I feel like a lot of people neglect position in OFC but after playing it quite a lot, I do think that position in OFC is even MORE important than it is in NLHE. Your strategy regarding the sort of hands you want to construct should heavily be based on the dead cards in order to calculate the drawing odds.
For that reason, in early position, your main goal should be a greedy strategy. Maximizing local EV rather than focusing on long term ev because you do not yet know the dead cards that the opponents in front of you have.
In late position, you have full knowledge of all the left-over cards. You can use knowledge of the remaining cards in the deck to calculate drawing odds for making the heavier hands. You can also take calculated risks like trying to shoot for bigger hands on the middle and top hand.
in a three handed game you should play more conservatively and focus on maximizing local EV when out of position.
In position: maximize your knowledge of the remaining cards to rethink the value of the cards that have been dealt to you.
Three cards of a single suite are not worth nearly as much if the players behind you each have two cards of the same suite. A high card like an ace is essentially worthless if each of the players behind you have an ace because it significantly reduces your chances to pair it. So if your opponents block your higher cards, then it's more advantageous to throw them on the middle and top hand to maximize it's value.
May 9, 2019 | 11:46 p.m.
Bro, honestly if you can't play on Poker-stars and ingition doesn't do the trick for you. It might be better to just be a full time live player. People roll into casino's drunk off their asses, especially in the ratchet parts of america. Your win-rate will soar.
May 5, 2019 | 3:03 a.m.
Okay this is interesting. There have been a lot of exposed scandals of WPN having a huge player-pool of botters and pretty poor security. But house-run bots? That's pretty crazy right? Like that has to be illegal in some ways right? Could they actually get away with that?
May 1, 2019 | 2:31 p.m.
Thanks a bunch. Couldn't find monkersolver on google. Huge help :)
April 28, 2019 | 11:12 p.m.
Seriously? WTF. The best I could find is crappy old poker-cruncher basic which is nothing more than a basic range vs equity calculator!!!!! What about all us low-testosterone mac soyboys. What are we gonna do with no GTO solver options???? There has to be SOMETHING out there that i'm just missing.
April 28, 2019 | 5:14 a.m.
Hey guys, up until the past 2 weeks, I was convinced that the best way to go about learning the game was to reflect deeply about each decision in poker by playing only one table at a time. After playing 3 tables-multi this week, I've put in more volume than I have in any other single week and playing multi has helped me in so many ways.
Takes away tilt: one really bad hand psychologically seems so insignificant when you're trying to run the same strategy on 3 other tables. Suddenly you don't care about losses, and bad beats simply no longer discourage you.
Tripling your sample size of hands allows you to learn from a mistake in one hand and apply what you've learned relatively quickly on the next table.In particular, making lapses in my strategy or doing something wrong out of position.
Makes it much easier to be honest with your self about whether you should fold. Since there is so much other stuff going on, you don't mind doing practically nothing on a table for an extended period of time.
Coming from a software/math background, I've always learned things well by going about them slowly, thinking about concepts deeply and methodically. I never realized that simply increasing volume and sample size could have such a drastically positive effect on my mentality.
April 12, 2019 | 4:21 a.m.
Somehow, after playing a lot i'm starting to realize that something is very wrong with the way I play deep stacked (200BB+). After a few hours of playing I very often double up, but after that point, I feel like my strategy that got me deep stacked in the first place is no longer relevant. Essentially, I feel like everyone starts folding every single hand to me and people will only play hands that are at the top of their range.
My angles to win are limited to stealing blinds. And whenever I play hands with a deep stack, my opponents always have better hands than me and seem to play a much tighter range.
So clearly, having a deep stack changes your table image, and changes the strategy people play against you which means whatever strategy that earned me my deep stack no longer works. Should I simply just tighten my preflop range even more? I have looked around on the internet and am simply unable to find a concrete guide to how game should change deep stacked.
Any advice would be mucho appreciated. Obviously variance plays a role in poker and swings are normal. But there must be something VERY specific that i'm doing to have almost every session look exactly like this. I don't feel like I change my overarching strategy when i'm deep stacked. I play the same hands and use the same preflop techniques.
So either I need to change my strategy preflop or post flop.
My Typical Session Graph:
April 9, 2019 | 8:40 p.m.
Hey guys, I was wondering if there is anyway to sit at a table as an observer on poker platforms and use poker tracker to simply collect everyone's hand histories at that table without actually playing. Essentially the idea is to monitor 5 or 6 poker tables so you can get stats on the regs simply leaving tracker running.
Have any of you guys ever done this? How is it regarded in terms of ethics.
April 8, 2019 | 3:26 p.m.
100% agree. What I mean is that in the first months I didn’t know anything about playing from position and had no clue how to execute believable bluffs, count pot odds, estimate range, or expected value. I was just losing all the time. I took Doug polk’s Post flop game plan course, and made a ton of flash cards for pot odds, counting outs and various other mental calculations until the sort of stuff was effortless. Without that background, I count any sort of playing as messing around because I didn’t have the tools to know whether a decision was rational or not. That being said, after reviewing many of my sessions I’ve noticed a few things: at the beginning of almost every session I double up (our or two hours in) I then slowly climb back down and either win slightly, break even or lose.
