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Wysedroid

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Thanks a lot for your constructive feedback - I will take all these points to heart.

I know what you mean by this and how destructive it can be: "by forcing your redline to become better" - I have had a hell of a time doing exactly this the last couple of weeks and as you can imagine it has not gone well... Going back to basics to get my head straight for a bit.

June 15, 2022 | 6:28 a.m.

Hi everyone,

I'm really down on myself lately as I've been basically breakeven for the last 250k hands or so. Main game is 50/100nl 6max with about 60% of it at 50nl. I've been playing for many years and I've never been in this bad of a stretch before - basically 5 months of this. I would say its definitely not run-bad and I'm definitely doing something wrong. Is my graph really telling without going into detail of my stats or anything? My red-line is pretty horrible - at first I thought it was normal since "nobody folds" at these stakes but I think that's a big flaw in my thinking and maybe that's exactly where the problem is. Not bluffing or being aggro enough? Anyway, if there is anything you can glean from this alone please let me know as it's getting to me....I'm slowly but surely getting locked into a fetal position over here...

June 11, 2022 | 3:11 p.m.

I think a better answer is to say - just dont use it? It would be so infrequent and its not something you want to balance anyway, so i would shy away from it.
The only board that comes to mind is on something like AAK, A turn or K turn. you are "SO far ahead" range vs range that you can bet whatever you want really, but 1/3 comes to mind, or even smaller

May 1, 2022 | 5:48 p.m.

  1. Is this a 3bet pre? If not, why not?
    No its not and its quite bad deep oop. Why? Because you get yourself into exactly into spots like these. You're in a bloated pot, oop, with a hand that only makes good top pairs - which is what you dont want when you're 500 deep. BIG theory mistake that turned into a practical error
  2. Happy with flop and turn?
    I havent run this but I would think that solver would hate a bet here, especially that big becuase getting raised would be horrible with this hand, oop & deep. Even if you look at a SRP a solver would x a lot here in your shoes - AGain, i bet that would be magnified when you're this deep.
  3. If we check river and villain shove, what do we do?
    If you xF river and he shows you a busted flush draw then good for him, but 1. you got yourself into this unnecessary scenario and 2. a weak, tight reg is almost never bluffing here - at least WAY not enough for you to consider hero-calling with tpgk in a 1000bb pot

May 1, 2022 | 5:29 p.m.

Flatting AK can be good for reasons like this hand precisely. Doesnt make your 3bt with this hand bad by any means though and its still good vs field.
But, your turn play is very bad EV-wise vs field. It depends on the opp whether to bet or x, but if you're going to bet its a bet-F by a long margin with no s in your hand

May 1, 2022 | 5:21 p.m.

Your play is somewhat standard/good but i think there are some underlying flaws in your thinking:
Can I starting bluff with this hand OTF after SB check?

Yoou're not bluffing - you're value betting/protecting

I'm not sure if I have too much SDV to turn my hand into a bluff.
Correct, but again, you're VBing

My plan is to barrell OTT & OTR when board is good for my range.
River barrel would be bad unless you think your opp would call his AK-type hands. You dont need to protect anymore on the river as its usually 100 / 0% equity

As played, should I bet OTT?
Yes, for reason above.

2 major things:
1. Opps at these stakes are heavily unbalanced toward weak / missed hands when they check
2. This should depend a lot on how opp plays as you will have to F vs xr so you can think about how that affects your actions. But, again, i would still bet cause of reason #1

May 1, 2022 | 5:18 p.m.

All the answers here are spot on IMO. The only 2 cents I would add is that, as a general rule at these stakes, river overbets are generally not a bluff and are way unbalanced toward value.

May 1, 2022 | 5:10 p.m.

There are already good preflop charts out there. As a micro player i would NOT spend (waste?) any time looking into this yourself. Get some good charts and learn to play slightly different than/deviate from those charts as exploits. You can work with equilab after

May 1, 2022 | 5:07 p.m.

To answer your question, the answer is yes 100%. The only issue is that most micro/low stakes players wont look to "punish" you for this so it works well.
I would say that you are def thinking in the right direction for moving up. This is most certainly a thing at higher stakes where you actually have to watch what you do vs the better players.

May 1, 2022 | 5:04 p.m.

It makes you very easy to play against and lets opp basically call 100% (never fold) vs you pre knowing he will get to see 4 cards for free. This, by definition, makes it a bad play. Doing something 100% in poker is rarely a good strategy

April 16, 2022 | 9:02 a.m.

Checking river is very bad.
1. you lose a lot more $ than you make because you always xc when you're beat and never capitalize vs his worse hds. this is not even close to made up by his bluffs.
2. it messes up your 3 brl range terribly weighting you toward bluffs.
You let your opp off the hook and makes you easy to play against - the opposite of what you're going for

April 16, 2022 | 8:53 a.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on kk in 4pb 150bb deep

You 4bt to a size that makes it possible for you to have bluffs - anywhere in the 20-22 range is prob fine/ideal.
OTR in a 4bt pot there's not much by way of sizing so... 'vs all sizes' basically yes. But, you generally want to be betting the river after barreling instead of x-calling as a general rule. (easier to balance, etc, etc)

Dec. 20, 2021 | 6:19 p.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on Ak river vs AI

Shitty spot for sure, but the problem is he has 'something' and people dont usually bluff raise all in w 'something' - they would just bluff-catch

Dec. 4, 2021 | 1:03 p.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on kk in 4pb 150bb deep

Your sizings are questionable on every street. When you 4bt to that size after utg open you isolate yourself vs a super tight range (i would also bet that you dont make it that size w your bluffs).
Then you dont really give him an option to do anything stupid otf with no draws out there.
On the river you are basically saying "You can call AA and JJ and comfortably fold everything else" (or chop KK)
You're not allowing him to make a mistake anywhere and you're almost turning a nutt-ish hand into a bluff (as in, you're basically at the top of your range)

Dec. 4, 2021 | 1:01 p.m.

