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Bit late to the party but thanks for this! I'm planning on doing something similar

June 7, 2020 | 11:37 p.m.

Perfect timing, getting back into micro MTTs again after ~4 years off! Thanks for the video!

May 18, 2020 | 12:37 p.m.

Yeah I'm in the same boat, I'm ~9bb/100 through 1800 hands but rake is crushing me. Hoping to run a little closer to EV in the future... I am also playing PLO2 to learn but I'm questioning the efficacy of doing that. It seems at least 70% of the player pool treats PLO2 as a straight gambling den and just shoves in with any 4 most hands. I'm afraid this player pool would just start reinforcing my bad habits and am wondering if maybe I should just save up for a month or two until I have a roll enough to start playing at PLO25 or something.

May 18, 2020 | 12:35 p.m.

Post | SalmonShorts posted in PLO: Micro Stakes to Start At

Hey all,

I've been playing 2PLO and have played 5PLO in the past. Are these stakes even worth playing? I've played a few thousand hands and am a little under break-even, but All-In EV is +12 buyins. According to PT4, the "winning players" are every player I have (with significant sample size) that have been playing >65% VPIP and everyone less than that is losing. I know there's something to be said about being patient and beating the absolute micro stakes, but I'm wondering if it's more worth my time just watching videos, saving money and starting at 25PLO or something.

Anyone have any thoughts?

May 18, 2020 | 12:07 a.m.

These have been an incredible resource, thank you!

May 14, 2020 | 3:56 p.m.

I figured pair + NFD + backdoors were enough to call one street. Only hands that are crazy ahead are K8, 88 and 22 (ruled out KK due to limped pot / player pool), we have blocker against K8 and 88.

Ruling out KK was apparently wrong since we ran into exactly that hand, but given the way everyone was playing (and general assumptions about the 5PLO player pool) I had ruled it out at the time.

What's your reasoning behind a fold?

May 13, 2020 | 9:53 p.m.

Thanks for the reply. I figured as much there, I think with the outs I have it'd be probably somewhere in the 15% equity range, and I'm getting (if you include the rest of the guy's stack) something like 2.5:1, unless I'm mistaken. Definite fold. Thanks.

May 10, 2020 | 9:38 p.m.

Post | SalmonShorts posted in PLO: Unsure about turn spot

ACR deleted my hand history so writing it from memory, but unsure about a spot on the turn:

Villain - CO, 120bb
BU - ???bb, folds flop doesn’t matter
SB - 36bb
Hero - BB, 200bb

Limp / limp / limp to hero who checks w/ AQ98 all clubs

Flop (4bb) - Kc8h2c
Villain checks, SB bets 4bb (31bb remaining), hero calls, villain calls, BU folds

Turn (16bb) - Jd, so no BDFD
Villain checks, SB bets 16bb (15bb remaining), hero flats, villain raises to ~80bb. SB calls all-in. Hero?

In the moment I called, figuring I have no fold equity to raise (given SPR) and I can fold missed rivers. One pair, gutshot, nut flush draw seems good enough to go with, even if I'm blocking myself.

Looking back that seems bad, but I don't really have a reason why. A lot of the outs are self-blocked or no good (two-pair and 8x likely lose to sets, Jc pairs board).

Any thoughts?

May 10, 2020 | 4:10 p.m.

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