Is there a quick way to grab say all of Monker's bet flop range for the IP player and put it into PLO calc syntax?
I really like PLO calc as a range explorer tool, because Monker is pretty bare bones, so I'd like to be able to grab the ranges for both players on certain streets and then analyze them myself inside of PLO calc (i.e grab the opening range and calling range or the bet flop and call flop range) then analyze them inside of PLO calc.
if anyone has any insights on how to do that, I would really appreciate it, thanks!
(P.S. I chose midstakes at random because it forces me to choose one...)
Feb. 17, 2019 | 4:48 a.m.
Still haven't watched this video but I apparently get notifications about it because I posted a comment. Yeah; I'd personally be calling 77 to a big squeeze. Especially on Ignition if this is the spot. Because the flatter behind is more likely to be a rec and we'll play a 3 way pot. I'm not excited, but when I do hit my set, I'm feeling pretty good about the implied odds.
Feb. 14, 2019 | 4:31 p.m.
Only watched some about the first hand, but it seems to me like you made the conclusion slowdown on the turn vs low WWSF player too quickly here. Yes, it is true that his range is stronger than high WWSF player on the call node, but we also should probably not assume that he is defending optimally on the turn. Seems like we should probably consider his fold to cbet OTT. How often should villain be folding to cbet on the turn given the tighter flop play? I would guess less than these villains are on average (your aggregate data said something like 41%).
Obviously I haven't looked into it, but just my thoughts as I watch. Might run my own sim later though, I do like the process.
Feb. 10, 2019 | 12:43 a.m.
Also, any insight as to what physically makes you notice someone as the aggro fish that doesn't want to give up/fold? You mentioned "the way they handle their chips," etc. but I'm curious if you can be more specific about the types of things you notice that help you make this distinction. (I'm trying to get more into live playing so making reads like this is something I still struggle with.)
P.S. Thanks again for the live content. As someone starting to play live a lot more recently, I'm glad to see more live poker content on RIO.
Feb. 1, 2019 | 5:46 a.m.
Seems to me like reg should just auto cbet small on JJ5 (to my intuition and PIO's confirmation with ranges I'm putting in). So the xx node is pretty worthless with PIO analysis unless we want to node lock him to some strategy, but it would really depend on the player type. Some people never check air here but will check some hands with some showdown value. I.e. he might check some A high but never check like T9s or KQs or something. I sort of expect that to be honest. I also expect he doesn't have a jack too often here either.
Mostly, I think after xx on the flop, his hand is exploitatively really A high heavy so I wouldn't mind a bet on the turn and probably would have found one in game. If you think he's capable of checking back some overpairs here (which really doesn't seem like the best strategy) then maybe being more cautious is okay. But I still think betting the turn is a reasonable play.
For completeness I said he checks beck something like A with showdown and AA and resimmed. You want to lead pretty frequently in that case. You're leading all your jacks at a super high frequency and pocket pairs are all pretty darn mixed.
After turn xx, xx given the flop locked strategy I gave him, PIO is basically just betting always from you. You don't even need to hit the 8, your pocket pairs are just crushing his mostly A high range at that point.
Obviously I made some pretty strong assumptions about what his check back range is here. But I think even if he checks back some Jx on the flop, he's never going to check on the turn. So the river is a pretty standard value bet with pretty much any pocket pair (no need to hit the set) vs his ace highs. That's true even if he checks back some stronger hands on the flop because I suspect he rarely slowplays a J for two streets (except MAYBE top quads).
Feb. 1, 2019 | 5:39 a.m.
Very swingy day today while not playing that much. I was loading up a game of dota with my girlfriend and playing some hands on the zone table. She was laughing about having watched me lose like 1k while we were queuing for a match. She saw me flop nut straight with AK in four bet pot and get owned by a boat on the turn. :)
Ended the day on a hand that was so lol I just had to stop playing. Rec open jams for $270 preflop from HJ. CO jams over him for $680. BN folds. I jam over them both for $750 with Aces (BB covers). BB folds. They show KJ (rec) and QQ (CO). Flop comes KQJ. Turn A. River brick. What a ride. Gonna watch that sweet new Krab video now.
Jan. 11, 2019 | 5:13 a.m.
