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Lifted Mindset

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March 29, 2016 | 4:27 a.m.

I'm curious, what PLO stake do you believe players can be clear winners in the games running today?

March 29, 2016 | 3:10 a.m.

Check-jamming the turn doesn't really accomplish very much. We're really just flipping his value range and with the situation, I doubt he giving this much action with low flush cards.

I think I like the check-call on the turn. We can make better decisions on river cards.

March 29, 2016 | 3:06 a.m.

The player took the lead and c-bet into 3 other players and his c-bet is decently big. Then keeps betting big on all streets.

If he has a set, I think it would only be top set (66xx) and he doesn't have many of those. We hold the flush cards that he would be bluffing with. I don't think he will take the betting lead with like a J-high flush but rather play more passively especially multi-way. Also if he had straight draws he would play them more passively and be afraid of the BB holding the nuts.

Even if we are at the top of our range, with the action he's given vs 3 players, I think he is holding the nuts 100% of the time. This is also a dangerous board to play blockers and I doubt he would even try in this situation.

March 29, 2016 | 3:02 a.m.

TTJJ can flop middle or top set and less likely to flop bottom set, but also have the opportunity to flop straights or open-enders adding more equity to this hand. This is a hand that I wouldn't mind peeling. Our flush draw is okay as well if suited to the Jack.

But again, this is a high variance spot and if you decide to fold I wouldn't blame you. I think most players would call. How much gamble do you have in you? Haha. I personally would call and see a flop with this hand.

March 29, 2016 | 2:40 a.m.

When things are not clear and they're not easy, the easiest thing to do is make excuses. What we need to do is put in MORE effort, MORE theory and MORE practice and at the same time LESS negativity.

You CAN beat it, that's all you need to know... But the real question you need to be asking is...

..Will you put in the work and effort to beat it?

March 27, 2016 | 2:16 a.m.

First I would want to think about how active/aggressive the 3Bettor is. 4Bets at this stake are 95% of the time AAxx. I doubt the 3Bettor will 5B here since it's unlikely they both have AAxx but possible.

When we call, we will very often miss the flop or flop a flush draw. Both of which we don't really want to commit with but will have to. This hand can't flop straights either. If we do flop a set, it will almost always be bottom set leaving us with little odds to improve.

With those thoughts in mind. I think this is a hand that plays well in single raised pots but not well multi-way and it doesn't do well deep. We do not want to commit half of our stack with a mediocre hand and therefore I think we should throw it away.

March 26, 2016 | 7:03 p.m.

We are too deep to raise here (176bb) and when he calls which he will, we will have a very hard time playing a big pot with this hand. When he does call or raise, we are in OKAY to bad shape. If we had closer to ~60bb I think we can raise. 70-100bb we can mix it up but I think call works well because he will check a good amount of turns and we are able to see a free card or possible showdown.

March 25, 2016 | 8:27 p.m.


I think after MP c-bets this board which really doesn't hit his range hard at all (we're holding the nut flush draw, the card which he should be holding in this spot) and then the BB raises on this board which hits his range the hardest. I feel we have a pretty annoying but clear fold.

March 25, 2016 | 8:15 p.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: Turn Decision? All-in or fold?
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (5 Players) CO: $73.87
BN: $41.18
SB: $56.59
BB: $54.70
UTG: $60.81 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is UTG with A Q K Q
Hero raises to $1.75, CO folds, BN raises to $6.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.25
Flop ($12.75) 7 J 9
Hero checks, BN bets $8.96, Hero calls $8.96
Turn ($30.67) 7 J 9 7
Hero checks, BN bets $26.22 and is all in, Hero

Jan. 18, 2016 | 7:53 a.m.

I wouldn't donk any of my draws and this is exploitable once I fold.

Jan. 15, 2016 | 4:14 p.m.

