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Hand History | alienist posted in NLHE: Correct fold on turn shove?
Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) SB: $2.00
BB: $3.67 (Hero)
UTG: $1.02
MP: $2.00
CO: $1.90
BN: $2.00
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BB with K 7
2 folds, CO raises to $0.04, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.02
Flop ($0.09) 5 6 7
Hero checks, CO bets $0.05, Hero calls $0.05
Turn ($0.19) 5 6 7 K
Hero checks, CO bets $0.09, Hero raises to $0.29, CO raises to $1.81 and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot CO wins $0.74
Rake is $0.03

March 27, 2018 | noon

I agree with everything that has been said. About the sizing, I noticed that a lot of good regulars open like 3.5x or 4x UTG in general (w or wo fish left to act behind), but I personally don't think it's a good play. I guess it's because they don't want MP or CO to call and give everyone else too good odds to call and play a famiy pot OOP... But when you have a strong holding, you don't want to kill action.
I prefer to always stick to same sizings (except SB vs BB) and try to make good post flop decisions

Oct. 12, 2016 | 10:43 a.m.

Oct. 12, 2016 | 10:26 a.m.

  1. Hands like JT, QT, KT bets OTT.

But don't you think Ax or any better hand than ours would bet OTT as well?
I think there are some second best hands and backdoor draws in his range that would float the flop IP that he decides to bluff OTR when action goes check, check, check.

I think folding is a mistake

Sept. 30, 2016 | 9:19 a.m.

I guess it depends on the table. I usually won't defend weak aces verse UTG, but I'll see a lot of people show up with Ax hands verse UTG. I just think it makes playing your hand way harder than it needs to be.

The purpose is to flop straights, flushes and flush draws. Not top pair! Just like you would open 55 UTG and ditch it if you didn't hit your set
That's why I think opening A4s UTG is better than for example A6s.
But yeah, better not open too often

Sept. 28, 2016 | 7:59 p.m.

I agree. ATs is the bottom of my UTG opening range here. But I don't think it's terrible to open suited Aces UTG at 2NL either

Sept. 28, 2016 | 7:28 p.m.

I can see him calling your cbet with A2, A4, 34s, 23s, 89s, T8s, J9s, K9s, Q9s, 79s, also any backdoor flush. He might also peel with some pocket pairs. Also with all Aces that beat you. But he wouldn't check the turn, I don't think so.

And as I said. When it goes check, check, check, he is way more likely to bluff.

Sept. 28, 2016 | 7:26 p.m.

What worse hands do you see in his range?

Any reasonable combination of 3x, 9x, 7x, as well as small pocket pairs, A2 and A4. Maybe TJs TQs and TKs. Given that CO called I think his there are lots of weak hands in his calling range.
If villain had a good hand on the turn he would have probably bet. And imo if he had a strong hand he would size his river bet smaller to be sure to get calls.

When action goes check, check, check I expect him to bluff a lot with all his weaker hands.

Sept. 28, 2016 | 7:11 p.m.

Hi Alabrada,

do you have any stats or reads on the villain? Very important!
Against an unkown NL2 player I personally would cbet the turn and check/call the river. You're out of posistion with top pair bad kicker, so I don't think triple barrelling is very good when he calls a second time. Since CO called I expect BTNs range to very wide, so cbetting the turn is good imo, to narrow his range and not let him see the river for free.

Checking turn and river as you have played it you definitely have to call his river bet. You need to be right 27% of the time and you have like 50%+ equity.

Sept. 28, 2016 | 6:56 p.m.

Comment | alienist commented on Your favorite stats?

My favorite "non standard" stats are positional awareness and PF limp to spot strong/weak players instantly (I have those highlighted) and also float flop / fold to flop float bet + probe turn / fold to probe turn bet. Also fold to flop 2bet is very nice in combination with flop cbet and flop aggresion factor (donk flop too).

It's an interesting thread I think, maybe we can revice it :D I know many people don't like to have many stats in their HUD and prefer pop ups, but I like to have some more stats at first glance. With nice color coding it's helpful to make quick decisions when multi tabling.

What kind of non standard stats did you incorporate into your HUD that others may not have?

edit: just realized that this is mid stakes PLO xD but I guess it doesn't make a big difference

Sept. 28, 2016 | 2:13 p.m.