Sometimes you just have to get stacked...and not getting stacked in these spots can potentially be a huge mistake - that's poker.

Nov. 20, 2021 | 4:20 p.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on JJ 3b pot OOP

JJ-AA are not even close to being that same - with or without a spade. TT beats all the sets he would be jamming with (since we obv dont think he only shoves flushes and 5's).
Shitty spot for sure but I would bet Pio folding a lot of JJ no spade here. You have a ton of better calling hds i think.

Nov. 3, 2021 | 3:06 p.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on 98s missed FD

The problem is this is almost a 100% cbt board for a UTG raiser - so when he xC's he's basically going into xc mode... Not only that, but more hands will call now that it's less likely you have an A on the river.
Your particular hand is prob fine to do this as you dont have much worse....kinda meh though.

Nov. 3, 2021 | 3:02 p.m.

Don't know about any videos since this is so specific; But it seems you already have an idea what sort of adjustments you should be making. The bigger the straddle the lower your effective stacks are, which means you should loosening up considerably. Buying in lower is probably a good idea since your variance is going to go through the roof. Also, as an exploit, I would bet your opps would not be adjusting properly and the more aggro you become the more they will over-fold (as in, folding a lot more than they should).
I've been in similar games with lots of bomb pots, which is a more extreme example of this situation, and you are put in crappy spots when you and one other guy are deep and rest of table short... If everyone is deep then its a different story.

Nov. 3, 2021 | 8:35 a.m.

Hellz yeah!

Nov. 2, 2021 | 6:34 p.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on 3B linear

On the surface, this may seem like a general question in a vacuum. But you have to take a LOT more into account than just 'what's my 3bt range' - because this changes other ranges... For example, If you never have a flat range here then if you add KQo and KQs then you might be over-3btting and your opp can 4bt you wide and exploit you. Also, you need to take your opponent into account a ton here - does he call 3bts a lot? Does he 4bt? If he calls a ton, then you might add all the KQs/o cause you will realize equity, if he 4bts a ton then your 'wasting' the value of the hand since you will have to fold to the 4bt, etc, etc. Start here and see how the big picture affects your decisions and ranges.
Personally, I 3bt 99/KQs most of the time vs unknowns and go from there, and vs other opps I only flat [probably because they 4bt too much], but then sometimes add 99 to my 3bt-5bt jam range. The more you think about these things the more ev you will have on your opp than he will have on you.

Nov. 2, 2021 | 3:15 p.m.

Min 25 you 3bt to 14bbs from bb vs co 2.5. Can you explain your reasoning behind this? It seems that, even in theory, this just cant be justified? Your opp can just exploit you by over-folding cant he? You put your opp in basically a 4bt-or-fold situation which is great with 65s, but then your opp doesn't call with any hands you have a 'card-advantage' against with your other value hands- basically you MAKE him fold correctly or continue with hands that you dont have much of a card advantage against.
A few hands later on right table you cold-4bt AQs to 20 which is only 6 bbs more - so again, even theory-wise, something is way off here. Squeezing to 14 is even kinda large let alone 3bting a 2.5x raise...
Great video with great commentary - thanks!

Oct. 30, 2021 | 8:03 a.m.

Great commentary - very informative.
Want to add that seeing the hands you were folding was very insightful as well, definitely adds value imo.
Nice one.

Oct. 19, 2021 | 6:36 p.m.

^This
The only caveat I would add is that opps are also imbalanced toward xr too much in these spots too with like their QQ-type hds. So vs those we xb more (unless we want to be xr'd obv), vs the typical opps with too-weak Xing ranges I follow above.

Sept. 13, 2021 | 2:55 p.m.

Your hand looks like what it is and he's betting (sizing) for a call on the river. You ever do this with like AJ/T yourself? As a general rule, you just have to protect yourself here and someone 3barling you when YOU have the good A's means your toast (generally).

Sept. 3, 2020 | 1:56 a.m.

Your play is obv slightly ok to do once in a blue moon vs right opp and if done with any sort of real frequency you'll be losing a ton of $.
Now river, the only problem is that he doesn't really have any bluffs... He would x back all hands you beat. I would bet that at these stakes opp's would even x back KQ here.

Sept. 3, 2020 | 1:53 a.m.

Calling 'hoping' he doesn't fire is no good. Make a note and move on; sometimes raise flop, sometimes raise turn, but in this hand fold on the turn without a h. Donks generally aren't 'middle pr' as much as they're 'weakness'. But here he barrels big and you have 0 backup. Calling turn is a leak.

Sept. 3, 2020 | 1:48 a.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on A Very Standard Spot

I know this was a few months ago but I just wanted to give positive feedback on this video (and this type of video). Just extremely helpful, insightful, and directly implementable. Excellent stuff.

March 16, 2020 | 12:46 a.m.

Knock Knock
Who's there
Tank
Tank who
You're welcome

Sept. 18, 2017 | 4:19 a.m.

TOTALLY relate - nice video.
Looking forward to part 2.

Sept. 7, 2017 | 6:03 a.m.

Comment | Wysedroid commented on z50

The question isnt really whether this line is ok (which it is), but whether you can use this line with other hands so ur opp doesnt catch on that u do this w drws and would barrel with, say, AA. This is the typical stack-a-donk line so, for the most part, it's easy to add overpairs here too.

You also have the added benefit that it exploits ur opps tendency to over-bet when xt to in these situations.

Aug. 12, 2017 | 3:09 a.m.

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