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5 points

Yeah above I was talking about both 5-bet jamming or some people work in a 4-bet calling range based on their style. If you go with the 4-bet calling range style above I also mentioned I think a lot of stop-n-go is correct so that we can be realizing instead of our opponents... (sorry if that wasn't clear)

Feb. 15, 2020 | 11:46 p.m.

Could you elaborate on what you mean? I wouldn't think equity realization is much of concern when we are talking about 5-bet jamming... seems like we will always be realizing?

Feb. 14, 2020 | 6:24 p.m.

I would recommend seeing what hands BU in your example is showing down so you can get some idea of their range in this spot (also we can assume that they are likely never folding to 5-bet jams with that sizing).

For sake of example, let's say BU's 4-betting range is: QQ+,AK,Ah5h,Ah4h:

If we take your 15% sb vs bu 3-bet range::

And then we filter for hands in your 15% range that have pot odds to call (looks like you are getting 33.3% pot odds) vs the range we assigned (QQ+,AK,Ah5h,Ah4h) you can see what hands have at least 33% equity:

To answer your original question, it looks like AJo is an easy fold and 88 is at least a call vs the range we assigned. Whether or not you have a 4-bet calling range here is a stylistic choice and there is no correct answer IMO but I assume most people choose to 5-bet jam and keep it simple. For example, a good 4-bet calling range strategy probably includes lots of stop-n-go's.

According to this, JJ+,AK has about 50% equity vs Villain's 4-betting range. So for example, you could mainly jam JJ+ and work some AK into your 4-bet calling range. And then be sure to stop-n-go some AK bluffs on various flops. Essentially think up a strategy that makes your opponents decisions as hard as possible which means you will likely be stealing some equity :-) Also it's very likely BU is 4-betting wider than the range I made up, in which case something like TT+,AK would be good to jam and then maybe AQo,AJs,JTs become flats....

Feb. 12, 2020 | 3:30 a.m.

I think it's important to note Villain's low flop check raise frequency for BB vs BU.

(I've already gotten a few opinions on this hand but also wanted to see what you guys think as well)

Feb. 12, 2020 | 1:38 a.m.

I think Villain has Ahx bluffs a lot more here than the goods. Once he sees he is not going to win showdown vs Tx he decides to check jam repping AhAx or A high flushes since he's blocking the only boat you can have(A4). I think I might prefer a river check back tbh...

Feb. 12, 2020 | 1:21 a.m.

Comment | checky commented on NL2 KJs IP on wet board

This is a bet 100% of the time. When your opponent x/c flop he likely has a hand like TT or a weak Q. When you are betting turn this is one of the river cards you are hoping for...

Feb. 12, 2020 | 1:13 a.m.

I was pretty much going to comment exactly what DNegs98 is saying - you want to give your opponents a chance to bluff and you don't want to get raised off your medium strength hands. The "overcard scare" mentality kind of goes a way once you play many hands of holdem as you get more familiar with how often your opponents have air vs how often their overcards are hitting. It's less of an issue than you'd think. In other words, when they bet turn after you check back flop, they have bluffs more than they have hands that hit something on the turn (on average). Hope that helps.

Feb. 12, 2020 | 1:09 a.m.

When you say you're trying to rep overpairs it's true you have JJ+ but you also have a lot of AK,AQ,AJ,KQ combos. A T high flop (especially with a 9) tends to favor the BU 3-bet calling range, for that reason I think a x/c is also fine.

Feb. 12, 2020 | 1:06 a.m.

Check/fold turn (against moderate sizings), check/fold river? If Villain is a "passive fish reg" that would imply to me he is going to try to just check back and showdown all non straight holdings that have showdown value (AK,AA) hoping you were just taking a cbet stab and decided to give up.

Feb. 11, 2020 | 2:20 a.m.

Why didn't we just call the 3-bet and avoid the tough decision? For example, we can modify our 4-betting range to: AA,KK,AK and some random Ax.

Feb. 11, 2020 | 2:11 a.m.

Thoughts on checking back flop? Seems like it's a good spot to call Turn and you don't want to call a flop check raise.

Feb. 11, 2020 | 2:08 a.m.

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