I'm trying to get in the habit of writing down questions when I feel like I'm not sure while I'm playing online (doesn't really work as well in person because I don't want to have my journal and pen out while I'm playing). I think it's a good process for studying and you notice more how often you are unsure when you force yourself to write down that you're unsure.
Here's one fun spot that I studied a bit after being unsure of playing today.
Ignition 2.5/5 ZONE 4 handed
CO folds, BN [$500] raises to $12.50, SB [$500] (hero JJ) 3bets to $52.50, BB folds, BN calls.
Flop: Tc 9h 5h
Here comes my first question. I definitely want to bet this hand. It's super vulnerable and also way ahead of villains right now. What sizing do I want to use here though? I definitely don't think this is a bet everything flop, so I elect to go with 2/3 as my cbet sizing, but I wonder if PIO prefers overbet. (I wrote down: Sizing? Is overbet a thing?)
A: here's a picture of PIO's strategy from my position. It turns out that PIO does like to 2/3 sizing more often than overbet, so if you want to play a simple strategy here, it might be best to 2/3 everything. That said, it does really seem to like overbet with my specific hand.
Now I had a second question on the same hand, after cbetting 2/3 and getting to the turn.
Turn:: Tc 9h 5h 8c
Okay, once again, I think I'm a little lost. On the spot, I elect to overbet Jam. It feels like we have the nutted advantage, and after calling he's going to have a lot more 9x/Tx and I can apply a lot of pressure there. Villain calls and shows me AThh, which is a hand class I'm definitely targeting (although I'd of course prefer him to show up with the ATss or ATdd, out of personal preference).
So, I wrote down: Is jam a thing? Turns out it is, and is actually PIOs preferred strategy on this turn with most overpairs that get here.
Obviously villain is supposed to call his actual hand here, so well played by him. Probably he didn't have to write anything down. Or maybe he did, because he used his full time bank to call with AThh, and it is a pretty gross spot to be in. That said, AThh is a pretty ideal calling hand here. You beat all my bluffs with the T and you have a lot of nut equity to suck out against my value hands with both the A (against things like JJ/QQ/KK) and the hearts.
Anyway, well played villain if you're reading this.
Jan. 9, 2019 | 4:21 a.m.
I think fold is right here. You have a pretty bad bluff catcher actually, in that you only block his random hands that might turn into a bluff if he's good (89, 8T, 79, 7T, TQ). In your shoes, I'd definitely want to call any Jx that I have because blocking the J seems very powerful here and probably set blockers like 78 are good too. Unfortunately, you don't have that many Jx that aren't boats here though. Kinda a shitty spot where it's probably appropriate to overfold. I haven't run my assumptions in PIO obviously, but I do think fold is good.
Jan. 3, 2019 | 8:02 p.m.
I think it also depends a little on what the actual structure is there RUnItTw1ce -- is it a drop that's just a flat rate per hand with no % rake? I.e. every hand to the flop takes out $6 (usually structures like this also take 1 with no flop) or is it some absurd structure like Tyler mentioned earlier with 10% uncapped?
If its $6 flat (a lot of casinos in so cal are like this for example), then that really hurts you in small pots (and hurts worse the lower the stake you're playing) but isn't that bad in bigger pots. I definitely advocate opening bigger (both for this reason and to discourage flops going multiway with flats). Playing a min raise is terrible at this structure.
Jan. 3, 2019 | 6:18 p.m.
I'd love to see you talk live games. That said, 10% up to 60 cap? Jesus your local cardroom is robbing you.
Jan. 3, 2019 | 3:50 a.m.
Played upswing's 25NL quiz on my phone this morning because it popped up on my reddit feed. (https://upswingpoker.com/25nl-pokerstars-quiz/)
Apparently I'm a bit of a calling station preflop because I snap called the KTs on the first hand. Also a bit worrying about my ability to beat 25NL after missing the first question. Swept the rest though, at least, so I finished with a score that means upswing thinks I can beat 25NL, which I guess is good?
Kind of a fun quiz, worth doing if you're bored. The JJ hand is the most interesting in the set by a lot I think.
Jan. 1, 2019 | 8:01 p.m.
One more hand from the high stakes thread today. It's just the next one scrolling down, so not necessarily a particularly interesting choice, but that's okay.
