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Great read. 11/10

Very inspiring stuff :')

i'd just try to get it on the flop tbh.

oh wait a minute...

i didnt see your river sizing. It's definitely a ship.

i think 77 raises flop since the board is draw heavy, and if not on the flop then probably the turn to define his hand more.

if it was an offsuit 8 then i think the turn would really define his range because he would most likely be raising with 2 pair on turn. But since its the 8 that completes the flush, i can see him just flatting with 87. 87 and pocket 8s are the only hands im worried about so that leaves the question if this is a call or a fold..

im not good enough to fold here and be comfortable living life so its def a call for me. still not a super happy spot tho.

i dont think a c/c is terrible given his bet sizing and the likelihood that any ace,king,or ten(obviously ten) would give us the best hand. However, i dont think folding on the turn is terrible either. This seems like a very gray area and maybe someone can elaborate more on what the equity would be in terms of range vs range..but in a nutshell i think any option is fine other than raising.

jam as a bluff to get overpairs to fold but i think thats a little too ambitious and probably a lot worse than just folding or calling.

pretty fucking gross...

jam river? or is that too spewy? lol.

im calling down here if hes 3betting 16.7% of his hands. There's a ton of unpaired-highcard type hands in a range. Plus i'd expect villain to bet around $3.10-$3.70 on turn with his jj+ hands because of the flush and straight draws out there. 

$2.9 into a $4.9 is pretty small imo. that bet looks soo fishy that i'd call turn and call off on most rivers.

possibly c/f some rivers but i'd expect villain to check back a lot of his hands on scary rivers..

bet 3 streets for value..fold to a raise.

i like your preflop and flop play but i think i would jam on that turn simply because the board is so draw heavy and on the turn i dont think our hand is necessarily a "monster" to be slow playing. 

as played i think the river is a tough call or fold. I think the over bet jam on river kinda confuses me. I dont think he would play kk or qq like that. I think he would go for a standard value size. He might have jj and overbet river. He can't have ak or aq suited for the flush which is probably in his 3bet range so this might give me reason to call but even then i dont think its a clear cut call.

I think i can find a fold a lot of times on this river given the line of action we took. I think this might be a losing call over the long run but i dont know poker math so i might be wrong.

play against him in position and play straight forward oop. 

i think he is capable of checking back a lot of jacks,9s,8s on turn. He might check behind some random kinglike k5s also. So I think its best to check fold the river. I think check calling river is just gross with the kind of hand we have. But i think check folding on flop is best but "we all have fishy thoughts sometime" -jeff hwang.

my god....the leveling around 24min...jesus christ thats deep.

I would usually just cbet flop and give up afterwards unless I hit a q,j,or ace on turn. 

as long as you didnt fold the turn, i really see no problem with it. 

i like your style

i think the jack is a good card to bet on whether or not if it gave you a flush draw imo. It'll be pretty tough to see villain continuing with his 8x hands here and probably 9s/10s as well.

this is pretty much spot on.

dat turn bet too strong. you missed value on the flop so why are you missing out on value on the turn? you tried to get tricky and get a check raise in on the flop and when that fails you can either A) check again and go for the same plan on turn or B) bet 3/4 to full pot on turn. Betting half that pot on turn is just gross. soo many deceptive draws plus a lot of obvious ones. bet bigger if you are betting at all.

tough to fold river now..we were thinking on level 9 when villain was just playing abc, now we have to level ourselves into a call and lose. I dont see any other possible outcome.

i forgot to add,

hero bets, villain calls, hero wins

just call. be glad that he actually bet the river after you checked to him. most of the time i expect action to go something like this (on river)

hero bets 10, villain folds

hero bets 10, villain raises 34, hero tanks and makes a tough decision based on his previous experience with this player

hero checks, villain checks, hero takes down the pot

hero check, villain bets, hero calls, villain mucks, hero wins

hero checks, villain bets, hero raises, villain mucks

hero checks, villain bets, hero raises, villain ships it, hero mucks

i like your river bet but i think a slightly smaller sizing might be more convincing. When we ship the river for nearly pot, we are basically saying we have a flush and only a flush. I think a smaller size would say we could have a lot more hands that we are trying to get light value from like 2pair type hands, overpairs like jj, and we also could credibly rep a flush as well with a smaller bet but with a bigger bet i think we are yelling at him "HEY I EITHER HAVE A FLUSH OR NOTHING". i like $264.

River play is horrible but I think you went wrong on the turn. Hopefully someone can agree with me and give a full explanation but im just too mentally drained. 

are ppl out side of nevada allowed to play on it?