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Salatmann92

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i do like your thoughts, though I cannot ever see a fold ott. Despite 2off is a classic blank, I think, Villain will often enough 2-barrel w/ fds as even recs tend to understand the idea of "semi-bluff". Thus, I call twice to give Villain the chance to 3-barrel too less with bluffs in this spot.

Feb. 9, 2017 | 12:57 p.m.

So raising me for more than 3x of my 60% bet is "cheap"?
Why do I want to raise vs. those hands otf rather than ott?

Feb. 7, 2017 | 6:26 p.m.

Why? I explained my line, please explain yours :)

Feb. 7, 2017 | 2:50 p.m.

  1. Flop bigger (60%)

  2. As played bet Turn because your sizing otf kept his range wide. Usually, x/c AK with some fequency OTT makes a lot of sense.

  3. As played bet/fold a little bigger, like 50% unless you have some sick read regarding spazz induces. After Villains raise you should fold with the reason you already gave us.

Feb. 7, 2017 | 10:48 a.m.

Comment | Salatmann92 commented on AA ip

Usually, I'd go for bet flop, bet turn for value, but folding to a x/r as we hold Ad and therefore there are not as many fds possible anymore, that Villain could use for a semi-bluff.

On most runouts, I'd go for only 2 streets of value and then flop and turn to charge the vast amount of draws and high equity hands. On the exact runout I do exactly that, but if the boards pairs, I like thin value 3rd barrel (which is already exploitative play because I assume micro Villains to fold too little, so if the board pairs I won't 3-barrel my missed draws in that spot that much).

BUT: without exploitative assumption, I really like your checkback otf. AxAd is one of the best hands to cb flop. But remember, that this is more of a balancing strategy and versus weak-passive opponents we can just drop strengthening our cb ranges.

As played, bet bigger ott (does he really check twice with hands, that have you beat? he will miss value or protection if so)

OTR, tough spot, I cannot really see bluffs play like this. But Villain could value/block bet weaker hands like this.
I could not fold here, but you maybe should.

Feb. 7, 2017 | 10:36 a.m.

Hand History | Salatmann92 posted in NLHE: BvB oop w/ middle Set
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $27.70
SB: $32.42 (Hero)
BB: $54.42
UTG: $71.92
MP: $29.98
CO: $13.44
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with 8 8
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50
Flop ($1.50) 8 K 5
Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $3.03, Hero calls $2.13
K-high semi-connected Flop, the plan is to c-bet roughly 40-50% of my hands here oop BvB. I choose to use one sizing ~60% pot as default.
Villain raises Flop and we have basically nuts as KK most likely 3bets pre. FD is out many possible straight draws or gutters and population tends to not value raise thin enough --> I assume this board is overbluffed when flopraised. That is why I only call (to keep (semi-)bluffs in with the plan to x/shove many turns for value.)
1st Question: With given datapoints, do we want to have a 3-betting range otf?
As there are quite a few bad turn cards, especially for a bit weaker hands like 55, K8?
Turn ($7.56) 8 K 5 4
Hero checks, BB bets $5.56, Hero calls $5.56
4d is kinda a bad turn card. Villain might think it is a blank (due to it being a low card) and gives up some low equity bluffs because he does not see enough FE.
Additionally, 76 gets there, which Villain is very possible to have in all its variations with his line. That is why I do not x/shove for value. Ingame I was unsure if Villain folds two pair vs. my shove. Now off table, I think best line could be x/shove as Villain might call most of his two pairs.
River ($18.68) 8 K 5 4 3
Hero checks, BB checks
spade hits OTR. I go for x/decide, probably x/fold.
What do you think about leading 1/3 pot and folding vs shove?
Final Pot SB wins and shows three of a kind, Eights.
SB wins $17.84
Rake is $0.84

Feb. 6, 2017 | 6:32 p.m.

Comment | Salatmann92 commented on correct play oop

Why check OTT? The 7s should be better for your oppenent's range, which is actually a reason for mixing in x/r with your nutted hands to induce some bluffs or thin value bets you beat, but on micros people tende to be too passive. This is why I would go for 3 streets of value with bet/bet/bet hoping villain finds a calldown w/ Kx.

As you fold out the very weak hands OTF already, I'd go with 2/3-ish pot to extract value from 99-QQ, some 8x and all Kx. And then I would 2/3-3/4 pot on almost any river, giving him the hero call spot w/ JJ for example.

As played, I like the x/r instead of x/c because it builds a pot. BUT your sizing is WAY to low. As you could see, villain does not care about your sizing, he either continues or folds his hand. Therefore you wanna x/shove most likely. With x/shove you get Fold Equity in the spots you are bluffing (i guess you do not bluff in this spot but ideally you should always have a possible bluff) and max Value from hero calls, which otherwise would scare fold OTF if an Ace or a spade hits.

Feb. 3, 2017 | 12:09 p.m.

Bet otf for value, then x/c most turn, x/decide (probably x/f river).

as played you need to call as you are totally underrepped. But giving initiative away was a mistake in the first place.