We get a 3bet from BB vs UTG.
This is definitely a spot where both players are going to have pretty narrow ranges. I used something like this (which is based on what a preflop solved spit out at me with all the really low frequency plays just zeroed out and some things rounded off based on how I think people play, but also I think the mixed frequencies are good because some people are going to play low pairs and some people aren't, etc.).
The flop is below:
This flop seems kind of boring and it sort of is, but I think it's easy to overestimate this flop a little bit from BB. The flop is definitely amazing for BB, with a huge advantage in Ax (I think BB has top pair+ like 40% of the time here with the ranges I gave). In fact, with the ranges I gave, it looks like OOP range has 60% equity, which is very good.
However, it is important to consider is that IP does have a higher frequency of a lot of the very strong hands here like 99, TT, 9T, A9, and AT (however OOP does have AA at the very top end obviously).
Now I checked it out and it looks like a full range cbet on the flop gives up about $5 at equilibrium in this spot. There don't seem to be any hands that really love checking though. Almost every hand is indifferent EV wise and is mixing.
Either way, we do see a cbet and I obviously can't tell if this is a full range strategy or not (and we'll never find out from this showdown since every hand is mixed).
A flop call is also interesting from Bit2Easy, because his strategy should involve a lot of raises. As I mentioned earlier, he has a lot the very strong hands here so he should have a decent raising frequency. I'd expect hands like 99,TT, T9 really want to raise here, and our betting is focused around those with other stuff thrown in to round things out. We'll want to bet flush draws, etc. The reason these hands like to bet so much is that they unblock the Ax portion of OOP's range that is definitely going to call, but is doing pretty dang badly against us.
The turn is the 7d which is actually relatively uninteresting. I think the last interesting point is this hand is just to note that diamonds really aren't that impressive for either player. The only cards that really shift the equity distribution in any way are K and T
Jan. 1, 2019 | 7:30 p.m.
This is a pure fluff post so feel free to disregard it anyone who is reading this for interesting content.
I just finished up my last session of the year for 2018. Looking back, it's been a pretty good ride. I started this year playing 25NL on Ignition (I played 5NL and 10NL on Ignition for a couple of months before 2018), and it was my first full year playing poker for quite a long time. I finished up playing 500NL on Ignition so that's a pretty good jump.
My goal for next year is to be winning 5/10NL on Ignition for at least 8BB/100.
I don't even have that at 500NL right now though, so there's a long way to go. At 500NL I currently am running at 11.97BB/100 over the Zone game and 3.7BB/100 at the ring games, so there's a long way to go on that journey. Interestingly, that's the opposite of what you would expect from a player-pool perspective. I'm pretty confident it's a focus thing. When I'm playing the zoom game, my concentration levels are usually very high, where as on the ring tables, I tend to let myself be lackadaisical.
So a big part of my improvement will have to be from being more focused and not playing auto-pilot. The other way I plan to improve is to continue with writing this blog. Looking through interesting hands and making observations like this will hopefully force me to continue to study (that's one of two primary points of writing this blog, along with helping others by providing some content I consider similar to what you'll get in RIO videos).
My girlfriend might have a new years resolution to stop playing video games (she hasn't decided yet). I frequently play with her, so if she does that, it'll probably mean I end up with more study and/or play time which may be good for my game. But I might not, as we most likely will end up just doing something else during that time. :)
Since people love graphs, here's a random graph for online play this month, all at 500NL with a nice turnaround at the end. Played very few hands as you can see, as I spent the majority of this month either not playing because I was spending time with family, playing live poker, or screwing around with PLO.
Dec. 31, 2018 | 4:21 p.m.
If your current winrate is 18bb/100, you should feel good that you're running very well. That's quite a high winrate, so you're probably running better than you think (even if it's not in all-in EV you can run good by getting good cards, etc).
Dec. 29, 2018 | 9:15 p.m.
Here is an interesting hand between OtB and linmouse.
We get OtB opening the button and linmouse calling the big blind. I suspect these guys are both playing pretty standard ranges here. I'm going to use these in PIO. You can probably argue that these are a little tight, but these are probably decent approximations with no antes in play.
