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Ben Grise

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I would check back flop to pot control especially only having the king of diamonds, ace of diamonds might be a different story, but even then checking back flop, if you do hit your diamond it's tough for him to put you on it if you ck back flop.

May 20, 2015 | 5:47 a.m.

Amazing video! Thanks guys looking forward to more of these. Pure Cash you put him on the broadway gut shot on turn and then folded! Go with your 1st instinct!

May 20, 2015 | 4:53 a.m.

The limping of the AA at the 27:20 minute mark made me feel better after seeing you do that. I was deep in a tournament in the exact same situation, and limped AA utg because stack sizes were similar, and it was on Bovada where everyone is a random. The The flop came 732 and we get it in. He had 73. I was beating myself up for limping, but felt like if I had raised it was going to be tough to get action.

May 19, 2015 | 3:06 a.m.

What about HH review? Wouldnt that be sufficient?

May 13, 2014 | 2:46 a.m.

41:45, why don't you over call with 99 here?  I'm guessing it has more to do with philborts post flop play than it has to do with you being worried about the original raising putting in a 4bet? 

Jan. 23, 2014 | 8:51 a.m.

Yes no maybe so?

Jan. 23, 2014 | 6:58 a.m.

At 21:47 you defend with T9o from the BB.  At what effective stack sizes do you avoid defending marginal hands from the BB to a late position open?  I see he his roughly 29 bb to start the hand.  Would you fold if he was open min raising 15-20bb deep.  I see more and more players open min raising with smaller effective stacks.  At some point do you see 3b shoving wider on a 15-20bb effective stack becoming the norm?

Jan. 15, 2014 | 5:38 a.m.

I think you can only 3b in that spot if you plan on 5betting or calling if he shoves.  Haven't watched enough videos to know how Grayson plays post flop, but you have to assume with his results that he is confident enough in his post flop play that he thinks calling is the better option rather than getting in 40-50bbs pre with AQ


Jan. 15, 2014 | 5:31 a.m.

You are only squeezing there if you think that your opponents are capable of 4b light or the sb is capable of a 4b back raise shove.  In a high stakes tournament I certainly like squeezing, but in a tournament like or in a live tournament with weaker players believe me when I say if you get 4b shoved on from the ep raiser than the only hand you're ahead of a lot of times is AK

Jan. 15, 2014 | 5:28 a.m.

I think opening is better than folding, and folding is better than shoving.  You're open there looks so strong.  If you get flatted by a good player then it makes your play easy post flop.  If a fish flats you then you have a little bit of trouble playing the hand out of position.  I like jamming the least because you're almost never ahead when you get called.

Jan. 15, 2014 | 5:20 a.m.

Around the 14 minute mark you talk about having to have some play ability to your hand when 4betting due to the nature of how small the 3 bets are and how often people are 3b defending.  However, earlier in this video you mentioned how Timoshenko was chipping up quite easily when 4betting or squeezing.  What are some hands that Timoshenko was doing this with.  Or what types of hands are good to 4bet steal or squeeze steal with?

Aug. 16, 2013 | 8:53 p.m.

Great insight James!  Was a pleasure picking your brain and scoring one goal on you in FIFA soccer.  Was refreshing to see Steinberg opening so large in the WSOP Circuit national championship and hearing you reference it and his play at the WSOP. This is something I've been doing for quite some time and the young MTT pros look at me like I'm an alien. I agree that it really makes it tough for players to defend or 3b as you said.  I especially love doing it against a table full of weak limpers.  Many times they will never adapt and just keep limp folding or limp calling out of frustration and then they are playing a larger pot out of position.  

Aug. 16, 2013 | 8:49 p.m.

Why are we min raising heads up preflop so deep?  Shouldn't we be raising a little more when we are playing so deep heads up?

June 19, 2013 | 6:11 a.m.

At 4:14 any decent player would realize that your flat is super duper strong.  If they don't then they are horrible.  If you flat there and he shoves obviously you can't fold, but don't be surprised to see a premium hand.

June 19, 2013 | 3:31 a.m.

43:50 considering how draw heavy the board is and how deep you both are do you really think that his check raise is really that big especially if he's trying to get stacks in?

June 17, 2013 | 7:07 a.m.

At 41:52 do you ever just call there as you're not risking losing much, and it's hard for you to get value by shoving or 3betting?  I sometimes like to call there to balance my range and you're almost guaranteed to get a c bet out of him should an Ace or King flop right?

June 17, 2013 | 7:02 a.m.

At 33:35 if he's open limping there, we should take note to see if he's capable of open limp inducing.  The only time I like to open limp lp is if the players are super soft post flop and 3 bet super wide pre

June 17, 2013 | 6:48 a.m.

At 28:00 you raise fairly small.  I think there is merit to raising larger, almost forcing one of your opponents to commit or fold on the flop.  Reason being, there are not a lot of good turn cards for you to get you more action.  There are a ton that can kill your action, and also based on the way the hand was played preflop, when you raise the flop large you can rep a big draw and it forces an over pair to call.  What do you think?

June 17, 2013 | 6:26 a.m.

At 14:37 the opponent min raises.  I was confused to, but then I thought about it and to me it looked like he was trying to price his river call, hoping that you check back the river and he could check behind with what he thinks is showdown value, or he is hoping that you check the river after he raises the turn so that he doesn't have to make a big call on the river.  What do you think?

June 17, 2013 | 6:08 a.m.

Not sure min raising so deep preflop is standard.  I love when my opponents min raise early position with such deep effective stacks

June 15, 2013 | 6:57 a.m.

Yes, maybe I should have raised pre or on turn etc, but that didn't happen.  As played all results aside is there ever any merit in raising the river.  I'm never hero folding. 

