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koivisto

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KQo - hand , deciding based on assumption he probably has to turn some 8x / 9x to bluff and that was what you call "explanation" is not a very strong argument. He can easily over bluff the spot with his AQ/AT combos. Some will play turn passive with them so catching KQ starts to really suck (since turn) however rare to have such a read. Sure you should have some slowplays since turn and what I meant is KQ after you play flop as xR, x/ C turn is relatively close to top of your range and your thought process does not really convince me with the whole line . You range constructed a xR hand that never has many streets of value and is nearly always in trouble to bluff catch. That being said I like the fold probably on the river.

April 3, 2021 | 9:17 a.m.

Also.. kiljusieppo should be tagged avg. reg at best , he is million miles behind modern poker. I know cause we are very close.

April 2, 2021 | 5:42 p.m.

Not getting the river fold with KQo xR 7:09 , aren't you at the top of your range and every single AQ/AT should be in his continue since flop. You think exploitatively it is just not getting bluffed? Then you talk about the topic of having proper ranges to fight for pots but strangely you constructed a depolar xR range and just basically fold the top of it on the river after recognizing he has every AQ/AT continuing flop so you have to be like confident AQ/AT does not bluff river.

J85 - 3bp vs. fish 1/2p bet and then shove with JJ is just something I'm bit doubtful is good you just completely push him off the random part of his range you want him to continue so certainly I would start with smaller c-bet and never jam when get raised. What does the shove accomplish? Just makes him fold his polarized bluff part.

Felt like the redline concept is quite shallow in terms of touching this video / releasing not a lot of information, although got a bit of something to think about so thanks :)

April 2, 2021 | 5:38 p.m.

Very old stats and 2-3bb winrate is not like top 5% reg at lower midstakes : more like tells about being suboptimal player as mentioned .

March 23, 2021 | 5:13 p.m.

pure gold!

March 22, 2021 | 5:38 p.m.

Xeliqq spews very rarely and is quite at the top in the game, very different caliber player than Gabi.

March 22, 2021 | 5:36 p.m.

Hey, thanks for video

I don't play MTT very actively so perhaps stupid question : what do we exactly mean by soft bubble? In the money but having a coming payjump? What kind of payjumps are we talking about as reference to first KJo utg fold?

Thank you.

March 1, 2021 | 2:03 p.m.

Very very very good content ..

March 1, 2021 | 1:14 p.m.

10:30
KQo valuebetting consideration vs. fish - If you put his assumed range to equity calculator and have a look at equities it should give quite a clear result that valuebetting anything worse than a flush is being too thin. Your assumption your check back is bad is only based in the fact that you run into a hand that may have called a river bet.

I think your trying to review too many tables at the same time and there is not much process in this sort of review if your not analyzing things with a solver or equity calculator but just stating out some assumptions without looking to prove if they are wrong or right.

Perhaps your doing some more deep analysis in other videos. :)

July 26, 2019 | 9:08 a.m.

Comment | koivisto commented on nl200 turn EV

Especcially here he donks 1/2p on flop which means generally not top hands close to ever. Betsizes of 70% and below are most often midstrenght / bluffs and potsize is then polar ranges and overbets certainly value heavy.

May 13, 2018 | 1:23 p.m.

Comment | koivisto commented on nl200 turn EV

With AA I certainly wouldnt vomit facing some 3-barrel, its great. Fun players who take this sorts of donk lines do it with all kinds of stuff there is rarely so much logic behind it.

May 13, 2018 | 1:19 p.m.

Playing a recreational player it doesnt matter alot how many combos of valuehands you can have there. Question is how much does he fold & what do you perceive him to have there?

May 10, 2018 | 4:43 a.m.

Comment | koivisto commented on nl200 turn EV

This is a snap call.

May 10, 2018 | 4:18 a.m.

After runitonce started with Xpastorcitox and Sinkarma & Sauce still making alot of solid content I have to say Im very satisfied of the NLHE content RIO is providing right now. However this wasnt clearly the case couple months back, but Im glad RIO did something about it.

Sauce is giving alot for the community with these videos especcially with his effort to answear all reasonable comments & critics as precisely as he can which is time consuming.

I am greatfull and hope you keep up the good work!

April 11, 2018 | 10:17 a.m.

I see that your new in terms of receiving criticism, that happens because most decent players dont bother watching your videos nor to comment them. Most of the comments come from 100nl or below players who just love watching someone to play 500z. This explains aswell the lack of quality strategy talk here on comment sections of these videos.

Criticism was: you generally dont even bother stopping video to put hand in replayer and think it more deeply while making videos and you either analyze hands after youve played them. As you mentioned the output of your thoughts is very limited while making liveplay how does that become so interesting for the viewer ? Whats the magic?

The KJ was mainly an example of how lazy your output was overall even however you seemed to arrive making a decent play which you now proudly disclose.

Nov. 25, 2017 | 3:50 a.m.

Hello Erazer!

I would like to comment abit about your ingame thoughtprocess and how to maybe develope it further so that it adds some value on context your bringing to RIO and aswell how to improve your own winrate:

11:28 your saying that you dont raise the turn vs. fish because your not 100% sure how he plays his hand. thats imo. pretty clear blunder in terms of thought process. We are not all that often 100% sure of something before we can decide what to do /(or take more agressive line). Saying your not 100% sure allows you to just ignore thinking of the problem in dept and only make a call with alot of hands because it feels easy but aswell may loose value.

