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Zy5io

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Thank you for your detailed answer!
I totally agree with all you wrote, but Peter is talking here exactly about SBvBU 3bet spot:

In fact later there, he is talking about BUvCO 3bet in the example hand
Is there any chance to contact you, via skype for example to talk a little bit more about this cbetting topic? I have PIO and GTO+ with flopzilla pro, I could prepare some report for analysis.
If skype is ok for you (live:tiltyourvibe / [email protected])
Actually whole this 3bet pots section of FTGU seems to be messed up a bit. In the next episode "3-Bet Pots - Polarizing" flop KJ9r is given as example of "significant equalization" - where equity is very favourable for us and even small rangebet seems good.

Jan. 21, 2021 | 1:46 p.m.

Here are simulations outputs:
"Full" solver strategy:

33%pot rangebet (do not care about colours - this solver is quite handicapped in this matter):

Jan. 18, 2021 | 10:24 p.m.

Hi,

First thing - I just try to learn something. If I did something wrong in my analysis, please tell me! If anything will sounds offensive - it's just my english skills fault ;)

I'm studying cbetting (again...) and I'm trying to crystalize some rules about flop play. I mean more than "dry - bet small often, wet - bet big not often", because it doesn't seem to always apply, especially in 3bet pot.
I decided to prepare solver simulations for different flops and compare them to rules that my favourite trainers give to create my own set of such rules. I started with my absolute favourite one, Peter Clarke and I found this::

I was never convinced to Peter's "Flops that do not change preflop situation" rule, because 3bet callers have a lot of pockets 22-JJ, some QQ on the BUvSB (on lower stakes also from ealier positions). All of these are going to call our cbets and gives us a tough spots on many turns, OOP it's a quite wild ride.

Anyway, I was always using big size (75%pot) on such boards and now I checked it with solver.
I know, ranges preflop are always debatable. I used "gto" ranges (probably for mid+ stakes) but it doesn't seem to be far different from nl25 regs ranges..
...And it seems like I was right. 744r is one of the worst flops for rangebet and actually it it ever worse that JhTh7d that was given as "bad flop for rangebet" - actually it is quite good for it (probably because 2 big cards).

EV of oryginal strategy (75%pot / 33%pot / check) = 10.62bb (and solver uses almost only 75% bet)
EV of rangebet 33% = 10.20bb <- that gives 0.42bb/hand = 42bb/100hand lost.*
(when rangebet on JhTh7d - which was given as "bad example" - loses only 14bb/100, so not that bad.)

What do you think guys?
Maybe Peter could answer and lighten it a little bit for me.

Jan. 18, 2021 | 10:23 p.m.

Hello Steve,,
I really like the idea and format I hope for more similar videos in the future.
I often do such simulations by myself and I still have problem to build this "intuition" when I should use big or small cbet sizing. Boards like AAJ = small bet and 533 = big bet are pretty obvious for me, but I always have problems with boards like K32r Q82r (high card, dry) that seems for me to be perfect for small frequent bet, but simulations say different.
I was hoping for digging little bit more into these spots, at 13:00 I was pretty unhappy that we just move into practice. ;)
Of course that is just my feeling, but if there will be more similar comments, maybe it would make sense to extend "theory" part in the next videos.

Thanks!

Jan. 10, 2021 | 12:21 p.m.

Comment | Zy5io commented on QJs on flush board

I don't understand why didn't you bet that turn, you can get value from KQ, AK played preflop by call, sometimes KJs, AhQ, AhJ, 99, he may have 66, even weird played KK...
(on nl2 you can expect also calls from some random hand that you wouldn't even imagine :D)
I'm not afraid of flopped-flush vs flopped-flush situation in 3 bet pot.
IMO you should bet big this turn, or X/R.

Jan. 17, 2020 | 6:16 p.m.

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