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A nice price for what? To call and check-fold all flushing rivers?
To allow any 8,T,K,9 to appear on river and leave us in a worse spot?

What to expect from opponents that call a 4x check raise and mini raise turn?
If they had a set, they would re-raise me flop (which I would fold) or shove us turn. But maybe not mini raise.
If they are on a A'h pair + flush draw, we are ahead. A8, AK, QJ, AT, AJ split, any A2s-A7s / A9s / ATs, AKs, even JTs for hearths going out of the way...
What beat us? T9, KT, AQ that called 70-30 ~ 80-20 behind the flop.

If we insta fold we lose nearly 30bb, if we call we are committing 50bb and allowing ourselves to be bluffed cheaply at multiple river run-outs.

I decided to shove my own and hope we hit the side we are on the equity ahead + fold equity of odd villain hands, because calling to check-fold river could be worse.

May 29, 2020 | 6:09 p.m.

Yes, but I was mini raised, so I shoved myself.

May 29, 2020 | 5:20 p.m.

After X/R top 2 pair, can we bet fold turn ever?

Or should I just repeat / play like this always and profit 70-80% of the times against open ended / gutshots that miss?

May 29, 2020 | 4:54 p.m.

Post | Renegaz posted in NLHE: .


April 16, 2020 | 10:16 p.m.

You are fucked by 29o that called a 3bet.

April 5, 2020 | 6:28 p.m.

Comment | Renegaz commented on Can we ever bet river?

I'd play the same.

April 5, 2020 | 5:42 p.m.

OOP I prefer to 5b/shove PF

April 5, 2020 | 5:41 p.m.

Villain showed T9off (no diamonds) and we were good at 50%-50%.

April 3, 2020 | 8:34 p.m.

I recommend choosing one instructor that you like the tone/gameplay and watch all his videos in order to make more sense.

When that is over, go to another and compare what both did the same / differences and make your own assumptions.

April 2, 2020 | 11:44 p.m.

Thank you,

Yes, I "quickly" calculated that he would shove any FD / Open ended, maybe two overcards including "Ad", trapped overpairs + sets and some minor worse shoves.

But most of these trapping hands that crush me could also be slowplayed further = call me to let me fire on turns, so I concluded he would shove more of the remaining part (not expecting to be called, but to generate a fold) and I called.

April 2, 2020 | 11:28 p.m.

So if you remove A7-A2s + x9s, remove ATo (as you said in another post) + I guess you open only 55+ ?

What range is left ? 13% utg ?

April 2, 2020 | 6:20 a.m.

I guess you should just make $760 / 10505 = 0,0732 rake per hands total.
x 100 hands = 7,23 /100

Same for $72,92 / 1385 = 0,0525 rake per hands total
x 100 hands = 5,25 /100

According to the Chico / BetOnline rake page, the structure is 0,01 rake per 0,18 pot (at NL 10) ~ 5,55%.

Considering you are paying 5,25 proportionally at your wining hands, that is fair.
"Fair" I mean, by their rules lol.

April 2, 2020 | 2:52 a.m.

UTG opens 3bb
CO calls 3bb
Hero BB squeezes to 13bb with KcKd.
UTG folds, CO calls.

Flop: 3h Ah 9d (pot 29 bb)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: As (pot 29bb)
Hero checks, CO bets 15bb, H calls.

River: 9h (pot 58bb)
Hero checks, CO bets 29bb, H calls.

1- Would you play this hand differently / why?
2- What effect not having Kh in our hand has ?

April 2, 2020 | 2:41 a.m.

6max no reads - Villain had 90bb.
BU opens 3bb
SB Hero 3bets 12bb with As7s

Flop comes 2d8d7h (pot 24bb)
Hero bets 12bb - BU insta shove.

What do you do ?

April 2, 2020 | 12:09 a.m.

Post | Renegaz posted in NLHE: KK top set on wet runout OOP

UTG opens 3bb
others fold
Hero BB with KdKs 3bets 12bb,
UTG calls.

Flop comes KhQdTd (24bb)
Hero bets 14,5bb ~ 60%
UTG calls

Turn - comes Jd (53bb)
Hero checks, UTG checks behind

River - comes 3c (53bb)

Hero bets? check call? bet fold to a shove?
What would be your line and reasoning please.

March 30, 2020 | 9:40 p.m.

Yeah, thanks, I agree.
V had 22 (which I expected to raise or bet turn, reason why I initially bet 30% flop).

March 25, 2020 | 8:05 p.m.

Yeah, thinking like this it is a better fold on turn.
Villain raised me with Q6s and shoved for a full house which I called.

I need to consider players that call the SB to be Any2 (suited) next time.

March 25, 2020 | 8:04 p.m.

Post | Renegaz posted in NLHE: 9Jo raised river SB x BB

All folds, hero SB with 9Jo raises 3bb BB calls.