When you get the thought "your not 100% sure " you should start to picture yourself how does an average fish at the stakes and from his origin likely play his hands in such spot and make a game plan that likely beats the EV of doing whatever feels easy because your not 100% sure. I agree its difficult to put fish on a range in quite a few spots but it definitely looses alot of value to not even try and take the line that feels like more balanced which is entirely irrelevant against the fish.

Talking about the hand itself:

I think if you raise the flop and stick it in your generally in not so good shape/ (he might find fold with hand like QJ or JT or worse which we dont want & protection being that deep somewhat irrelevant . Considering the turn: first of all he bets 1/2p which is what means on a draw heavy texture the portion of the 9x extremely low. They either want to XR it at that point or bet big. Not generally bet 1/2p . Considering what happens if you raise there now lets say 130-150 dollars. He will be suspicious enough now to not generally let go weaker Kx, and he will not 95% surely jam with a draw there because fish dont understand things like equity or fold equity very well. They just call with draw. Of course there is exceptions some fish are crazy but considering us raising turn and seeing a shove I would say we are beat 95% of the time by very most recreational players.

However I understand only making a call on turn and I would maybe raise AJ on turn in case I didnt raise it on flop and just call KJ which is closer in terms of value (losing to AJ which is quite a bit of combos). But what I want to say you just ignore thinking of how he would play vs the raise by saying your not sure, and this sort lazyness is alot of times quite expensive, even we now likely arrive at making a good play with the KJ this time.

^^
If you would be putting the neccessary effort to make good content you might pick spots like this and put estimated ranges to equilab and evaluate your play. Or do the same with PIO solver against hands played against regulars and talk about GTO plays.

This is more for RIO, please dont take it as personal criticism, if you get paid for something the same amount, no matter how well you do it, most of us will end up doing it on the lazy side; However you dont evaluate much in your videos, you only play live,send it to RIO and it gets sold for people as elite content. In my opinion your content and Innerpsys content are both definitely not content worth paying 100 dollars / month for and the only decent NLHE content here has been for pretty long time Sauce. I am pleasently suprised they have hired Elias Gutierrez to produce content and hope they will get more people who are willing to put some effort on content they produce / or what would be even better motivate you in a way or another to improve your content.

Cheers!

Nov. 23, 2017 | 4:09 a.m.

Hey, cool video.

You open 2,1x from the SB, I think there is various ways to play sb but is there some specific reason for that?

Nov. 19, 2017 | 9:21 a.m.

Master Sauce! :D Thanks for the video always so entrertaining!

Feb. 22, 2017 | 6:46 a.m.

Nov. 22, 2016 | 4:40 a.m.

pads line w AT :D :D :D

Nov. 22, 2016 | 4:40 a.m.

Comment | koivisto commented on 30 Second Exercise

Thanks, interesting video. Can you maybe make one with a player who plays 400nl+

Nov. 20, 2016 | 7 a.m.

Very clear thoughtprocesses and great content! Thank you!

May 16, 2016 | 11:08 a.m.

Yes sure. I didn't mean to be rude, I respect your work as a couch, thanks for the video.

May 11, 2016 | 9:49 a.m.

You don't talk much about your range vs. your opponents range or even concern your betsizing options much. Not much to learn tbh.

May 10, 2016 | 5:24 p.m.

We don't have to be afraid of a check raise on this texture, it favours the 3-bettor and villain should not have a raising range since his range is towards middlepairs and a-highs which he should defend passively all the way.

I think it's a standard cbet and very standard turn barrel to get him of middlepairs since we turned the FD. Checking back turn is not imo smart because we cannot realy represent much with a delayed bluff on the river and by betting the turn he has to fold a lot middlepairs.

April 8, 2016 | 10:05 a.m.

Fish can never ever find a fold with QQ or JJ here

March 29, 2016 | 3:35 p.m.

A little bit of suprising result but the monotexture just decreases our equity tremendously.

March 28, 2016 | 11:24 a.m.

What level are you thinking when you play against fish?

Looked at equitys with equilab and vs. their calling ranges we don't realy have a valuebet on the flop which means we probably should handle this as bluffcatcher & draw to FH and take the freecard. It makes the hand much more easier to play on turn & river! The flop bet doesn't realy accomplish anything good! Getting sometimes raised by a worse hand and getting called by ranges that are ahead of our hand.

March 28, 2016 | 11:19 a.m.

Thanks for your comment!

I think generally we have only 2 streets of value in most runouts. Our hand is not "vulnerable" it's like a madehand + draw hand but vs. too villains it's not a very strong made hand + we are deep + on a spade, ace, or jack our hand becomes very weak so I think checking flop is actually not that bad -> on bad runout we save money and on good runout we can valuebet twice or if river is terrible let go cheaper. Anyhow it's true most fish are giving a lot of value on such runout with pair + draw types of hands but it's imo close whether we should play this like the nuts vs. two random fish or not to.

March 28, 2016 | 9:25 a.m.

Comment | koivisto commented on AA 150bb deep river

Raising flop can be good.

March 27, 2016 | 11:25 a.m.

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