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Wow, that's really cool. Thanks for sharing. It's difficult to find reliable information about software since there are a lot of affiliate reviews in Google results. I'm playing micros to learn these concepts so don't mind a subscription cost along those lines. Looks like they don't support Ignition / Bovada, though.

July 31, 2021 | 3:01 p.m.

Yeah, I get similar stats for the 5NL pool over 20k hands and have started shot taking at 25NL where 3-betting seems more common, esp. from the blinds vs. CO + BTN. Also dug into pre-flop all-in ranges for full stacks vs. < 60bb stacks. While the pool is anonymous, short stacks are still more likely to be fish making donations than regs topping off. But in this case, I'm just looking at the hands. To my knowledge, PT4 doesn't let me export that as a count of specific hands or plug them into the range visualizer. I'd like to find a good tool to map some of these ranges and run equity calculations to improve my theoretical understanding of the game based on my actual player pool.

July 31, 2021 | 12:52 p.m.

I'd like to develop a stronger theoretical understanding precisely because it helps with my mental game and I'm intrinsically interested in databases and statistics, which is what drew me to Ignition Zone. I'm not sure what tools people use to evaluate how to respond to ranges in their player pools in specific situations, e.g. getting 3b! from the BB after a button raise vs. a likely average reg.

July 30, 2021 | 1:55 p.m.

I'd rather start learning those concepts now than wait till I'm getting owned at 200NL. :)

July 29, 2021 | 7:36 p.m.

Thanks, guys! I mean "creating your own call/fold/3b ranges as a function of population's RFI and 3b ranges" as Brokenstars put it.

RaoulFlush I've run two types of reports on PT4. The global report, excluding Hero, was helpful for getting an approximation of ranges in different spots, but I also ran a hands report and excluded Hero. This revealed some funny things like how often other players 4bet with trash hands in this pool. I'd like to be able to plug those tendencies into a range or equity calculator (not sure what to call it) to figure out what optimal play would be against them.

Again, I'm saying all this knowing ABC poker is still the way to go with this pool, just wondering how it affects decisions like calling a pre-flop all-in vs. a spazzy small stack vs. a more-likely-to-be-a-reg full stack

July 29, 2021 | 3:23 p.m.

Thanks! That's super helpful. Pardon me if this is too technical, but in Poker Tracker 4 I know how to do things like analyze the Zoom player pool's RFI from various positions. What I'm not able to do is then take that data and make a (correctly weighted) range for folding, calling + 3b in response. It seems like there are a lot of software solutions for this sort of thing, but I'm not familiar with them. And I might not "need" that to beat 5NL, but I'd rather learn those skills now and am intrinsically interested in them anyway.

July 28, 2021 | 11:10 p.m.

Thanks! I'm interested in the math and database work for its own sake since it has applications outside poker to me, too.

July 28, 2021 | 3:59 p.m.

Hey, all - I have some basic poker knowledge and a PT4 database. Have read Grinder's Manual + BlackRain's Crushing the Micros. Besides "From the Ground Up" what should I be checking out on here? I have experience with HUDS, but not with solvers.

I like the speed of the action on Zoom and it seems soft when I'm not trying to bluff calling stations. :)


July 28, 2021 | 2:12 p.m.

Post | SquatPraxis posted in Chatter: Building calling ranges

Hey, there - Newbie-ish question. I know how to use PT4 to figure out what the non-Hero player pool is raising, calling 3-betting, etc. with from various positions. What tools do I use (online, free, paid) to developing calling and raising ranges based on my population? What video series should I start with for these questions?

July 27, 2021 | 9:40 p.m.

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