Update

Just tilted off everything. I think there's like 2$ left on my account.

This afternoon I was very happy with the results of the day and shut down the computer because a friend came over. Afterwards I switched it back on again and believe it or not. One bad beat after another. Incompetent players hitting miracle rivers frequently...

When I began running bad I thought to myself "it's just variance. Just keep playing focused". But people around would constantly make very bad plays. That made me angry. It made me angry that people were raising 96s from UTG calling my (healthy sized) 3bets with KK and sucking out on me... I began playing unfocused post flop and missed key moments and even timed out on some tables without noticing it.

My anger shifted towards frustration but in a way that made me very indifferent. So I moved up in stakes. You know the rest.

I think that at this point it doesn't make sense to reload and to continue playing poker. At least for a while. Uni starts in two and a half weeks and I have a big neuro exam coming up so I need some time to study anyways.
On the other hand I think it's kind of a waste because if I would not tilt I would be making some extra €€€.

What do you think about getting mental game coaching? There's this guy Luke from the UK, plays on PokerStars under the name 'SonOfBadger'. Thought about getting a coaching session with him. I think someone would be good that doesn't only scratch on the surface but digs a bit deeper. Do you have any (affordable) recommendations?

Of course it sucks to have lost everything but it's also a bit of a relief and a clear sign that I need to make a change. Maybe the realization I'll come to is to never play poker again. Poker is such a great game though that I want to keep studying and improving on, but first things first!

Sept. 28, 2016 | 1:07 a.m.

Hand History | alienist posted in NLHE: Fold too tight?
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (5 Players) CO: $10.23
BN: $9.22 (Hero)
SB: $28.74
BB: $9.37
UTG: $10.25
Preflop ($0.15) Hero is BN with 6 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20
Flop ($0.65) 7 9 8
BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.57, BB calls $0.47
Turn ($1.79) 7 9 8 5
BB checks, Hero bets $0.71, BB calls $0.71
River ($3.21) 7 9 8 5 J
BB bets $7.79 and is all in, Hero folds
Final Pot BB wins $3.00
Rake is $0.21

Sept. 27, 2016 | 11:09 p.m.

Start questioning why you feel certain emotions and what's really causing that.

Yes! I need to get to the root of the problem. I know that something deep inside of me is causing that behaviour. It's a manifestation of an inner unsolved problem. Unfortunately I don't really know what it is and where to start looking.

Nothing is happening without a reason. There has to be a reason why
you tilt so hard that you're spewing your bankroll.

I don't know if you mean at that way, but I think it's (generally) interesting to not only look for causes in the past, but also for reasons why wo do a certain behaviour -> What's the goal? (Teleology)
For example, a man comes home after work, is in a bad mood and starts an argument with his wife. His goal is certainly not to get into a fight after already having had a bad day, but maybe to get appreciation or affection from his wife.
Maybe this is a bad example, but my point is that sometimes destructive behaviour doesn't have to have its roots only in the past but we do it in order to get something. Or it could also be an excuse for something else, so we can shake off certain responsibilities.

Interesting way to think about it, too.

Sept. 27, 2016 | 9:45 p.m.

my next suggestion is talk to a professional.

What kind of professional?

Sept. 27, 2016 | 10:38 a.m.

Comment | alienist commented on 89o blind defense

against anyone who is capable of understanding range interactions in board textures its just a losing play. BTN can just raise any two cards and bomb most runouts and there will be nothing BB can do

I'm afraid I don't quite understand. By bomb you mean he'll win on most runouts Because he's IP or why is that?
I mean button's range is wider than SB's defending range, right? So AKx is better for our range than villains in this spot, or not? So when we expect him to raise we can just reraise on top :D

Would this be a very stupid line to take? Sry maybe this is a stupid quesion. I'm still learning :)

Sept. 27, 2016 | 1:57 a.m.

Thanks for all the great advice. Also very good to get this off my chest.

Grab a copy of MGOP, probably a good place to start.

I can recommend reading "The Mental Game of Poker" 1&2 by Jared Tendler. It's a great book to get to the roots of your tilt and has helped many poker players.

I actually already posess the audio book by Jared Tendler and started listening to it. Also I purchased one of Elliot Roe's mindest MP3s. I was always a little sceptical about them but there was a discount on all MP3s because of the WCOOP. I listened to it once before my session, it didn't seem to help my winrate, but I'll keep listening to it and see if it helps...

