a simplification, somewhere to start from basic strategy and clear up my focus and go forward from a solid foundation