Now we get a pretty interesting flop:
IP definitely has the nut advantage here, because he has all the strongest Kings and Queens, as well as all the two pair and sets, where as OOP basically only has Q6, K6, and 66.
However, OOP does have a pretty high frequency of weak Kx and Qx,, as well as a high frequency of total garbage, as we can see on the range explorer:
I can see a couple strategies to take advantage of this being good. In particular, large bets over multiple streets put marginal Kx and Qx in a terrible spot, so a strategy that involves several big bets strong kings or better as well as bluffs hat block OOPs strongest bluff catchers, so hands that block a 6 are good, and hands that block things like J,T,9 are good because they block the strongest Kings and Queens, finally hands with a heart are obviously good bluffs as well, because they have high equity and also block easy continues from lin.
The only problem with this strategy is that IP doesn't quite have "strong king or better" often enough to make us want to use a pure multistreet big-bet strategy, given that IP does also just have an overall equity edge he wants to take advantage of.
So we have to decide to either big bet some marginal hands OTF (which is probably okay), play a mixed strategy with some big bets and some small bets (probably optimal but hard to make sure the small bet strategy isn't very capped), or play a pure small bet strategy to take advantage of the equity edge (probably okay, but not great because it's not that hard to find adequate continues).
OtB does elect to go for the small overbet here, which seems good. Given this is OtB I expect he's probably going for the two sizing strategy, so this won't have many marginal hands. He'll have strong king+ and bluffs for the most part.
The turn is a relatively blank card, the 7c. It does give linmouse some extra draws with all his low heart combos, mostly having combo draws now instead of just flush draws, but I would mostly expect this to go check big-bet pretty frequently again because OtB definitely still has the nut advantage.
In fact this does happen, and we get a check-shove from linmouse.
This seems like a reasonable play, shoving your two-pair+ for value and your new combo draws as bluffs because they actually have pretty good equity for a turn draw. Shoving two-pair+ for value is definitely fine here because I think OtB is continuing to bet approximately the same value range as he did on the flop, so he'll have to call relatively light with things like KT+ giving value.
Here's the showdown. Play seems relatively standard from both in the end.
PIO seemed relatively standard on most nodes, except for one I did not expect.
On a blank like the 7c, PIO likes to block lead tiny about 50% of the time from OOP. This is something I never would have thought of, but in hindsight it does make some sense because OOP has a pretty big equity edge on a pure blank (in particular at the bottom end of the range) even though IP has the nut advantage.
Definitely not a play I would have thought of in the moment, because it definitely feels like IP is controlling the hand, but I like the play a lot from PIO on a pure blank here. It would be a lot worse on a card that interacted more with the K and Q like 9, T, J, or A of course. Although on a Q it is pretty reasonable too for different reasons, because OOP suddenly gains a lot of hands that went from marginal to nutted.
For what it's worth, I don't think this is a play linmouse would have found either, given that his specific combo is leading the turn a huge percentage of the time.
Going to look into incorporating this small lead more often when I have a big equity edge if I can. Definitely the coolest take away from this hand in my opinion.
Dec. 29, 2018 | 8:28 p.m.
I'm going to start by going through a few of the hands on the December High Stakes thread on 2p2. I was really disappointed that there were a lot of hands posted there, but with little to no analysis. So I'm going to try and do some of that analysis. All of my analysis is done as I first look at each action on pokeit. I don't know what's going to happen in the future (purposefully) because I want to avoid being biased by the future actions or the cards the players are holding. I will do some peaking into PIO at the end of a hand. Sometimes a lot, sometimes a little.
This is the first non-heads up hand that I saw, in post #14 in the thread. I don’t know the players particularly well. I’ve seen some of them around a little bit in videos from Sauce and KRab.
In this particular hand, I know Katya is a reg. I don’t know Chamlay.
Here we’ve got Chamlay opening UTG to 3x (150), then Katya 3betting to 3x (450) from the cutoff.
The raise to 150 from Chamlay is a little unusual, as is the smaller stack, both of these indicate he might be slightly weaker, since most regs (at least at the games I play) tend to open smaller and play full stacked. However, I can’t say for sure based on this tiny amount of information. We’ll keep it in mind. I’m assuming they’re both playing relatively tight ranges here. Something like this:
Here is our flop:
I don’t really think either play has a huge advantage in suited cards here, and this flop doesn’t interact particularly well with either player’s range otherwise, as they really favor high cards preflop. I guess Chamlay has more 6x, but overall, the density of overpairs should give Katya an equity edge on this texture.
