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Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

Thank you!

May 21, 2019 | 11:58 a.m.

bet turn pot

i would fold River, you will get shown a boat too often even though you block it a lot.
He should have a NFD/QT8x or similar hand that bluff shoves river in a 200bb deep pot at plo5
doesnt seem likely to me

May 2, 2019 | 11:55 a.m.

you played the hand fine

April 27, 2019 | 7:13 p.m.

Post | koky posted in PLO: PLO coaching

Hello everyone!

I wanted to open a coaching thread for a while now, and just saw cassman97 opened one 2h ago so i got motivation to start one :)



Last one is just April 2019 so you can see that im still crushing and you dont have to be worried about my game being outdated.

All the hands were played from 2017 until today and 99% of them were played on Pokerstars. I usually play 6-7 tables
Started playing plo in 2016, started on plo2 and moved to plo25. In 2017 i was in a coaching for profit deal and it was a great experience. Although i didnt move up much i learned how to think during hands, think one street ahead and my game became much better with my coach.

I dont use solver and i used PJ and PPT a little bit when i started coaching but decided that i learn much more trough playing, reviewing and asking my coach a bunch or questions about spots i wasnt sure about.

I also played a lot of Live PLO so if everyone looks for a live coach here i am :)

1h - 65$
10h - 500$


For people that cant afford coaching i am offering a long term coaching for profit deal. Conditions depend on which skill level you are, what stakes you play and how many hands can you play in a month. Even if you are breakeven on plo5 i might take you if you are willing to put hours in learning and playing :) So every struggling microstakes player is welcomed!

If you are interested in Coaching or CFP send me a message and if you have any questions feel free to ask here in the thread.

April 26, 2019 | 11:14 p.m.

btw some stats would really help people give you better advice in these kind of spots

April 25, 2019 | 11:05 p.m.

you will get bluffed sometimes, but as you sad you have 3 spades and he should somehow have a hand like QQ77 that xback, calls and then bluffs river.. more likely he has 87,74, even AA/66. I would just let it go

April 25, 2019 | 11:04 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Drills

sent you a PM

you can search for coaches on several sites, just watch out for people that show ridiculously small samples or their results are from 5+ years ago, since the game changed a lot since that time

i would recommend looking for a person with results on a well know site like Pokerstars, Party... and not some random site

April 14, 2019 | 2:34 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Going to Las Vegas

Sure some of the live regs play good but i believe most of them wouldnt beat plo200 online, probably even plo100 on PS/party. so good plo100-plo200 online reg would be among the best at 2-5 live. Especially in Vegas since sthere is always tourists to throw money :)

just my opinion of course

April 14, 2019 | 12:02 a.m.

i disagree with 3beting AQJ2ds SBvs BTN is very marginal. 3b is def +EV

April 13, 2019 | 11:59 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Going to Las Vegas

I dont think someone has to beat 2/5, 5/10 online to crush any 2/5 live game.
Probably a good plo50-100 reg would be top3 there i guess.

Only andvantage those regs would have over the online guy would be knowing local fishes and their tendencies, but you pick up on them quite fast

April 13, 2019 | 4:26 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO25] AQT8s 3bet pot

you misunderstood me; i wanted to say that its a pretty bad way to 3b and x/C w overcards and a GS on a flush draw board :D

Not that it is a bad 3b, its fine

April 12, 2019 | 6:25 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Drills

Some form of coaching would be the fastest way to improve(private coaching, Jnandez material, Upswing or similar sites)

If you cant afford it or just dont want to play only 2-4 tables when learning, focus on every spot and learn from your mistakes.

Get a feel for people tendencies and try to exploit them over time. Learn ranges and how certain ranges play on different boards. TAKE NOTES!

And Good Luck :)

April 12, 2019 | 4:54 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO25] AQT8s 3bet pot

its a pretty bad idea to 3b preflop, and x/C on a flush draw board w overs and a GS and fold when you hit it. Especially when you fold Nut flush blocker. Dont get the point of x/Calling flop tbh

Def dont x/Shove River because you are not repping anything and you will get called by any flush.

April 12, 2019 | 4:49 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on [PLO10] QQ99s bluff turn

i prefer a flat from BB, 3b from SB is better

April 9, 2019 | 11:15 p.m.

fold vs 3b single suited KKJ2 BTNvsBB while 150bb deep in position? damn

April 9, 2019 | 11:12 p.m.

I would just flat and give him an opportunity to use AA as blockers. Raising doesnt accomplish much really

April 9, 2019 | 1:03 p.m.