Set deposit limit in "resonsible gambling" section. Cash out. Come back later in a couple of days.

On PS I have set a deposit limit. I have had that for a long time and it's very good to have it, so I don't get tempted to reload once I waste it all.
Right now I play mostly on ipoker network (bet-at-home). They don't offer stakes limits or deposit limits unfotunately.

Also try to exercise, you will feel better as a result, which will
calm you down.

Great advice. I do have a membership at the gym but haven't been there for 3 months. About time I do some exercise again :D

There is personality that needs this monkey tilt for something. Find
it. Find what this personality thoughts and beliefs are. Find what
this personality gets when you are movingup on stakes on tilt or while
playing hyperturobos.

What do you mean by personality needs tilt? I'm afraid I don't quite understand...

There are also Essential videos on mental game here on RIO. You can
find them in the Learning Path.

Thanks. I have watched part 1 of Session Preparation by Leszek Badurowicz. It's not bad, but not really what I was looking for. Would love to see Tommy Angelo's videos, unfortunately only for elite subscription

I have a question for you all.

If you had to give the mental / psycholgical aspect of the game a percentage, how would it compare to the technical aspect? I realize that one is the necessity to the other but still I think that would be interesting to hear.

Sept. 27, 2016 | 1:44 a.m.

Comment | alienist commented on 89o blind defense

Just yesterday I read a post on 2+2 about donk betting. Might interest you.

COTW: Donk Betting

Donk betting @ AKX BB vs BTN SRP is a terrible play

Is it really so terrible? Expexting to get lots of folds. Buttons opening range will have a hard time continuing on this board. I don't think it's a great play and you should do it all the time, but I think there is gerneally value in donk betting (rarely) against certain opponents.

Sept. 26, 2016 | 8:46 p.m.

Comment | alienist commented on River bluff

You have 27 hands on the villain so looking at fold to 3bet is pointless.

F3B stat is on the initial raiser (CO).

If you are capable of checking some Ax on the turn (which I think should be bet ott most of the time) then I don't hate the raise otr.

I probably would bet Ax on the turn, but I still think that the line seems more or less credible.

Sept. 26, 2016 | 8:23 p.m.

Comment | alienist commented on FUCK

What do we beat on the river though? We only beat weaker aces. I honestly think we can find a fold on this river, but I'm just a nit.

Your're right. In retrospect tending strongly towards folding. Especially since villain is unknown.
When I called I kind of knew I was beat. BIG LEAK in my game. Having difficulties folding to river raises with strong hands.

Sept. 26, 2016 | 8:16 p.m.

Comment | alienist commented on FUCK

You're absolurtely right. 4bet should be standard here. CO was unknown to me, so seing the 3bet to an UTG raise, I wanted to proceed with caution... or maybe I wanted to disguise my hand, I don't know what I was thinking

Sept. 26, 2016 | 8:11 p.m.

Hand History | alienist posted in NLHE: FUCK
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20 (6 Players) BB: $27.29 (Hero)
UTG: $18.54
MP: $21.00
CO: $21.01
BN: $9.64
SB: $8.22
Preflop ($0.30) Hero is BB with K A
UTG raises to $0.40, MP folds, CO raises to $0.80, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60, UTG folds
Flop ($2.10) A 8 A
Hero checks, CO bets $1.47, Hero calls $1.47
Turn ($5.04) A 8 A 4
Hero checks, CO bets $5.04, Hero calls $5.04
River ($15.12) A 8 A 4 6
Hero checks, CO bets $13.70 and is all in, Hero calls $13.70
Final Pot CO wins $40.52
Rake is $2.00

Sept. 26, 2016 | 5:14 p.m.

Hand History | alienist posted in NLHE: River bluff
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (4 Players) SB: $4.95
BB: $1.85
CO: $8.14
BN: $5.89 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BN with 8 9
CO raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.00, BB folds, CO folds, Hero calls $0.60
Flop ($2.17) 4 2 A
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn ($2.17) 4 2 A 9
SB checks, Hero checks
River ($2.17) 4 2 A 9 A
SB bets $1.08, Hero raises to $4.89 and is all in, SB folds
Final Pot BN wins $4.05
Rake is $0.28

Sept. 26, 2016 | 11:33 a.m.