Flop 9c6h2s (Pot 6bb)
Hero bets 2bb - BB calls

Turn Ac (Pot 10bb)
Hero checks - BB checks behind

River Jd (Pot 10bb)
Hero bets 7bb - BB raises 30bb

Hero calls 100% of the time?
Do you think BB is traping A6 / 66 / A2 / 22 / A9 others Ax (including AJ) checking behind turn ?
What could he be raising with (and not calling) that we are still ahead?

March 25, 2020 | 5:20 a.m.

Villan 90bb stack unknown

Hero CO opens 2.5bb with KQo
Villain SB calls 2.5bb
BB folds

Pot 6bb - Flop Qh2c8s
V check, Hero bets 3bb - V calls.

Turn 6c - Pot 12bb
V check, Hero bets 9bb - Villain raises 24bb - Hero calls.

River (pot 60bb)
Qs (Qh2c8s6cQs)

Scenario 1 - Villain shoves remaining 60bb of his stack into a 60bb pot. - Hero ?
Scenario 2 - Villain checks - Hero bets (how much? / shove?) - or check behind ?

March 25, 2020 | 5:08 a.m.

Hi, I'd like to understand or find a video that covers / explain more about this (cash zoom 6max 100bb):

If we open a certain range from let's say, HiJack ~20% of hands.

And we face a 3bet, in two scenarios, from Button which leaves us OOP, and from SB which leaves us IP.

By "general knowledge" (from what I read elsewhere), we expect BU IP 3betting range to be wider than SB to OOP 3bet HiJack.
Which % of hands / our range should we defend in these examples ?

I mean, most of the articles - content I've found, advocate for a wide continuing range IP. That "position enough" would be worth the call.
I wonder if this is the reality, because if you are HJ/CO and faces a 3bet from the BB (say around 4.5%-6% range), which range should you call with, even IP how would you continue?

Any enlightening in this matter is highly appreciated !
Bonus question: If you find someone that 3bets 3% only, could/should you fold everything and only 4bet your premiums?

March 18, 2020 | 5:37 a.m.

Yes, this happens repeatedly.
Hero 3bets OOP, on low/mid board as I don't feel comfortable to 3bet and "check" 88+ (and allow villain a free card for his overcards most of the time), I do get ahead sometimes I barrel 3 times with KK-AA (and still get called down by JJ-QQ).

Of course this could be biased by "forgetting" the times I bet flop/2barrel (even with my draws/overs) and take the pot.

Do you have any suggestions?
1- Like reducing bet size each street? 30~50% Flop +50% T+ 75% R
2- Would be better or worse; to bet flop, and check-raise all turns (as in topic)?
3 - ??? $ profit

Feb. 28, 2020 | 3:17 a.m.

I started to wonder as daily I'm being stacked on regular basis on hands like this:

MP/CO opens 2.5~3bb
Hero SB 3bets 10~12bb with "99-TT-JJ"

Flop comes 225 (or whatever 3 cards not in sequence / not monotone bellow my PP)
Hero bets 50%, V calls

Turn 8 (no flush completed) - pot around 48bb
Hero bets 75% (36bb), V calls

River (pot has +110bb) any card not higher than my pocket pair, if I check, I call a jam, or if I jam myself, I usually get called.
V usually has JJ-QQ, even KK (yes, JJ-QQ-KK that calls 3bet's IP) and I went broke once again.

Shouldn't I play like this "generally" to put pressure on their floating overcards / single pairs / draws (as played)??
But majority of the time villains seem to be passively calling anything. It seems I only stack them if I luckily flop a set with the PP I 3bet with.

Is it standard?

Feb. 28, 2020 | 1:49 a.m.

Yes, exactly! I'm not worried about going broke (or not) postflop, because there will be times I'll fold, other times I will have set/set, others they will fold, others we will check down on super wet boards, etc...

Maybe my description was not clear, but what I wanted to calculate was -
"In a squeezed pot - how much Could I raise to, in order to avoid one(or two) players setmine us profitably."

And surely some villains will not calculate and still call 22-99 to "setmine", but by doing it poorly (in a sure loss scenario) I can also take a easy note on that.

But in a squeeze, say MP opens 3bb, CO calls 3bb, Hero on BU raises "13"bb.
With the dead blinds +1.5bb = already 20.5bb for the original raiser to call 10bb.
If he calls, the second caller has an easy time to call 10bb to enter a 31bb pot.

As "calling 10bb" looks doable I wondered what number could we get to...

Feb. 8, 2020 | 12:32 p.m.

I made calculations for post flop, no worries going broke ahead range or behind sets.They can donk or check-raise broke with 33 or KQ/QJ / 2pair at KT3 and I'm not folding TPTK x his range.

I mean, my question is: if people are paying 14bb preflop with a PP, would they pay 15...16.5, 18bb ? Which threshold line becomes "a certain loss" for anyone calling PP ?

Because if someone is making a clearly negative call preflop to setmine, I will insta-profit anyway (and more reasons to go broke with TPTK when they hit worse part of their range at lower SPR).

Feb. 8, 2020 | 12:13 a.m.

I usually get stacked in the following situation:

MP opens 3bb
CO calls 3bb
Hero on BU with AQs / AKs squeees 14bb.