Jan. 28, 2017 | 6:24 p.m.

Cbet 1/3 pot with 100% of your range.
You can barrel on any T+ and I'd go with 2/3-3/4 ott.
Decide otr if 3rd barrel is profitable (might be if J+ rivers).

He did not 3bet preflop, thus you have a range advantage on such a flop.

Jan. 26, 2017 | 9:04 p.m.

Nice hand.
Ranges are huge BvB.
Fishy Stack --> he might stack off with weaker FDs and even vs. 98o you have 34% equity.
You have Fold Equity otf vs. random bluffs he has due to huge ranges.

Jan. 26, 2017 | 9 p.m.

100% bet otf 3-way!

K and Q are bad turns for us, but you might miss value from 66, 77 when 8 or 9 or T turns.

As played, I like the fold otr.

Jan. 26, 2017 | 8:58 p.m.

I'd size up a little (3-3.50) ott.

But i would not overshove otr.
Villain will have Combo-Draws or Draws somewhat often. Those kind of hands might pay a big turn bet but will almost always fold to 1.5x bet otr.
Therefore, I suggest betting 1/3 - 1/2 otr to level them into a call.

Jan. 26, 2017 | 8:51 p.m.

They have good "playability".
That means, even oop they play pretty well due to flopping the majority of their equity (flush draws, straight draws, 2pr (draw)). It is often very clear whether suited connectors are able to continue or not (unlike Ax type hands, which find themselves in a way-ahead-way-behind-situation more frequently).

Another important thing is "board coverage". If you do not openraise suited connector you won't be able to make money on 257 type flops vs. reasonable opponents because your UTG range does not cover those low cards.
It helps to represent flushes better or straights, which overall will be important when trying to win a hand without nuts.

However, most suited connector should achieve a positive EV by stealing pot pre in combination with flopping/improving to a nutted hand postflop.

Jan. 26, 2017 | 8:47 p.m.

Exactly. His value range (sets) has KK crushed. So when we actually raise ott we fold out bluffs and get all in vs sets, which is bad.

Jan. 24, 2017 | 8:09 p.m.

The reason for a calldown is more that he only reps 9 set combos for value and needs to get to the river with like 6 bluff combos to justify our call.

This should not automatically imply "call", but like A3 or A5 could go crazy here and sometimes they bluff with bottom pair type hands here. Therefore, I assume they can have enough bluffcombos otr on avg.

Jan. 24, 2017 | 7:18 p.m.

Without additional info I am going for a calldown. As you said, he should not really have a raising range at all otf.

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:48 p.m.

Snapcall for me. When they somehow call 4-bets oop they can have XcXc type hands, AJs, KJs 88-TT

if he really hit a flop set, you will print money by 4betting light vs him in the future because 66-22 should not get to the flop.

On the other hand, KK, AA are somewhat discounted because he will decide to 5bet shove those hands sometimes (or maybe even always).

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:46 p.m.

x/c Turn as he will often bet Kx by himself and then most likely x/decide River

As played fold ott

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:41 p.m.

Call otf. If you raise w/ 9c8c here you are probably overbluffing by raising every fd while you cannot rep KK because of preflop, you cannot rep two pair probably, so your only value raises are 88, 55. --> you don't want to raise many fd's here, but especially not your best ones. I'd raise Tc9c, Jc9c, QcTc, QcJc, if I actually choose to have a raising range at all otf. Villain coming from UTG, Kc otf and your hand results in him being very shallow on FDs in his range, thus we would not need to protect our sets as much.

As played you are committed and shoving will be okay.

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:39 p.m.

3bet otf to get it in.

As played bet bigger ott like 60-80% pot to protect your equity against a static calling range.
Vs x/r just shove for value vs AcX, sets

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:32 p.m.

Value Shove River vs. AQ, AJ, AT, maybe A7s
There is almost nothing that beats you. All draws busted he won't have 4x in his range (maybe sometimes A4s which is 1 combo or 44 also 1 combo)
KK, AA (also unlikely because you block them) will most likely 4bet pre, and 77 will fold a decent amount otf.

Put all of this together and he has on avg maybe 4 combos that have you beat in oppose to at least 8-12 (AQ-AT).

easy shove, even if villain finds folds with AT, AJ sometimes (on micros they call here too much rather than to little)

Jan. 24, 2017 | 1:28 p.m.

Hello folks!

Was inspired by Steve Paul's Database Reviews (great videos!) and noticed one leak: too low Postflop Agg%.

I know many micro stakes regs tend to be not aggressive enough postflop and I feel like this is my biggest weakness in my game atm.

My numbers are: 33/26/26 (Flop/Turn/River Agg%) over a sample of 80k hands

While Flop Agg% might be okay, though still on the lower side, Turn and River are way too low and I am losing EV on later streets.
Like in Steve Paul's videos, my Turn cbet success is quite low (37%) and my River cbet success very high (49%), which strengthens the believe that against the population I play against, I could increase my "off barrelling" a lot (notice that I could have been almost potting every River spot and yet would've yielded BE EV just by Fold Equity).