Hand History | alienist posted in NLHE: Fold full house?
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (5 Players) BB: $5.07
UTG: $15.56
CO: $8.49 (Hero)
BN: $5.00
SB: $5.69
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 3 folds
Flop ($0.37) 8 5 A
UTG bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37
Turn ($1.11) 8 5 A A
UTG bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11
River ($3.33) 8 5 A A 8
UTG bets $13.93 and is all in, Hero calls $6.86 and is all in
Final Pot UTG wins $16.55
Rake is $0.50
Villain shows quads. Just yesterday I lost with a full house against 4 eights. What are the odds!?! xD

Sept. 25, 2016 | 2:39 p.m.

Post | alienist posted in Chatter: Insane monkey tilt. Help!

Tonight I tilted off the bigger part of my bankroll (again). Everytime I have built a decent bankroll I tilt it off in a matter of hours. It usually starts by losing 2 or 3 buy-ins in a row. Then I get impatient and start making very lose calls and finally I move up in stakes or play lots of hyper turbos.
Tonight after having lost 10+ buy-ins I decided to call it a night and closed the program. Later, for some reason I opened it again and started pressing buttons again like a monkey...

I notice that the frequency of going on tilt is getting less! So that's good I guess. But it keeps happening and when it does, I always waste a lot of money.

Did or does this happen to you, too? What are you doing / have you done to overcome this problem? Do you do pre sesion warm ups? Breaks? Also what's your "emergency strategy"?
I am interested in what has worked best for YOU so far and your process of mastering the mental game.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Sept. 25, 2016 | 12:14 a.m.

Sept. 24, 2016 | 7:57 p.m.

Hand History | alienist posted in Chatter: PokerStars Weekly Chromstar+ Bust
Blinds: t10/t20 (9 Players) MP+2: 915
CO: 4,000
BN: 1,440
SB: 1,480
BB: 1,460
UTG: 1,440 (Hero)
UTG+1: 1,500
MP: 1,640
MP+1: 2,575
Preflop (30) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to 50, UTG+1 calls 50, MP folds, MP+1 calls 50, 3 folds, SB calls 40, BB calls 30
Flop (250) 8 T 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 137, UTG+1 calls 137, MP+1 folds, SB folds, BB folds
Turn (524) 8 T 9 8
Hero bets 235, UTG+1 calls 235
River (994) 8 T 9 8 6
Hero bets 546, UTG+1 raises to 1,078 and is all in, Hero calls 472 and is all in
Final Pot UTG+1 wins and shows four of a kind, Eights.
UTG lost and shows a full house, Nines full of Eights.
UTG+1 wins 3,030

Sept. 24, 2016 | 4:59 p.m.

I don't like to 3bet here PF, because we would have to fold to a 4bet. I would rather play a suited ace in position and, as you said, keep the fish in the pot.

I just looked up two low stakes 6max PF charts. They actually recommend folding vs MP open raise. I think that's too tight though. You could maybe argue folding A6s and A7s because they have a tiny bit less equity...

Sept. 24, 2016 | 12:25 p.m.

I think 200+ hands on PFR is enough to have a good idea of what his range looks like. I mean opening any pair from MP isn't actually too bad. He might have those in his range, but it's not very likely he hit. If his cbet stat were like less than 40% than I would maybe be worried when the board pairs.

Sept. 24, 2016 | 9:52 a.m.

I would raise the flop, expecting MP to peel with all of his pairs and overcards. He might even reraise there and you could happily call or depending on your table image even shove. The board is also good for fish's range, so he might call as well. When he checks on the turn I would bet like little less than half pot.
On the river I am not scared when the board pairs. Maybe he has 88, but it's only 6 out of like 156 combinations. I think he would fold fives and lower PF! On this flop I expect villain to cbet his whole range! betting doesn't narrow it down imo.

Sept. 24, 2016 | 8:40 a.m.

I think that this player type turn their cards face up when they raise the river. you're right he's probably almost never blufing here, BUT I wouldn't be very surprised either if they show up with something like pocket jacks or maybe a flopped second pair that they think is the nuts and decide to "slowplay". Looking at the odds I only need to be right 20% of the time...

Sept. 24, 2016 | 8:16 a.m.

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