I think the only mistake is pre- Vs a 19% opening range your seeing a 4% calling range vs BU 3bet; This is going to look like AJs/AQs AKo; 88 thought QQ and then some other hands are going to be 4betting that are better.
The idea with flatting OTB is to get into more showdown situations in position when dealing with high pairs. While keeping a protected range vs the blinds and a tough open/call 3bet range of the UTG player.
This hand is tough because you are now playing a bloated pot in position vs a very narrow strong range with a holding that in most cases wants to just make it to the end vs UTG villian.
Also now that you have shown a tendency to 3bet in position these good regs will quickly 4bet punish you in the future and you will end up doing a lot of 3bet from the button; a position of mostly flat calls.
As for the actual flop and turn I think we have to call flop once in postion but vs such a strong range I think we are fine mucking it on the turn rather than committing our stack in a situation where villain has a range advantage and betting lead.
May 22, 2019 | 6:14 p.m.
Interested thought today on 3bet pots coming to you into the small blind.
Say- UTG opens 16% button 3bets 8% your in the small what is your continue range and how do you proceed?
Swap UTG for HJ or CO what is the implications on your small blind strategy and how do you adjust to different kinds of numbers/positions.
Curious the opinions of flatting the small- 4bet fold/calling small vs 3bet- or simplifying it and having a shove only situation.
Just Looking for some construction in a wishy washy situation. Also curious about BB but I think flatting becomes clearly better in the big rather than the small. Especially vs an EP villian who WONT play back at you with a shove/fold strategy.
Feb. 6, 2019 | 9:50 p.m.
I play a 4bet/fold all hands strategy from small blind and this is far from my ranges that want to be played here. Makes rest of hand a little tricky with a percieved wide range which should change your play post.
Your definitly leaking money in SB with the attitude of "meh sometimes ill try and hit with cute hands"
Flop your going to have a TON of natural bluffs and with sets/straights I like your sizing here....its not bad.
Turn you earn even more bluffs and you put a lot of his range into a tough spot on the turn; with lots of bluffs and some nutted holding we want to be thinking more to size up because of board and less.
As played I like an overbet shove on river- draws brick and your never bluffing 45% pot. Stack those sets and overpairs :)
We have played on stars together quite a bit not sure if you recognize me or not
Feb. 4, 2019 | 11:22 p.m.
I agree; makes for a very weird line when you lead flop- This hand performs at its best value as a bluff catch in small pot 😊
However if villian does check through flop you could go for 2 streets of value turn/river on very safe cards. Never getting 3 streets of leading value here.
Feb. 4, 2019 | 10:31 p.m.
Quality content and excellent though process reveal! I like your 98bluff i believe thst is the most natural selection; Im thinking at low stakes people will bet bet call far too wide on there valur range that it may not be profitable against the loose passive recs; but i love the thought process and the selection 👍
Nov. 20, 2018 | 9:05 a.m.
Ah yes I meant the 4 way Huni hand; I had figured beforehand that the bet was an optimistic on his part. Sounds bad to give free cards to 3 players but Id rather do that and lose a small pot rather than lose a bigger one vs uncapped ranges.
Nov. 4, 2018 | 12:56 a.m.
Chip Ev standard but with a tighter range because of Icm combined with the ICM pressure on yourself. Like he said with a tight range it doesn't get good quick when you add hands but it gets very bad very quick when you take out hands from a normal construction.
Nov. 3, 2018 | 5:22 a.m.
Excellent video as always Apotheosis ; Super interesting that the 99 from Linnus is even ever considered close or even bad I have for sure always just sigh called that spot with like 77 AQ+; Super Eye opening. And its interesting to see the check back with the Ax holdings on AKx boards; I assumed this was a range advantage board and always a bet for hero- did not even consider the fact that KQ hands need protection here.
Interested in the Hhecklan AT bet 4 ways; If the board is AK rather than AJ does the protection of hands like KQ still apply here or is this different because its multi way and hecklan wasn't the pre flop raiser?
Thanks kruk and RIO team
Nov. 2, 2018 | 7:19 p.m.
Stumbled on a pretty info-graphic on red chip poker regarding preflop ranges. It seems to do a nice job of summing up some of the spots easilly with both tight/loose approaches to the game- This post however was made in 2016 and just curious on what you all think of the relevance in today's games?
Oct. 13, 2018 | 8:26 p.m.
I believe the length of winter is somewhat the same; especially on the coast. Similar weather to coastal US states Im sure; There is no shortage in selection in Vancouver; this thread is not really to argue the plausibility of Vancouver being a possible winning area; just looking for some kind of monetary goal.