I think Katya can bet most of his overpairs here for value/protection whether or not they have a heart. He can definitely consider betting a really large portion of his range if he wants to bet overpairs for value here. In particular, I don’t expect Chamlay to play much of a raising range here given that it’s such a way ahead or way behind texture and he has a small stack, so he can get the money in without too much trouble anyway.
After I say that, of course, we do get a small bet and a click-back raise from Chamlay.
Chamlay’s small raise seems to indicate a range that is wants some protection like 6s, 7s, 8s, 9s (or 6x) and as “bluffs” he probably mostly going to do this with a heart (or in particular Ah) in his hand. I don’t really expect this to be a particularly high frequency play with any portion of his range though.
Katya calls, which I expect him to do with a range that consists mostly of overpairs, flushes, and hands like AK with a heart or AQ with a heart. He’ll fold his hopeless hands here like KQdd, etc. It’s possible Chamlay is making this play more frequently than I note above as an exploit if he thinks Katya is over cbetting this texture and has too many trash hands that have to auto-fold even against a tiny size. This is certainly possible, since I’d assume it’s a high frequency but not all-the-time type bet on this texture.
We get the Qs turn.
In my eyes this is a relatively blank card. Neither player is going to have a ton of queens. Katya is going to have all of his AQ with a heart hands and pocket queens, but otherwise he mostly folded all of his queens, Likewise Chamlay probably only holds a Q if he has a heart in his hand and even then, most of his Qh will have just flatted the flop. Mostly whoever had the better hand on the flop probably still has the better now.
If Chamlay is raising a ton of flushes on the flop here, then I can see a relatively high frequency bet for something like a third of the pot being really good here on this really blank card with relatively short stacks behind. I don’t really think Chamlay has any incentive to overbet shove here, since his nutted hands essentially can’t be beat, and prefer to keep hands in the pot that can improve, and he wants to continue betting vulnerable for value as well, like a set of 6s.
We see a ridiculously tiny bet from Chamlay here. I guess indicating that he thinks his range is just shredding Katya’s here, since he has practically 0 fold equity. With this bet he seems to be saying “yes, my flop min-raise was very value/protection heavy so I have an equity edge on this pure blank.” That said, this bet size is sort of increasing my belief that Chamlay may be a weaker player. If he is a weaker player, it’s possible he’s giving away some information about his hand strength with the tiny bet. (Of course, it’s possible this tiny bet is part of a strong strategy that I am just really not familiar with.)
Katya elects to raise the tiny bet to 1750. Against this tiny bet, I assume Katya is playing pretty exploitatively at this point so I’m not sure what range he is raising. He could be raising a huge portion of his range (all his pocket pairs) if he thinks Chamlay is giving away something about his hand strength, and he knows the Q is a relatively innocuous card and doesn’t expect Chamlay to hit it very often. So, if he believed Chamlay was relatively weak/protection heavy on the flop, then the Q is basically a pure whiff and Katya can raise something like 9s, Ts, Js, and any Q he has here for value.
We get a call from Chamlay, which I think mostly caps him pretty hard given the stack size. If he had a very strong hand or even a mediocre hand with a large heart, he’d probably want to just shove here vs what looks like a pot committing bet from Katya. That said, it’s of course going to be possible to balance this, and Chamlay will have to find some defends with a large heart if he doesn’t want to be easily exploited on heart rivers. Given that he’s playing 25/50, it’s certainly possible he’s balancing this range well.
On the river we see the Jh, which is pretty strong for Katya’s range if we do assume Chamlay is pretty capped with the call ott.
I really expect to see check-jam here pretty often at this point given how capped Chamlay’s range is on this card. But I think Katya is honestly pretty damn low on bluffs here unless he is willing to turn something like 9s or Ts into a bluff, but I’d be surprised.
