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on a big sample its pretty common to have few 30-50BI downswing(s) in a short period. That of course depends on your winrate and stakes, the better the winrate, the downswings are smaller... but even the best players on every limit have such downswings

But of course you will also have some huge upswings where you will run extremely good..

GL with PLO!

Aug. 9, 2019 | 10:32 p.m.

PLO has some bad sides of course, but in the end a lot more positive ones, so if you like PLO more then NLH go for it, even if you dont succeed nothing bad is gonna happen

Aug. 9, 2019 | 9:07 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

plo500 is quite a goal :)
but i agree; you have to aim high to succeed

If you are ready to put in a lot of work, send me a message when you feel ready and we will discuss a deal. The most important thing is wanting to learn a lot and play a lot, doesnt even matter what stakes you play or your skill atm


July 23, 2019 | 10:48 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

Thank you!

I would not agree that if you can beat PLO2 zoom you can beat PLO25 zoom. If you are a massive winner on PLO2 then yes but your wr will be way lower on PLO25.

I will talk about Pokerstars, but i assume its not much different on other big sites. I would say the biggest jump in skill is on PLO25. It gets more aggresive, you dont get to see cheap/free showdowns as much, people are more aware of ranges and positions and they put you in tough situations much more then on lower stakes. On PLO25 there are people that grind for a living because they live in parts of the world where you can afford a nice life even on plo25(lots of eastern Europe guys). Actually there is few people that could beat much higher but for different reasons they stay on this stake.

PLO50 is tougher but not by a lot, you pay significantly less rake so it evens out.
PLO100 is on a lot of sites the highest regular running game during the day so you see some really good players who are forced to play plo100 where there is no action on higher limits.

But every stake is beatable if you put enough effort in learning and correcting mistakes :)

Regarding coaching: i think most of people can move to plo10 by themselves and most of them struggle when they reach plo25. Most of my students reached out to me cause when they got stuck on plo25 and needed help to become a better player then the rest of the field.

July 23, 2019 | 4:43 p.m.

i would flat those 2 hands also. If he is pot/calling AAxx/KK/QQ here then he is most likely shoving turn himself and hands that have some EQ vs you are not going to pot/FOLD

ocasionally he will hit a K on the turn and he will have KK but you just let him get away with 5-20% EQ or you dont give him a chance to bluff shove dead on Turn

July 22, 2019 | 2:11 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

sent you a PM

July 22, 2019 | 7:47 a.m.

seem to me like a perfect spot to just flat:
-cards that make a straight either give you a str of a boat
-there is no FD
-opp is loose/agressive, let him room to bluff us off an OP or OE
-basically there is no bad T card and we aint folding any T

July 20, 2019 | 4:26 p.m.

ok, you are correct

July 19, 2019 | 2:23 p.m.

and it's obviously only marginally +EV if it's +EV at all.

not only its definitely not marginally +EV but a big mistake, but even if you are good on the flop you will have to fold most of the Turn cards

July 19, 2019 | 7:21 a.m.

x/C a 3/4 stab into 4 other people with a TP and overcards is definitely something you shouldnt do. especially 170bb deep

July 18, 2019 | 6:42 p.m.

i would gii on the Turn. You are crushing a lot of combo draws, KQJT, JT+ fd... and sets of course. You lose value from made hand that will x on bad rivers.
Even in the worst case scenario if you run into JJ you have a FD and double gutshot which is great.
Only reason to call Turn is if you have a read your opponent is really loose and you give him rope to hang himself, but then you call ANY river

June 28, 2019 | 4:28 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

Thank you!

May 21, 2019 | 11:58 a.m.

bet turn pot

i would fold River, you will get shown a boat too often even though you block it a lot.
He should have a NFD/QT8x or similar hand that bluff shoves river in a 200bb deep pot at plo5
doesnt seem likely to me

May 2, 2019 | 11:55 a.m.

you played the hand fine

April 27, 2019 | 7:13 p.m.

Post | koky posted in PLO: PLO coaching

Hello everyone!

I wanted to open a coaching thread for a while now, and just saw cassman97 opened one 2h ago so i got motivation to start one :)



Last one is just April 2019 so you can see that im still crushing and you dont have to be worried about my game being outdated.

All the hands were played from 2017 until today and 99% of them were played on Pokerstars. I usually play 6-7 tables
Started playing plo in 2016, started on plo2 and moved to plo25. In 2017 i was in a coaching for profit deal and it was a great experience. Although i didnt move up much i learned how to think during hands, think one street ahead and my game became much better with my coach.