Both players call.
Pot is 43bb - Flop comes something like "3KT" or "3QJ" rainbow giving me TPTK.

Someone donks full pot, other player fold, I shove the remaining. Villain shows "33". (Or whatever is the card bellow 6).
Yes, sometimes they do it with worse broadways that I dominate or combodraws, but there's a good share of sets and some live equity.

Other times, both players check, I bet 25-30bb both players fold.

How much should I squeeze to, that the times I get stacked by a PP are covered by winnings with c-betting / value betting?
Is there any simple calculation for that ?

I mean, people are calling 14bb preflop to set mine... (or CC OOP with KQ/22-JJ)
Should I raise even more??

Feb. 7, 2020 | 10:31 p.m.

I'd like to know other player's reasoning on situations that involve a "dubious" river Bet or a check behind to conclude the hand.

Today I had 3 hands that unfolded quite similarly. (Everyone 100bb deep / all hands)

Hand 1 - QhQd
Hero CO raises 2.5bb with QhQd.
2 folds, BB calls.

Flop comes 6c5s8s (pot 5.5bb)
- BB donks 4bb
- Hero calls / raise ?

Turn comes 3h (pot 13,5 bb)
- BB checks / Hero bets 8bb / BB calls

River comes 6s (pot 29,5bb)

Board now reads 6c5s8s3h6s - BB Checks - Hero should bet QQ ? (as well as 99-TT-JJ ???)
If you bet (how much) and would you fold to a raise? Is check behind a good option now that river completed the flush and paired the 6?

Hand 2 - JhJs
HJ opens 3bb
Hero CO 3bets to 9bb
others fold

Flop comes 6s9s4c (pot 19 bb)
CO checks, Hero bets 10bb, CO calls.

Turn comes Ts (pot 39 bb)
CO checks, Hero bets 20bb CO calls.

River comes 2s (4 cards of "S" giving us J high flush) - pot 79bb.
CO checks - Hero remaining stack = 60~65bb - Shove or check behind ?

Hand 3 - KsJs
CO limps 1bb
Hero BU ISO 4bb
others fold

Flop comes 5hJh8d (pot 9,5bb)
CO donks 7bb / Hero calls

Turn comes As (pot 23bb)
CO checks / Hero bets 12bb / CO calls

River comes any brick not completing flush / not pairing the board
Pot now has ~45bb - CO checks - Hero checks behind = Thoughts ?

Any advice is highly welcomed.

Feb. 3, 2020 | 9:54 p.m.

Wish you all the best in 2020, and that your goals become reality.

Buying a house (supported by Poker money) is a huge achievement, even if it's only a fraction of the payment, it gives a lifetime confidence boost.

Happy that you turned around your 30bi down to recoup at nl 50-100. Congrats on overcoming that.

Jan. 7, 2020 | 4:01 p.m.

Post | Renegaz posted in NLHE: Check raise nut flush draws OOP?

Example as 3bet OPP:
CO opens 2.5bb
SB (Hero) 3bets 9.5bb Ad2d
BB folds

Pot 20bb
Flop comes Jd5h8d
Hero checks - CO Bets 8~14bb - Hero raises 24~35bb

Is this a decent line at 100bb no reads?

Example at BB call:
HiJack opens 2.5bb
others fold
BB (Hero) completes with Ad3d

Pot 5,5 bb
Flop comes Jd5h8d

At this pot size, isn't it better to check-call flop -> check-raise turn or if checked behind at turn, bet river ?

I mean, at first hand we would get more fold equity / still have decent equity when going broke at flop, but on the smaller pots, we would get more money by letting our opponent bet flop, bet turn, bet river
- Does this assumption make sense in reality ?

Dec. 12, 2019 | 4:29 a.m.

Thanks PrankCallRiver, could you please clarify #1
" x/r’ing 2p+ and combo draws as a lot of tight/weak players do, is pretty big leak on some boards." ?

Shouldn't we "always" check raise these against a 25-35% cbet ?
I mean, usually I call a decent size flop bet to let villain barrel turn and be x/r all-in?

Btw, congrats on being top5 of the month.

Nov. 29, 2019 | 3:30 a.m.

I'm searching for videos / content that deal with the following situations:

Hero (UTG or MP) opens a 15~20% range for 2.5bb.
CO or BU 3bets to 8.5bb

Which kind of software / tools should be used to study and build your defense ratio?
I mean, OOP we fold the weakest part of our range, we 4bet/broke all value (QQ+, AKs), but what about the part we call - 4bet/fold ?

I think the weakest part of my game is how to react to 3bets while being OOP.
1- If I call, 100% I check any flop and feels like I'm the fish calling station or end up check/raising the nuts.

2- If I get to be dominated and lose money post flop, isn't better to 4bet bluff things like KTs KJs instead of calling OOP ?

3- I don't do this, but do people 4bet fold QQ?
I mean, after betting 23-25bb PF, shouldn't QQ be in our continuing/call shove range?

Nov. 29, 2019 | 12:27 a.m.

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