But it turns out I’m wrong again and we actually see a lead jam from Chamlay and a call from Katya. I don’t really know what to make of this to be honest. I don’t expect very many leads from Chamlay at all. Given that he is betting here, his value hands are probably Ah/Kh hands that he had like AQh or KQh. Once Katya calls, I mostly expect him to showdown a flush.
That said, we see a showdown that I really didn’t expect here.
From this showdown I mostly read that Katya thinks Chamlay is bluffing quite frequently on this river, and probably heavily weights him toward the protection portion of his range we mentioned earlier (6x, 7s, 8s, 9s) based on the bet sizes. So, he feels pretty confident that he can bluff catch against that range.
Very strange hand overall. I ran a PIO sim on the flop before checking out the actual lines they took (which I only looked at as I typed the commentary above). I don’t think it will be particularly relevant given what they did, but just for reference.
Katya is playing a generally mixed strategy with all hands OTF. He has an overall betting frequency of about 65%.
Chamlay is playing a strategy that involves only about 6% raising (though I didn’t give the min size, only 3x). It’s actually constructed relatively similarly to the raising range we described earlier exploitatively, hands that want some protection/to end the hand now like 67, 7s, 8s, as well as pocket 6s and some Ahh combos for value. It’s finding its “bluffs” from hands like AhQx and AK with a single heart (both at low frequency).
Against this raise, Katya will play exactly like you expect, calling all of his overpairs, flushes, and large hearts, with essentially no 3betting. Of course, this is against the large size. Against the min-raise Katya may have to make some more marginal defends.
As we an see, after this action, IP is doing quite well on face cards (since OOP won’t have many) and hearts (and especially Ah). OOP does the best on cards that hit his protection raising hands like 7s or 8s.
OOP will have a pretty decent leading frequency on most turns though, because despite the relatively poor equity, he does still have a pretty good polarity in this range. He can turn some of his previous protection raises into essentially pure bluffs and continue to bet his strong hands like flushes and sets.
For what it’s worth, 67dd is raised sometimes OTF, and then does lead the turn pretty frequently given the raise (although both the sizes I put in were much larger). It doesn’t call the raise OTT (but since I had bigger sizes everywhere, this raise is an all in) though.
Dec. 27, 2018 | 2:17 a.m.
This will be the second installment of a poker blog from here. You can find the previous one here: https://www.runitonce.com/chatter/staying-level/
I haven't posted on the old one for a while, and felt like a fresh start was in order, rather than try reviving the dead. In case you're wondering about me, at this point, I'm technically a recreational player. I don't play for a living. That said, you're probably not super likely to mark me as a rec if we play at the same table (unless we're playing PLO, or high stakes, then mark away). I've been studying the game for a little over a year and I've grown a lot as a player in that time. Mostly been playing 500NL on Ignition at this point, and some live 5/5 or 5/10 NL games. Dabble a bit in PLO, but I suck. I'll probably post some PLO content here too since I like to think about it. But take anything I say with a grain of salt there.
I'm going to try to keep this blog relatively content-rich, so that people actually have something to come to and read and get value out of. I tend to be disappointed with the written word where poker is concerned. The videos on this site are great, but I have a hard time finding good content to read. So, I'm hoping to fill that void a little bit in this blog.
To get started, I'm going to steal and idea from T. Forrester and P. Atwal and analyze a few high stakes hands from Stars. I probably won't do that for very long and will probably transition into something else. Let me know if you like the content, or would like different types of content (for example, the stuff in my previous blog is a little different). I'm all ears as to producing contenting that is actually helpful to readers.
Dec. 27, 2018 | 2:06 a.m.
On the KQ2 hand, I gave IP only 2x pot and a small block (I think you can't really give only 2x pot as the size because PIO doesn't really ever like something like that on face cards after the small bet, so it messes a little bit with strategy on other streets). But anyway, with the 2x pot and block as the only two options, kings has a strong preference for large bet.
Dec. 23, 2018 | 7:07 p.m.
On the first hand, the BB is a player that KRab marked as weaker during his last live session video. That said, watching that video, his play didn't seem that bad (although I clearly suck compared to KRab and probably AnZ8ar too so take my viewpoint with a grain of salt). KRab's mark is probably pretty marginal.
EDIT: P.S. can you send me a link to the thread? I don't really go on 2p2 but this thread sounds interesting.