My first attempt after noticing this leak was "barrel more by barrelling every equity gains on later street", which was more of a mindset change.
Unfortunately, just trying to be more aggressive doesn't work for me as I still lack aggression on later streets.

How would you concretely work on this? Which methods do you recommend? What spots do I need to look at (like a full list in case I totally miss out on possible aggression spots)?

I appreciate every bit of help

Jan. 21, 2017 | noon

Thank you for advice so far. I like your ideas. So you basically go for bet/check/bet as long as you don't need to protect your 2 street value hand that much rather than bet/bet/check?

Jan. 19, 2017 | 4:16 p.m.

KQs has 42,91% equity vs. 88+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo+,KQo
I don't believe folding KQs ip vs a nit (probably bad at poker especially postflop) is making sense.

Jan. 19, 2017 | 3:06 p.m.

Hand History | Salatmann92 posted in NLHE: Bottom Set facing River x/r
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $35.31
SB: $26.53
BB: $34.39
UTG: $40.27
MP: $33.81
CO: $33.06 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with 4 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, BB calls $0.35
Flop ($1.30) 9 4 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.47, BB calls $0.47
This is my standard cbet size ip on such a flop
Turn ($2.24) 9 4 5 K
BB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BB calls $1.40
I did go for 2/3 pot, but maybe I should even go bigger because 5x, 66-88 fold to any size above 1/2 pot
River ($5.04) 9 4 5 K J
BB checks, Hero bets $3.30, BB raises to $11.86, Hero folds
bdfd hits, but also J9, K9, maybe some random KJ flop floats improve.
Is it okay to fold here or do we catch?
Final Pot BB wins $11.12
Rake is $0.52

Jan. 18, 2017 | 12:18 p.m.

Hand History | Salatmann92 posted in NLHE: TPGK vs missed cbet
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $86.89
SB: $25.45
BB: $25.65
UTG: $31.55
MP: $30.04 (Hero)
CO: $38.27
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is MP with Q K
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50
UTG is a 17/14 regular
Flop ($3.00) 6 K 5
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50
UTG does not cbet this flop, so I am discounting AK here. Therefore I value bet 1/2 pot. Should I bet bigger?
Turn ($6.00) 6 K 5 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.90, UTG raises to $10.62, Hero folds
After UTG's x/c on the Flop I put his range heavily towards 77-QQ, maybe KJs, KTs.
Then he x/r big (his turn agg% over 1.2k hands is 18) and I just give up, though I am lost here. He still could bluff FDs, and after his missed cbet 4-way I don't see him having that many value hands.
Final Pot UTG wins $11.27
Rake is $0.53

Jan. 18, 2017 | 12:12 p.m.

I actually have calculated % of 1-tabler for NL10-NL25 Zoom pools sporadically a few weeks ago.
There is not a difference at all it has been in the 30% area for all the pools.

Though one might consider that recs do take more time per hand because of more showdowns and longer decisions for trivial spots.
Thus I think the actual ratio for NL16 you might experience is lower and therefore tougher (assuming you 4-table).

Jan. 12, 2017 | 3:11 p.m.

No way you can fold this. You do get shown AA and KK sometimes. But aside from that he MAYBE squeezes TT and then we crush every other hand, like some squeezed Tx or JJ plus random spews.
Especially a call with your assumption of a wider sqz range because it makes it much more likely for him to have Tx or random spews.

Well played every street.

Jan. 12, 2017 | 3:06 p.m.

What do you want to achieve with a 4bet pf?
Asking this because I do not like a 4bet w/ AJs there.
Being 150bb deep you might want to consider shrinking your 4betting range rather than loosen it up. I find it hard to 4bet/call QQ or AK here this deep.
So without any reads, KK+, AQo seems like a good enough 4bet range (4bet/folding AQo).
This is a very narrow range and leaves us with a somewhat capped range if we only call 3bets, but for NL5 i dont think, we need to protect our calling range necessarily.

With such a small amount of 4bets we of course have to add several calling hands to defend enough, but 150bb deep I happily call 65s or A9s here.

Jan. 11, 2017 | 12:09 a.m.

Turn is a fold unless you have some specific information about Villain's post flop tendencies.
Pre is fine and on that flop we cannot let AK go for 1/2 pot.

Turn is kinda interesting as it pairs the board, which is usually slowing down bluffs, but it also brings a 2nd fd up, which maybe adds bd diamonds to their barreling range.

Considering NL2-NL25 (the stakes i have played), people tend to have very little barreling frequencies in 3bet pots, thus they mostly are pretty strong in those spots.
This is probably the main reason for folding turn.

On top of that, how does your turn range look after calling pre and calling flop?
You will have many overpairs and also a lot of fds on the turn, which all should be put into a turn calling range before considering AK.
Thus you will probably not overfold (given the odds and given your whole range), when you lay down AK.

Jan. 6, 2017 | 3:41 p.m.

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