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (5 Players) CO: $60.38
BN: $112.80
SB: $50.00
BB: $53.81 (Hero)
UTG: $38.03
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is BB with 3 Q 9 A
UTG calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, BN calls $2.25, SB calls $2.00, Hero calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75
Flop ($11.25) 2 9 A
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $5.50, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $5.50, UTG folds
Turn ($22.25) 2 9 A T
Hero checks, CO bets $14.50, Hero raises to $46.06 and is all in, CO calls $31.56
I don't like this play much. The reasons are on the flop, he shouldn't be c-betting much since there are no draws. Against his range I'm either way behind or way ahead. On the turn, it brings a lot of draws but if I shove here, I'm still only getting it in way behind or a little ahead. The thing that was confusing me was how low the SPR would be on river but I think I could save myself money by just calling here and calling blank rivers.

*ALSO I just saw him bluff with JJxx in a 3B pot on a Ace high board and barrelled off.


Jan. 14, 2016 | 3:01 p.m.

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (2 Players) BB: $60.83
SB: $183.16 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 J A 8
BB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $3.00
Flop ($9.00) 2 T 6
Hero bets $5.67, BB calls $5.67
Turn ($20.34) 2 T 6 3
Hero bets $13.50, BB raises to $50.66 and is all in, Hero calls $37.16
The 3 isn't good for my range but isn't amazing for his calling range on flop either. With my actual hand with no showdown value, should I just be pot/calling off or am I still able to check/call here?

Jan. 14, 2016 | 2:55 p.m.

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $71.95
SB: $50.00
BB: $39.35
UTG: $56.01
MP: $105.59 (Hero)
CO: $67.71
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is MP with 7 J T T
UTG checks, Hero raises to $2.25, CO folds, BN raises to $8.00, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $5.75
Flop ($17.25) 9 2 Q
Hero checks, BN checks
Turn ($17.25) 9 2 Q 4
Hero bets $11.50, BN calls $11.50
Wondering what the best decision on this turn is.

Here I decide to lead and wish I was leading for closer to pot. But would you rather a check/call and shove some river cards or check/raise since we have a lot of equity and know his range is weak?

I think for balance, this works well as a check/call and to shove on a 6-8-9-T-J-K and to check/call on a spade.

Or is there a more optimal way to play this hand. I think check/calling and shoving those rivers has higher EV than any other play.

What do you think?

Jan. 14, 2016 | 2:50 p.m.

I think you're right. But once we bet, we're not folding. We can bet small but will be lost on most turns. I think we either bet big or don't bet at all. Check/call is too difficult to play so I prefer a jam or shove.

Jan. 6, 2016 | 9:58 p.m.

I think a good "reasoning" behind bet sizings is to figure outhow many bluffs you have in that spot.

The more bluffs you have, the more you should bet. The less bluffs you have, the less you can bet. If the flop comes 3-3-8 dry compared to 4-4-5 with a flush draw, you don't need to bet as much on 3-3-8 because you already have a lot of fold equity. But it also depends on how you play your ranges. Some people will bet 33% and some people 66%. It depends if you like to barrel off with air or value bet very thin for value. Find out what you believe is the best strategy on boards and than create your own bet sizings to balance your strategy.

Dec. 18, 2015 | 7:15 p.m.

Yeah I think my thoughts were closer to what your explaining. I need some bluffs here and I thought this was the best one. It can have immediate fold equity on those cards and also have outs on rivers.

I'm starting to like a turn check/raise because like I said above. My hand now needs to be turned into a bluff and this is one of the best because of the immediate fold equity and I have outs when called.

Why do you hate this 3B? Would you not 3B AAxx double suited either OOP?

Dec. 11, 2015 | 6:07 a.m.

Thank you very much for your comment. I think when you said "Turning a value hand into a bluff OOP is a leak" I agree that my KKxx is a value hand and I would be betting it as a bluff on the turn. But if not this hand as a bluff, what hands would I be bluffing with on this turn?

