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AGREED 100%. Seeing mistakes has been the most fun /eye part of the process so far. Thanks for the advice I like that idea... And I guess to find decent ranges I can just load different filters into PT4? Not sure how guys are best finding RFI ranges, calling ranges and 3/4 bet ranges preflop...

Feb. 5, 2020 | 3:52 p.m.

So I know how to USE the software, but not sure how to best use it to study.. I have created my preflop ranges in equilab and then began just running boards and seeing what to bet check check raise and fold on different boards... Not sure if I am really making the most of my time

Ex I input my PF range UTG
55+, ATs+, A5s-A2s, KJs+, QJs, JTs, 98s, 87s, ATo+, KQo
make a runout and note what I am doing with different parts of my range
also note what the caller is doing ex. BTN calls UTG open with ?? Honestly don't know what a good-reasonable calling range looks like I have
JJ-55, AQs-A6s, KJs+, QJs, JTs, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AQo-AJo, KQo and then do the same for what to do with this range on different run outs.

Any help anyone can offer or youtube vids to watch I would greatly appreciate it !! Run good my fellow poker players!

Feb. 5, 2020 | 6:19 a.m.

so what does that leave his range at? I assume he would not call Q8 pre and would 4 bet KK-AA... I think 910 check the turn a huge %. I am curious as to what you put his range at... Obviously super strong to take this line, but I just don't see how it can be wrong to call ? Probably a spot that I lose a ton of $ on so I appreciate any responses. It does really suck he set it up nicely for stacks on the river

Nov. 17, 2018 | 6:12 p.m.

Post | freefalling80 posted in NLHE: HU 100 BB 3 bet % pre

Hey guys hoping you can help me establish a framework for solid pre flop play before i move on to post flop. I know the answer is it depends on opponent, but I want to learn some balanced concepts so I can recognize leaks of my opponents faster. What frequency is optimal vrs a 3x open for 3 betting.

Here is my current range

default 3 bet range 20.6% 266 combos TT+, A2s+, K5s+, Q8s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 53s+, AJo+, KJo+, QJo

3 bet to 5 bet get in pre is 94 combos TT+, AJs+, AJo+, KQs. KQo

I don't really have a 5 bet folding range and don't feel it is necessary at 100bb stacks and I realize there are tons of bluffs in that range, but I feel I don't get 4 bet a lot and when called I want to be able to play a variety of board textures.

Any help is greatly appreciated- Looking to make HU nl my main game.

April 25, 2016 | 4:16 a.m.

easiest solution is to tighten up a bit, and widen your value range. Id just play a stronger range than them and let them go crazy

Jan. 18, 2016 | 3:09 a.m.

Post | freefalling80 posted in Chatter: christmas gift idea

How about a free 24 hour trial of elite access? or at least access to a couple videos to check out? some of us are stuck grinding the micros and could use some more help.

Dec. 15, 2015 | 7:55 p.m.

Id def be betting flop as PFR. your line doesn't look to strong on the turn when you call $1 so on river if i'm villan i'm looking you up super wide since all the draws missed and I'd assume you would bet less with an ace

Dec. 4, 2015 | 7:13 p.m.

thanks for sharing hadn't seen this before hollywood is the man

Aug. 21, 2015 | 4:29 a.m.

Hey man putting this concept into action and it is really helping me call with the right parts of my range thanks! I found out I was really overcalling in some spots and over folding on other boards so it has been very eye opening.

My ? is how would you change your strategy if you saw villain check back river with an obvious value betting hand based on the action. I know this is an exploitative response and not the focus of the video, but was hoping for some insight. Last night I played an opponent who checked back river with AT on T 4 6 2 K rainbow board. And also checked back a lot of strongish hands on the river thanks

Jan. 10, 2015 | 7:03 p.m.

see it now thanks

Jan. 8, 2015 | 4:03 p.m.

my payment details are up to date and my subscription is current I can watch all other essential vids thanks for the help

Jan. 8, 2015 | 1:26 a.m.

Want to watch Vincents video again on range construction and I get this mesage-looks like you busted want to buy back in?? what the heck is that I want to watch video again thanks

Jan. 8, 2015 | 1:14 a.m.

WOW this is insanely good and thanks so much for directly making me a better poker player!
I am going to start doing this analysis immediately and my ? is can you describe the process briefly if the positions were flipped? Say I want to design my betting and bluffing hands on this board as the OOP 3 bettor, so I can really get a grasp on ranges from both positions. Thanks for the really really good vid.

Jan. 7, 2015 | 7:06 p.m.

we need this vid as essential!! Pretty please? info so many of us that don't know how to get started modeling this kind of stuff need and can't find it anywhere

Oct. 17, 2014 | 9:53 p.m.

Looks good to me you are not beating many combos of hands and i don't know what hands in his 3 betting barrel range this run out misses i say good fold

Dec. 26, 2013 | 4:17 a.m.

I think this is a great spot to check back the flop vrs an opponent who c/r this much I think J9 is ahead of him but i am not crazy about playing a big pot with my hand and works well as a check back because you can get to showdown alot and keep the pot size down with a good but not great hand 

Dec. 7, 2013 | 6:04 p.m.

AQ KJs, KK, JJ I think are plenty of hands to call river over bet with b/c its not like your going to have an insanely high 3 bet % vrs an UTG open.  I think the biggest mistake is not betting flop tho gives you no info about his range and your left playing a guessing game while giving villan the impression you don't have a strong hand since you checked the flop

Dec. 6, 2013 | 5:48 p.m.

