Play hands that make nuts multiway , pps, connected stuff, suited aces etc. It Will be high variance to play 5-7way pots obviously, But if you play a solid range you Will be on the right side of the coolers.
Other good adjustments could be to go even bigger pre, around 8-10x could be reasonable tbh. Maybe its okey to use multiple sizings pre like a huge one with hands that works better vs fewer players and go standard 4-5x with hand playing well in multiway pots. Not a fan of this strat in general, But it might work well in a game like this if They are really clueless..
Sept. 17, 2019 | 3:35 a.m.
belrio42 3bet only is my default, but when i have weaker player in the blind i tend to call more often depending on how bad that weak spot is.
Why i think the spot is underbluffed. An assumption after playing alot in the pool and studying regulars :)
Sept. 12, 2019 | 9:28 a.m.
Good players just sounds better Samu Patronen , Good analysers ;D
Sept. 10, 2019 | 3:06 p.m.
CO: $371.44 (Hero)
Sept. 10, 2019 | 3:03 p.m.
MP: $317.62 (Hero)
Sept. 10, 2019 | 2:58 p.m.
Yea, that's a pretty damn low WWSF, and can be very exploited by observant opponents. I guess you still get to win because players at 10/25NL are not exploiting you enough.
I acctualy have the same problem, but my wwsf is around 45, wich is abit to low still for my taste. I think most topregs in my games are around 50% wwsf overall.
Would love to hear what other good players have to say about WWSF%, should it be over 50% from all other positions than BB? Im not an stat expert :(-
I tend to put people with wwsf below 45 as nits, 45-48 i think is decent number.. Over 50, still a good number, fighting even harder for pots wich is good, but here we need to start bluffcatching even more.
Back to helping you now!
Yes, some things stands out for me. I agree with Samu Patronen You are just playing a to tight game for my taste.
I would start by polish your preflop game abit, simply get some charts, i recommend snowies preflop stuff, its free and solid. Then Your 3bet and RFI should jump up a touch.
Then postflop, you need to start barreling more- probably look for thinner valuebets, experiment with bigger sizings, and pull the trigger more often- Don't checkback hands without showdown.
Looking at videos from good players is also a great idea.
Sept. 10, 2019 | 1:42 p.m.
I have started to apporach this type of spots very nitty, and find it working better for my winrate.
I completly agree with Samu Patronen , that IP is not supposed to do alot off betting here, and when he decides to bet(and even bet pot) We are much more likely up against AA/KK or even stronger hands. And i also agree that it's very counter intuitive to bluff this spot given our range and percived range.
I think PIO would call again(but not sure tbh against potsize) But then again im sure IPs doing a better job of bluffing the turn.
Another big problem is how do we play river? I don't think we have much if any implied odds here, do we donk on a riverd straight? Its gonna be nearly impossibole for IP do calldown AA/KK, and we will do face jam sometimes( he still can have boats ) And then we are screwed again.
So the way this will play out very often is xc turn, xf river to another big river bet- or calldown wich likely is bad given how unlikely we thought he was to be bluffing the spot.
Another way it plays out, xc turn and he xb a better hand OTR.
Or, we xc and bink the river with a straight- and lead. Unlikely IP calls worse.
Think this examples clarify how overrated our hand is in in this specfic spot- This is a spot that have screwed my redline -
Sept. 9, 2019 | 10:52 a.m.
I don't know really. Depends on IP range, if you really want the answer you need to dig into deep detail, like DNegs98 said, barreling one hand might get more/less folds than another combo and therfore tweak the EVs.
Just a tip, i would recommend using PIO to understand the bigger picture more and not stare blind into small stuff like this why one specfic combo does wierd thing OTT/OTR, it's really wasted time in my opinion. Focus on the more relevant things and frequent spots, for example how often we cbet different textures. Look for patterns and stuff, that are more useful ingame iny my opinion.
Sept. 9, 2019 | 10:37 a.m.