But if he bets. I think a check/raise isn't bad here either. Once he bets, it's rare I have the best hand so now we need to turn it into a bluff and what better hand to bluff with than this one.

Dec. 10, 2015 | 4:43 p.m.

If he hits two pair on the turn on a 10 or a Q, that's still fine. I have blockers to the nuts and will now use them. When I c-bet the turn and the 10 or Q hits, I'll be at the bottom of my range by the river when I take this line and will be bluffing a third barrel on the blank rivers as a bluff.

If my had was AAxx instead of KKxx, I would check/fold when a 10 or a Q comes.

Dec. 10, 2015 | 6:22 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $25.00
SB: $24.45
BB: $27.02 (Hero)
UTG: $19.92
MP: $114.01
CO: $41.57
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with K K 2 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.65, MP calls $1.80
Flop ($5.40) 9 J 4
If we c-bet here, are we getting it in with these stacks? Or would you rather just c-bet/fold. There are a lot of turn cards we can continue betting: diamond, Q, K, 10. So I prefer the c-bet from check/call.

We also get value from his flush draws by c-betting which I prefer.

Or would you rather check/call and figure it out from there?

Dec. 8, 2015 | 6:23 p.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: 3B Pot, flop line check..
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $23.36
SB: $30.39
BB: $23.70 (Hero)
UTG: $44.41
MP: $28.49
CO: $30.10
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with A 6 5 A
UTG raises to $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.40, UTG calls $2.55, SB folds
I actually like a call here better with these Aces.
Flop ($7.65) 6 7 T
Hero checks, UTG bets $7.32, Hero
This flop shouldn't hit his UTG range very hard.

We can call and get it in on board pairing turns, non spade and no JKQ cards.

Or we can check/raise for protection but we're basically flipping for the most part.

Or should we just fold our equity on this board.

What would you do?

Dec. 7, 2015 | 6:16 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $42.21
SB: $71.79
BB: $80.19 (Hero)
UTG: $9.87
MP: $156.34
CO: $78.06
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with 5 7 9 7
3 folds, BN raises to $0.85, SB folds, Hero calls $0.60
Flop ($1.80) 4 7 J
Hero checks, BN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $5.47, BN calls $4.22
Turn ($12.74) 4 7 J A
Hero bets $9.87, BN calls $9.87
River ($32.48) 4 7 J A A
Curious to know what the best play here is.

What would you do? Shove for value or check/call his bluffs. I doubt he value bets Axxx with just the trips. I also think he has a lot of Axxx combo's when he calls the turn bet. On the river I don't think I'm getting called by a lot and therefore I feel like there's more value in check/calling his bluffs.

What do you guys think RIO?

Dec. 6, 2015 | 7:34 p.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $57.06
SB: $27.49
BB: $68.40
UTG: $25.44
MP: $76.39
CO: $31.96 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with K 9 J Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 3 folds, MP calls $2.05
Flop ($6.15) 2 K 6
MP checks, Hero bets $3.82, MP calls $3.82
Turn ($13.79) 2 K 6 T
MP checks, Hero
I don't like bet/fold.

Do you check/behind here or bet/call-off?

Dec. 6, 2015 | 4:34 p.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: Flop Line 156bb deep
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $25.00
SB: $44.40 (Hero)
BB: $39.76
UTG: $79.45
MP: $20.30
CO: $25.00
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is SB with K J 8 K
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BB raises to $3.25, MP folds, Hero calls $2.25
Flop ($6.75) 6 Q 8
Hero checks, BB bets $5.29, Hero
My hand has equity against anything but will be difficult to play on turns.

Should I still just check/call here or is check/raise an option? I am 156bb deep and I think a check/raise works good with like 60-70bb but this deep I'm not sure...