Hand 1 yes def betting way better board for your range than his by far vrs both opponents this is a board you can put tons of pressure on small PP's with turn and river aggression, also and wont race bluff raises with air often at all Hand 2 vrs fish i'm def checking cuz he will call way too wide on that type of board and if you have the best hand i don't think fish will bluff turn enough so you can see showdown.  Vrs good reg i'm going to my hud cuz all regs are different and seeing what his calling % is and how often he goes to showdown-High went to showdown i don't think im betting- low im delay cbetting and betting river often unless board gets really ugly

Dec. 6, 2013 | 5:40 p.m.

i think that vrs the turn big bet and river overbet all in AA is crushed i think you have plenty of other hands in your 3 betting range that can call, you can fold AA vrs that bet sizing on turn and river.  I think betting flop and maybe turn yields you way more value and you get the added benefit of seeing what he does on flop instead of guessing on turn and river if he is bluffing pair +straight draw.  I think you have to bet this flop 100% for value- what was your reason for checking?

Dec. 6, 2013 | 5:13 a.m.

I hope you get some responses to this.  great ? i'm not sure how to figure out this exactly hope some theory junkies come and help both of us, just wanted to give you some things to think about

Dec. 6, 2013 | 5:02 a.m.

As BB you want to bet the hands that have greater than 50 % equity vrs his calling range only not his entire river range because he wont call with half of his entire river range and you also want to have a check call range and if you bet all your hands with more the 50% equity what will your checking range look like?  he will have a very easy time vrs your river checks because you will be check folding

Dec. 6, 2013 | 5 a.m.

wow very tough spot id look at your river range and see where Q8 falls and make a call or fold based on where your at in you distribution.  Seems like a spot where i'd have a really hard time defending enough hands vrs the river bet and a spot i'd be highly exploitable.  My gut says Q8 is not a profitable call vrs a pot sized bet.  very interesting post tho im gonna try and do some work with CREV and get back to you

Dec. 4, 2013 | 9:45 p.m.

when you call the check raise on turn and he bombs the river i think he is waaaay likely to bet for value- and you can easily have 2 pair and he doesn't seem to care.  most regs are check calling there non nut good hands on river and not bluffing enough with this bet size i'm folding and feeling good about it 

Dec. 4, 2013 | 9:04 p.m.

do you know his fold to 3 bet % I think im setting up a pot size all in on river pretty much the only bluffs in your 3 bet bet bet bet range would be flush draws and i don't see how villan can profitably call down with his bluffcatchers vrs a pot size all in on river.  would you ever be checking turn with QQ-AA? (i'd personally be betting them for value) if he does call you down i am going to make a note and increase my value 3 betting range preflop and exploit him post flop by value betting a strong range knowing he is sticky post flop 

Dec. 4, 2013 | 8:57 p.m.

just wanted to chime in and say that i'm really glad that rio gave me a present on it's birthday instead of the other way around :)

and cool idea thought provoking vid as usual

Dec. 4, 2013 | 8:01 p.m.

Post | freefalling80 posted in NLHE: turn range splitting

*** MOD: Moved to Low Stakes [2013-12-05 13:05 CET] ***

So a buddy of mine played a really cool hand i think but i can't get it to post unfortunately but is a really cool spot so please look past the terrible HH and lets get some good discussion going

heads up match villan stats from previous session call open 57 3 bet 17 c/r flop 35

Stakes .5-1 100bb

hero KsQd raise 3 bb villan call

flop Kd3c4c hero bets 3.50 villan c/r to 12 hero calls

Turn 6d villan bets 20 into 29.50


My initial thoughts are because villan is repping so little on flop  i am shoving over the turn bet.  seems like a spot where  if we aren't going with this hand we are getting owned by villans line because we just don't have enough hands to defend with.  what are your thoughts if you have no reads on villan?

Bonus ? that i really want to know and why i posted this hand is how do you go about splitting your range on turn so that you won't be exploited sorry if i sound like a noob- i pretty much am and trying to learn some theory stuff thanks for the time and really appreciate your feedback

Here is my shot at splitting my range sorry it has to be so long but hopefully you guys can tell me if my thought process is correct or not I put this into equilab

so if i continue vrs the flop check raise with sets-9 two pair-27 top pair-120 ( not sure if defending all top pair is correct??) open enders-32 gutters-80 and flush draws-55 i am continuing vrs the check raise with 323 combos of hands or about 26% of my range- is that enough? then on 6s turn i have 98  combos of sets, 2 pr, and straights to shove over his turn barrel -that seems pretty good to me and i can call the turn with my flushdraws, open enders and top pair and be ok on (almost) all rivers by calling my top pair on blanks (non 4 straight rivers) and calling or betting when checked to when i bink the river straight or flush.

Really appreciate the time guys

Dec. 4, 2013 | 6:27 a.m.

I agree 100% with tooth i am shoving over his small turn bet and feeling pretty good about it and making a incorrect fold on the river is very costly

Dec. 4, 2013 | 4:35 a.m.

I like the bet all in alot because he is going to call all Ax hands that he thinks are chops and i dont think he would really check river with a flush because it loses to much value NH

Dec. 4, 2013 | 4:25 a.m.

what a strange line by villan i dont think i could ever fold this hand but i dont know what worse hands he could do this with this deep on river.  All of his Ahxh are in his Preflop range.  Is he smart enough to realize what your repping?  If you think he doesnt get out of line post flop  I guess you could make a super sick fold and save yourself alot of $

Dec. 2, 2013 | 7:31 p.m.

I think i'm taking the showdown here he can have too many hands that beat you and i think his calling range is only hands that beat you.

Dec. 2, 2013 | 6:58 p.m.

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