Until reaching 5/10 the selection of game is effectively the same Im sure.
Oct. 1, 2018 | 12:34 a.m.
How much money is really needed?
Im looking for someone who has been through the rungs of climbing at a live casino without a job catching them if they fail.
I know the short answer is probably "heaps" But looking for more of a Money goal to strive for before really digging into full time play.
Living Expenses examined
The plan Is to move to Burnaby,Kamloops,BC with the love of my life and share accommodation costs. Splitting rent and most other things. Rent being the largest output we would be looking for a one bedroom for 1500 or less; $750/month.
Food would be strictly meal prepped daytimes and home cooked dinners- planning on doing two large grocery days of $200 each;
Travel is yet to be decided but we will either be sharing a car or taking the local transit for next to nothing/month.
Am I even good enough to consider this plunge?
This year I have not played as much as I would have wanted due to a the local casino going on strike for seemingly forever- but I have 20 days(480hours) worth of tracked poker playing hours this year at a winrate of 9bb/100 at local 1/2 games.
Due to the strike I have invested many hours to study/work as well at online MTT play. 2018 played 1620 tournaments to date (sept,28,2018) 16k in prizes and an ROI of 13%.
2017 I was a losing player over the year playing 500 tournaments with a -50% ROI. I feel the immense study has helped there greatly.
What games am I looking to play, what kind of buyin?
Looking to climb rungs sort of speak climbing the live cash ladder.
Parq offers a 24hour casino with 2/5 being the biggest game.
The intention is to begin play at 1/2 with a buyin of 200. The game plays a 100-400 buyin range. Ive always bought in for 300 at local casino but willing to take it slower by climbing down a rung to get comfortable. Ive kicked this idea around a bit; what do you guys think? Is this going to be a buyin profitable enough to climb up through or should I just suck it up and treat 300 buy in the lowest rung and save more $$$ for this?
Eventually the goal is to become a regular at villa casino, the only casino offering a 5/10 game it seems.
Thank you for reading
I appreciate the time you take to read through this journal of sorts- hopefully this is the right thread and crowd for this sort of thing.
Comments concerns or questions greatly appreciated. The more its talked about the more real It shall become :)
Sept. 28, 2018 | 7:47 p.m.
I could very well be wrong; but my thinking is that at the lower stakes the average opponent is going to be less mindful of opening ranges opening; Just imagine a weak opener with a range of all pairs all connectors some suited gappers; We are going to crush that all too common player type. I didnt mean there are NO 4bets; just less than proper at these stakes
July 28, 2018 | 3:27 p.m.
Id prefer a 3bet here- isolate a narrow range of open 3/b call of the utg player and absolutely wreck him on low boards. Population shouldn't find too many 4bets and our hand can flop some lovely flops if all contestants decide they want to come along.
As far as call vs. fold I can't fathom folding for 208 to win 984 to 1100 in chips (bb c/f option behind)
If you do want to take the passive route as some prefer I imagine; I think was to ensure your BB isn't one to muck around with you limp; calling 1200 more 3 ways with no lead or control of the pot doesn't make me nearly as happy.
TLDR- 3bet a good size > call > fold
July 27, 2018 | 1:58 a.m.
July 18, 2018 | 5:49 p.m.
Much Appreciated; Just started the essential learning path course and played that one right before listening to apotheosis on ICM; got my head turning on how tight the mid stacks are forced to play at this stack depths. Interesting to see that a commonplace no brainer shove before is actually right on the border of acceptability.
Appreciate the work.
July 12, 2018 | 1:35 a.m.
Hi friends; looking for some help with this shove math- seemed like a slam dunk to start- not sure after further thought on ICM implications.
We are first to act at a 4 handed table of the final 8 of the hyper 3.30 w/ AJo 12bbs....to our right is a player whom has just been added to my table in the shufflings and we have no hands on him. He is however the far and away chipleader sitting on 56bb.
SB has 2.6 BB has 7.5bb
The payouts are as follows.
I dont have it in front of me but hopefully whomever has a good answer for this can also assume the avg stack size given the 4 sizes/8.
In the moment this seemed like a slam dunk shove onto 2shorter tight players and only the one cover.....but reading more into this it seems like ICM suicide to bust at any freqency in this position....I have a couple questions;
1)Shove or fold?
2) whats the icm math/implications hre here.
3)What is our shoving range here?
Thanks for the considerations.
July 11, 2018 | 4:17 a.m.
I think calling all Tx is too wide but i want to keep AT so im folding QT as its less good of a bluff catcher and for the same reason I QQ is close...the rest seem like obvious lead check/call call off hands....just concerned with calling too wide with an already wide range.