April 5, 2019 | 5:27 a.m.
And if we’re being real, I made some flat out stupid bankroll management mistakes completely lacking in discipline: winning three 5$ heads up games back to back so thinking I could just jump into a 25$.
April 5, 2019 | 5:03 a.m.
I definitely enjoy the game, I love making a disciplined fold. I just want to know what lies ahead so I can plan my investment in the game accordingly. If it’s normal to run at a loss for a year + before becoming a winning player then so be it. I’ve spent more money on textbooks this semester then I’ve put into poker so I’m not in any hurry to be a winning lad. I also was seriously messing about in the beginning so that contributes heavily to my horrible bankroll management and massive leaks. Thank you for your extremely detailed responses. I truly appreciate it.
April 5, 2019 | 5:02 a.m.
Started out on ignition and put in 200. Currently down to 40. Put 200 in America's card room. Blew that account too. I've been putting in lots of volume and studying and I really do like the game but it always seems like when i'm losing I lose a ton and my wins just aren't big enough to turn a net profit. Is it normal to go through this sort of struggle? How long did it take you guys before you became a winning player online? What sort of struggles are normal to expect and how many times is it okay to blow out before you probably should hang the towel. At what line do you have persistence vs a gambling problem.
April 5, 2019 | 12:56 a.m.
I deeply appreciate your feedback and am not taking it harshly one bit. I reflected on this last night and that's part of the reason I lost all my earnings. In the beginning I was just playing without any attachment to the result. I generally find that I have a weakness for feeling entitled when I'm doing very well and such a quality can be really destructive in the game. That was one of my main takeaways from this experience.
March 30, 2019 | 3:40 p.m.
HAHAHAH I feel like we need a gigantic CITRUS PARIBUS at the end of that statement. But that's some good number crunching thanks mate :). Also the major reason why I have a progression model in the first place is that the skill level seems to increase at different levels of stakes.
March 30, 2019 | 2:25 p.m.
I want to gradually move up in stakes starting from the bottom. Here is my general plan:
- Win 50 buyins at $2 NL
- Take a 10 Buy in shot at $5 NL
- Win 50 buyins at 5 NL
4 Take a 10 Buy in shot at 10 NL
- Win 50 buyins at 10 NL
Is this a sound strategy for moving up? I honestly just don't have the first clue as to how I should move up in stakes.
March 29, 2019 | 4:53 p.m.
- 48 hours wow.
- Nah, 45 down to 17 in one hand.
- Very true very true.
- Yep also very true, I was playing very aggressively and guys began to rathole which I shouldn’t have allowed.
- Also very true. Cringing that I said that.
- HAHAHAHAHA I’ll need to find richer friends to play with
- Great movie. And no, I refuse to commit a federal crime and risk jail in a micro stakes game LMAOOOOOOOOO.
March 29, 2019 | 12:04 p.m.
Hey guys, so I got into poker about a month ago. I'm a computer science and math major so I was initially attracted to it for the theoretical side. Long story short, I quickly became obsessed and for the past month have played thousands upon thousands of hands, late nights and lots of studying etc. My online performance has been break-even this first month.
Anyways: so I had 5 of my boys come over to my place and we played a 20$ buy-in. None of these guys know ranges, none of them know how to play from position, just a bunch of drunk frat-bro gamblers.
The game lasted 6 hours late into the night. Long story short, for 6 hours I cucked everyone at the table. it felt incredible... but 6 hours is a long time, and I was using my brain and all my focus to the max while these guys were just chilling the f* out. So decision fatigue set in. By the end of the 6 hours my brain was mush.
My stacks were getting deeper and deeper and deeper and I was able to force my opponents into tough spots and win tons of pots with good bluffs and a balanced strategy. Furthermore I simply felt incredible. And that's when shit got bad.
At one point I play a hand really poorly and that's the first time it occurs to me "I'm all of a sudden not playing very well." I was tired of crunching numbers in my head.
Anyways, so it's 3am, i'm delirious and I go all in on an obvious fold and it takes me down 3 dollars below buy in. At my height I had 45$ and all of a sudden I was 3 dollars short. It was so bitter. Furthermore, I handed 5 hours of really effortful poker to a drunk kid who I felt didn't deserve it.
I had never gotten "winners" tilt before while playing online but the social aspect of live poker makes it much harder to control your emotions.
Anyways here are two takeaways:
- Stop as soon as decision fatigue sets in and decreases your performance
- Be very careful of the cockiness that comes with the social aspect of high performance at a table. This can seriously mess up your game.
I feel awful and I feel like a loser, and I knew this sounds like a shameless noob post, but has this happened to anyone else on here? I want to know that I still have a hope of doing well at this game.