June 15, 2013 | 6:53 a.m.

We are early into Day 2, not really sure why that matters there aren't any ICM implications in the hand.  I would of noted that if that were the case.  As played I'm wondering if I should of raised the river?  Not really worried about my preflop play, or flop and turn play.  Just focused on river action here. 


June 15, 2013 | 6:52 a.m.

I was never folding and deduced that I wasn't getting called by worse if I raised so I decided to just call instead of raise and he showed a full boat with Q2

June 5, 2013 | 3:23 a.m.

because if he's going to try to outplay me I wanted to keep the pot as small as possible. No need to build a bigger pot or be forced to call or 3 bet my AT oop.

April 25, 2013 | 1:56 a.m.

I took 4th in this event and it will air nationally on television June 6th

My image: Opening a lot, young, people ask to see my I.D. and hate to fold against me

Adam: The only player at the table who may have a looser image than me. Extremely tricky player.

1k/2k/200a level

I have 195k

I open limp AThh utg+2

I didn't want to play a big pot oop against Adam as he has been very active and he has button. Even if he raises no worries as I'm ahead of his button raising range and AThh flops well and I'm comfortable playing this hand post flop even oop as we are both fairly deep

Adam limps btn behind

Flop Jh2h2c

I check
Adam bets 2k
I call 2k

I don't like a check raise here as all I do is build the pot if he calls and I'm oop and we are still very deep. Not wanting to race for all my chips at this point, and I have some showdown value and if I raise I feel like I'm only getting called if I'm beat anyway and it makes it tough for me to get more value in the hand if I hit my flush.

Turn is 4h giving me the nut flush
I ck again hoping he will bet
Adam bets 5k
I call 5k.

I feel like a check raise polarizes my hand and it's hard for him to continue without a made hand and the chances of him bluffing are slim. I also want to give him a chance to bluff river if he has nothing.

River is Qc

I check again hoping he will bluff.

He overbets pot with 30k bet

I'm never folding, but do I raise or just call the river here wasn't sure if I made the right decision?

Let me know your thoughts and I will share what my action was on the river.

I look forward to seeing my monster hand at the final table where I get KK aipf against KQ for monster stack and lose...








April 24, 2013 | 3:33 a.m.

Great video. Have always realized how important 3betting is, but this video does a great job illustrating how vital it is to avoid putting yourself into tough decisions when 3 betting incase we get 4bet (ie. A9 last hand) and how sometimes it's alright to peal somewhat strong hands sometimes rather than 3 betting (TT earlier in the video).

Jan. 16, 2013 | 6:36 a.m.

At 39 minutes do you like a bigger turn bet with your set of nines to try and build a bigger pot especially since if he's calling he's got a fairly strong hand or big draw anyway?

Dec. 24, 2012 | 10:28 a.m.

Since we are talking about all the options we left out check raise flop to really define your hand on flop or does this put you in too many tough spots on flop. It would really define hand on flop, but I feel like it's tough for us to put him in a tough spot as we are relatively deep on flop even with a check raise. Any thoughts?

Dec. 24, 2012 | 10:03 a.m.

Just get moved to table with 43 players of 600ish remaining. We are ITM. I have around 310k to start the hand at 4k-8k-1k

I'm sure my image is young internet pre black Friday pro because I look 18, but I'm actually 29.

A utg+2 young aggro who finished 3rd opens to 16k at 4k-8k 1k ante and another thinking lag I have history with calls next to act. The kid who calls behind has seen me 3b really wide in the past and opening a ton prior to this hand. I have KJhh on c/o and think about 3 betting, but feel like this is a great hand to play in position post flop. I am extremely comfortable playing post-flop as the majority of my play is in live and online cash. The btn and blinds fold.

Flop comes QcJc9h. The original raiser checks next guy leads 22k. I call and original raiser folds. I considered raising flop, but was worried he might have a big combo draw himself and call. I wanted to see what the turn brought as well. Turn is 4h giving me 4 to the flush middle pair and inside straight draw. I know this 4h looks harmless to him and he now leads again for around 45k so now the pot is around 160k total and I have about 245k behind.

I don't feel like he has a set as my prior play with him I believed he would be 3 betting QQ JJ or 99 pre as he was really aggressive. I feel like he's capable of folding a one pair and maybe even two pair type hand. With the line I took, I feel like I can represent a set of nines myself, or even a flopped straight. Not to mention he could have a draw himself. Even if he does somehow have a monster, which based on my read from playing with the guy the past two days I think is highly unlikely. And again I still feel like I have a lot of outs and know he's good enough to fold AQ KQ Q9 J9 or a draw with one card to come. I opt to try and take the pot down on the turn by raising it up to 145k. Which I feel looks super strong as it is a raise that he knows commits myself leaving me 100k behind, but is laying him great odds. He tanks and then finally decides to jam all in. At that point I have around 100k behind and have no choice but to call with the pot how big it is. To my surprise he turns over a set of nines and I brick the river.

The payouts are so top heavy that I feel like I made the right play by trying to chip up and win a big pot there. If I win that pot I'm sitting in the top three in chips and in position to go even deeper with around 640k in chips which would of been double the avg stack. Ignore the results, my main question is would calling his turn bet be better than jamming? I felt like if I hit my straight or flush I wouldn't have gotten paid on river and take the semi-bluff rout, but am left wondering if I should of valued my remaining stack more than I did rather than shoving?

Dec. 19, 2012 | 6:07 a.m.

There are very few hands he is bluffing here and I certainly don't think it's a light value bet especially because he knows he will not get paid off by you as tight as you've been playing, and especially because it is a very small bet compared to the size of the pot. It's a horrible spot to bluff on his part but he just might be that bad. What happened?

Dec. 19, 2012 | 5:38 a.m.

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