I Did ran it i PIO. I gave oop a range of JJ+ AQs+ and ip TT+ AQs mixing AJs/ATs i think a competent reg folds QKs here against cold 4b, just performs extremly bad.
When i ran this sim, IP floats TT and bluffs it as played, it also didnt allways ship AK otr, less than 50% (Im supposed to check AA/JJ and fold AQ 100% otr. Even ak is not to happy calling down:O
But i guess it all makes sense, just feels very weak to fold AQ 100%, when the spr is so big. But yeah, ranges are so strong that aq is not that high in range acctually.
Sept. 5, 2019 | 2:13 p.m.
Decided to look deeper into the spot with solver.. You were acctualy spot on Samu Patronen
Pio gets to the river with very few flush combos because it barrel them OTT mostly as you said, so we need to giveup then alot of AK/AQ with a heart as played.
I was expecting more checkbacks also with FDs OTT, but it decided to barrel them very often. And preferd a bigger flop and turnsizing, so they have a +EV call if OOP decide to checkjam turns.
Sept. 4, 2019 | 11:16 p.m.
Yea, good points. I do like to balance in a few flushdraws here, so i think im doing an decent job of being pretty balanced with this river jam, acctualy i thought i was underbluffing ingame. But i realize now i also have AhQ, so it's 8 natural bluffs wich i probably would jam very often ingame. So then yea, it's easy for me, and most players to bluff to much here. And then he correectly owned me with set :(
Sept. 4, 2019 | 10:48 p.m.
UTG: $817.02 (Hero)
Sept. 4, 2019 | 10:15 p.m.
Thanks Samu Patronen , i agree about preflop, this is a spot we should be extremly careful. He probably 3bet around 7%. Im going with a wider range than you mentioned, but i will reconsider- i found JJ and AQ not doing so well in this spot, and not getting so many folds pre.
Bingo 123 Yea, i agree. The big problem is that he don't have bluffs to pick from, he need to bluff like QQ allways lol or something wierd to make my hand a call:o
Sept. 4, 2019 | 9:50 p.m.
CO: $273.84 (Hero)
CO lost and shows high card Ace.
MP wins $486.77
Rake is $2.75
Sept. 4, 2019 | 9:45 p.m.
SB: $475.57 (Hero)
Sept. 4, 2019 | 8:43 p.m.
BB: $282.21 (Hero)
MP wins and shows three of a kind, Jacks.
MP wins $439.95
Rake is $2.75
Sept. 4, 2019 | 7:02 p.m.
Its a very thin jam, wich makes it unclear if it's for value or bluff. But we are obviously not bluffing AA here ever. Anyway, the question is do we really get called by worse 50%+ of the time when he calls? Im not so sure about that.
Sept. 4, 2019 | 4:31 p.m.
I think you underestimate the times you are beaten here. He can have 45/67/78/89s. TJs, JJ and a few slowplays.
Think standard is checkback. If you somehow know he allways donk or x/r strong, then you could possibly find a valuebet.
Probably not jamming tho, and only jamming trips+. It just very hard to get looked up by worse. Guess we target specifically 99, 89 QQs. If you jam
Sept. 4, 2019 | 3:55 p.m.
Sometimes i se it happen when the spot buys in short, and you don't want to be coverd by the regs necessarily. Apart from that, they have probably studied different stack depths alot, so if you buy in 40bb and you're playing against 100bb regs that have not studied how to play shortstack, you gain EV.
Sept. 4, 2019 | 8:29 a.m.
Rake is $2.75
Sept. 3, 2019 | 9:56 p.m.
Yes, you are spot on! DNegs98
Can you please explain ”rather than a dispersed equity advantage that allows us to bet for protection”
Can you give some examples of textures where this makes more sense to go small for protection?
Im Defently overusing the 1/3 wide stab in this spots, i don’t think it’s a very large error, But still important to be aware off.
Sept. 3, 2019 | 8:20 p.m.
Yep, Im also suprised afterall.
Yeah, oop range consists of some % AK so there we get some SD value, But its a very small portion of the entire range. And the rest of the range we do poor against with those pairs