Bet Turn, you lose so much value vs 2p, JJTx, FDs, combodraws
Yeah it sucks when you in fact do get raised sometimes OTT but its not the reason to not bet Turn and get value from all those hands. Its BvB so ranges are wide

April 9, 2019 | 1:01 p.m.

you wont ever get it in on the Turn with vs a weaker hand so no, not a good decision

April 9, 2019 | 12:54 p.m.

i like x/shove a lot because of several reasons:

1.his sizing: in general, this sizing: cb pot flop, 1/2 turn is rarely a strong hand. I see people betting like this w JTxx, AAxx, KKxx or random hands so x/shove is far better because in my opinion you have a LOT of fold EQ and its always great to pick up a decent size pot without seeing river w a mid pair.
2. balance/cause you will x/shove sets on the T so you have to have hands like this to balance it out
3. even if he has a set you still have solid EQ
4. if you x/call you are not going to get paid when you hit and shove

Jan. 17, 2019 | 5:12 p.m.

But can you make an argument for check/raising here?

This is the best line i think here, if any of these 2 guys like to stab. I generally x/R a lot in this spot with a large part of my range, since people delay stab a lot, their range is weak and cant call a x/R
OTR i think you have to x/F. Only hand that doesnt hit is 86 and you block it, and i doubt he is calling T without a FD with one more player behind

Jan. 14, 2019 | 5:39 p.m.

you played it perfect

Jan. 14, 2019 | 5:31 p.m.

i like x/call if we plan to call down light T and R when it bricks out

Jan. 13, 2019 | 11:02 a.m.

x/R flop is better then bet to balance your checking range and people will stab a lot when someone checks in 3b pots on that board

even though your hand is generally bad for bluffing since you block a lot of his range that will fold R, i think he has too many KQTx,AKQT... that can fold on the River . I believe most regs will shove 2p/sets on the Turn and i dont see many K8 except KQT8 that gets to the river

Jan. 12, 2019 | 3:39 p.m.

good luck!

maybe post a screenshot of stats

Aug. 16, 2018 | 8:16 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on Stat Check Up

its 3bb EV

botboy141: i think it will not help you much to get aswers like your flop cb is too high or your river bet is too low, its too general
All stats depend on situation, player pool tendencies, player you are against in a pot...
there is no ideal flop cb% or 3b%....

different player with basically same stats as you can be -10bb loser, but a third guy can be 15bb winner
for example your flop cb % might be good but if you are cb wrong type of hands on wrong type of boards it will be a mistake

Feb. 6, 2018 | 3:22 p.m.

-play as much as you can for the start, you will learn the most by playing. Use 20% of time on reviewing hands/spots and learning
-start playing 2-4 tables to be able to follow all the action. Even if you are used playing a lot more MTT tables keep the table number low
-If you can afford start on plo10 because you will learn much faster then on plo2
-use 10-20bi bankroll if you can reload, no need for more
-pokerjuice is ok, but dont spend too much time in it for a few spots, concentrate on spots that come up often
-if your goal is to move up as fast as you can, if you can afford it get a coaching once you learn basic things
-most of the 2+year old material is not as good anymore
-watch some newer videos from RIO

good luck

Jan. 21, 2018 | 5:30 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

I made a post to find out how much is a fair price.
But i dont agree with you on most things about coaching as seen from the posts.
And you give advices on price that you dont apply to your coaching :D
So i think i can disagree with you about the price aswell
We agree to disagree


Dec. 24, 2017 | 1:27 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

please if you want to aswer to questions in this post, do it in short precise way. no need for long walls of text or opposite examples like before
thank you

1. and 3. went wrong, 2. and 4. are possible. Not likely, but there is a small chance. :)

same as there is a small chance i have better knowledge about PLO then Galfond/Jeans/Jnandez... its possible, right?
silly argument

I answered you in my first reply. $30-$50 is probably the spread. Everyone values and weights their time differently. And buying a coaching is buying your time. Most common way to price it is to compare it to how much you make if you spend that time doing something else (that you have to give away if you host a coaching session). If you make $50/h from playing poker, then it makes sense to take $50/h from coaching.

so you suggest the price of coaching should be about the same or little more as a coach can make playing. so i believe you do the same for your prices of coaching

I found how much you ask for 1h, do you really make that much per hour playing the stakes you play(from the graph you posted)?
or is your coaching overpriced by your own opinion?

Dec. 21, 2017 | 9:41 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

if its not too personal, how much you charge for 1h
what stakes you play with what wr? could you post a ss or graph?
how many of your student successfully beat your stake after coaching?


Dec. 21, 2017 | 8:17 p.m.

Comment | koky commented on PLO coaching

i feel the same about it

just wanted to know what would be the fair price to ask for a coaching based on a WR, because its the only thing i could offer as proof since i dont have students for feedback

in 20 posts i didnt get an aswer for that but got this:
1. there is a good chace i might be worse coach then a BE coach
2. My A game can be worse then a BE coaches A game
3. i for sure play A game all the time, that must be a reason of a good WR
4. my knowledge could be worse then BE coach
So basically, we kinda dont want competition :D

Dec. 21, 2017 | 8:15 p.m.

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