I dont use solver and i used PJ and PPT a little bit when i started coaching but decided that i learn much more trough playing, reviewing and asking my coach a bunch or questions about spots i wasnt sure about.

I also played a lot of Live PLO so if everyone looks for a live coach here i am :)

1h - 65$
10h - 500$


For people that cant afford coaching i am offering a long term coaching for profit deal. Conditions depend on which skill level you are, what stakes you play and how many hands can you play in a month. Even if you are breakeven on plo5 i might take you if you are willing to put hours in learning and playing :) So every struggling microstakes player is welcomed!

If you are interested in Coaching or CFP send me a message and if you have any questions feel free to ask here in the thread.

April 26, 2019 | 11:14 p.m.

btw some stats would really help people give you better advice in these kind of spots

April 25, 2019 | 11:05 p.m.

you will get bluffed sometimes, but as you sad you have 3 spades and he should somehow have a hand like QQ77 that xback, calls and then bluffs river.. more likely he has 87,74, even AA/66. I would just let it go

April 25, 2019 | 11:04 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Drills

sent you a PM

you can search for coaches on several sites, just watch out for people that show ridiculously small samples or their results are from 5+ years ago, since the game changed a lot since that time

i would recommend looking for a person with results on a well know site like Pokerstars, Party... and not some random site

April 14, 2019 | 2:34 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Going to Las Vegas

Sure some of the live regs play good but i believe most of them wouldnt beat plo200 online, probably even plo100 on PS/party. so good plo100-plo200 online reg would be among the best at 2-5 live. Especially in Vegas since sthere is always tourists to throw money :)

just my opinion of course

April 14, 2019 | 12:02 a.m.

i disagree with 3beting AQJ2ds SBvs BTN is very marginal. 3b is def +EV

April 13, 2019 | 11:59 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Going to Las Vegas

I dont think someone has to beat 2/5, 5/10 online to crush any 2/5 live game.
Probably a good plo50-100 reg would be top3 there i guess.

Only andvantage those regs would have over the online guy would be knowing local fishes and their tendencies, but you pick up on them quite fast

April 13, 2019 | 4:26 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO25] AQT8s 3bet pot

you misunderstood me; i wanted to say that its a pretty bad way to 3b and x/C w overcards and a GS on a flush draw board :D

Not that it is a bad 3b, its fine

April 12, 2019 | 6:25 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Drills

Some form of coaching would be the fastest way to improve(private coaching, Jnandez material, Upswing or similar sites)

If you cant afford it or just dont want to play only 2-4 tables when learning, focus on every spot and learn from your mistakes.

Get a feel for people tendencies and try to exploit them over time. Learn ranges and how certain ranges play on different boards. TAKE NOTES!

And Good Luck :)

April 12, 2019 | 4:54 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO25] AQT8s 3bet pot

its a pretty bad idea to 3b preflop, and x/C on a flush draw board w overs and a GS and fold when you hit it. Especially when you fold Nut flush blocker. Dont get the point of x/Calling flop tbh

Def dont x/Shove River because you are not repping anything and you will get called by any flush.

April 12, 2019 | 4:49 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO10] QQ99s bluff turn

i prefer a flat from BB, 3b from SB is better

April 9, 2019 | 11:15 p.m.

fold vs 3b single suited KKJ2 BTNvsBB while 150bb deep in position? damn

April 9, 2019 | 11:12 p.m.

I would just flat and give him an opportunity to use AA as blockers. Raising doesnt accomplish much really

April 9, 2019 | 1:03 p.m.

Bet Turn, you lose so much value vs 2p, JJTx, FDs, combodraws
Yeah it sucks when you in fact do get raised sometimes OTT but its not the reason to not bet Turn and get value from all those hands. Its BvB so ranges are wide

April 9, 2019 | 1:01 p.m.

you wont ever get it in on the Turn with vs a weaker hand so no, not a good decision

April 9, 2019 | 12:54 p.m.

i like x/shove a lot because of several reasons:

1.his sizing: in general, this sizing: cb pot flop, 1/2 turn is rarely a strong hand. I see people betting like this w JTxx, AAxx, KKxx or random hands so x/shove is far better because in my opinion you have a LOT of fold EQ and its always great to pick up a decent size pot without seeing river w a mid pair.
2. balance/cause you will x/shove sets on the T so you have to have hands like this to balance it out
3. even if he has a set you still have solid EQ
4. if you x/call you are not going to get paid when you hit and shove

Jan. 17, 2019 | 5:12 p.m.

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