Dec. 6, 2015 | 4:31 p.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: Turn Line after Check-Raised Flop
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $86.17
SB: $63.85
BB: $26.61 (Hero)
UTG: $17.92
MP: $45.97
CO: $18.40
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BB with A J T 9
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, BN calls $0.50, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25
Flop ($1.60) K Q 6
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.00, BN calls $1.00, Hero raises to $4.75, UTG folds, BN calls $3.75
Turn ($12.10) K Q 6 4
Another C-bet Call off or a check-call? Just curious about your thoughts and why you came to your decisions.

Dec. 4, 2015 | 6:33 a.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: Turn Line? - 3B Pot -
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $90.73
SB: $25.00
BB: $11.94
UTG: $27.44
MP: $25.00
CO: $24.18 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with 7 8 A 6
UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, BB calls $2.35, UTG calls $1.85
Flop ($7.90) 5 T 4
BB checks, UTG bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25, BB folds
Turn ($16.40) 5 T 4 K
UTG bets $15.70, Hero
Curious about this spot.

He pots it so I'm assuming he has a set but with that being said, with my wrap, this is a pretty easy call I think.

Thoughts anyone?

Dec. 4, 2015 | 6:27 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (4 Players) BN: $23.94 (Hero)
SB: $23.32
BB: $23.85
CO: $25.69
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BN with 9 2 J 8
CO folds, Hero raises to $0.62, SB folds, BB raises to $1.96, Hero calls $1.34
Flop ($4.02) 4 T 5
BB bets $1.92, Hero calls $1.92
I have a lot of back doors but also I think for this price he's giving me I can easily try to float here.
Turn ($7.86) 4 T 5 8
BB checks, Hero bets $4.25, BB calls $4.25
Villain Folds 67% when checks in 3B pots over 600 hands.

I think stabbing here is the best move now.
River ($16.36) 4 T 5 8 K
BB checks, Hero checks
When he calls, he can't have too weak of a hand so the way he played it, it has to be a medium low flush. Would you like to see a shove/jam here or check and give up. It feels like a jam works good here because he is capped plus I can still represent the nuts or a 2nd nut flush and there is already too much invested into the pot to not try to win here.

What do you think?
Final Pot BB wins and shows a flush, Jack high.
BB wins $15.66
Rake is $0.70

Dec. 1, 2015 | 8:12 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (4 Players) SB: $20.58
BB: $24.30
CO: $25.60 (Hero)
BN: $25.00
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with Q T 9 8
Hero raises to $0.75, BN raises to $2.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.85
Flop ($5.55) 2 K A
Hero checks, BN bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25
Turn ($12.05) 2 K A 7
Hero checks, BN bets $7.50, Hero
Call or fold?
I think this is a call but at the same time, we can't ever bluff him to fold and he has a lot of AAxx and KKxx in his 3B range... is it still a call? I think with a 10 high flush, I think we can make an easier fold but Q high must be a call...

Dec. 1, 2015 | 8:07 a.m.

Hand History | Lifted Mindset posted in PLO: 3B pot, check call or raise OOP?
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (5 Players) BB: $12.50
UTG: $51.79
CO: $29.97 (Hero)
BN: $80.10
SB: $29.22
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is CO with K T 7 J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BN raises to $2.60, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.85
Flop ($5.55) Q K 8
Hero checks, BN bets $3.50, Hero
Curious to know if you like to call or raise here?

We won't get much value when we hit our straight and have no backdoor flushes.

What do you think?

Dec. 1, 2015 | 8:04 a.m.

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BB: $25.00
UTG: $73.98
MP: $22.36 (Hero)
CO: $25.74
BN: $26.10
SB: $20.06
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is MP with Q 8 J 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BN raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.05
Flop ($6.15) 3 T 4
Wondering if you guys like a c-bet here or a check/call.

I don't think I need many check/call hands on this board but I think this is one of the better ones possibly.

I have a semi-weak flushdraw with low blockers to other flushes and a lot of backdoor straight draws.

Would you like to see a c-bet here or put this in a check/call type hand range?

Dec. 1, 2015 | 8:02 a.m.

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