Simplest explanation I can think of apart from player pool skill is in Zoom you're playing more hands/hr so you're gonna see more swings in a session. If notice you're losing a ton quickly then it might be wise to decrease your Zoom table amount
June 12, 2021 | 9:48 p.m.
I see. 68% should be required fold equity. Not sure why I always default to "I should be 68% good in this spot based on pot odds"
I see what you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong). For your example spot, it seems like Villain's underfold against your 3bet and so you're selecting bluffs that have the most effective blocker effect (ATo, KJo, etc) instead of board coverage - ie. suitted gappers, lower suited connectors. Using the blocker hands in this spot effectively decreases Villain's probability to 4bet while increases the 3bet to be successful.
I'll look at these filters once I get home. I would normally filter for "positions" and the rest such as "fold to 3bet", "3bet %", and "3b call after raise" in the search tab and use the filter "NOT" player is Hero. What do you think of this?
June 8, 2021 | 2:45 p.m.
Currently modifying/designing 3bet ranges against specific types of Villain's and here's a spot:
Villain opens 2.5x in EP, Hero 3b to 8.5bb
In this instance Hero's risking 8.5bb's to win 4bb's; 8.5 / 8.5 + 4 = 68%
Does this mean Hero's 3bet range should be 68% good against Villain's opening range or Villain's continuing range?
What are your thoughts on 3bet range construction? All answers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
edit: in the spot I'm studying I noticed how tighter the range would be if we designed a 3bet range against their open and I think this is because of how some of the strongest hands are still in their range.
June 8, 2021 | 1:29 p.m.
Not sure about the sample you have on Maniac but I still would assume opening from MP would be a strong range and a CO 3bet would be stronger. I find the CC strong as well even though we're this deep. If Maniac is sticky I think we might want to decrease our bluffing range -- if we're cold 4betting K5cc against MP and a CO 3bet we might be 4betting too much because this means we'll be 4betting hands like A2-A5, K6-K7 (not exact hands but this is to give you an idea of how wide the 4bet is) and other hands that balance our K5s 4bet.
May 13, 2021 | 4:01 p.m.
maco if we decide to cbet range here we're missing out on value with our stronger holdings like AK, AQ, A6, and 66 which could be placed in a bigger bet range. Wouldn't necessarily bet bigger with AA and QQ because we have the board locked down and we can use these hands to protect our weaker holdings like Qx and weaker Ax
May 13, 2021 | 3:49 p.m.
CatorMan I do agree. We can mix some big bets with the A9-K9 because they deny equity but also unblock the J and Tx here. These holdings also blocks the strongest sets in their range. Even though these type of hands aren't the strongest, betting small will keep their range wider with more hands that can outdraw us on later streets. To add, betting small will also increase our propensity to get raised and getting raised with these hands which would be troublesome because of their lack of SDV (against the top of Villain's range) and smaller chances to improve on later streets.
Edit: I also think betting big with A9-K9 is great because the combinations that will want to raise our big bet range the most will be their 99, 55, and Q9(25%-50%). Again, when they have less sets and 2pair we expect them to have a lower raise frequency which would affect how they balance their range with their bluffs so this can be an exploit we can take advantage of if they raise this board frequently
March 26, 2021 | 6:40 p.m.
It depends on range construction, board textures and bet sizing. If your pool bets bigger most of the time, the x/r% is normally lower; If your pool bets smaller most of the time, the x/r% is normally higher. There's no one size fits all answer but those are the main factors.
I find it has the same relation to my VPIP and PFR scenarios where they get extremely tight when I'm playing in aggressive pools especially when I don't get hands that could cold 4bet. For example: I'm on BU with hand that can open and EP opens but gets 3bet by CO or MP and I have to fold a hand that's good enough to open in those CO/BU scenarios but couldn't CC or 4bet then I have to fold. If I run into this scenario a bunch of times in thousands of hands when not holding cold 4bet-type hands then my VPIP and PFR %'s decrease.
I say that because asking people for a specific x/r% wouldn't give you the results you would like (higher winrate) but understanding what works for your general population and how you and they construct ranges will help based on fundamental principles that support check-raising.
March 6, 2021 | 7:33 p.m.
It seems like MDF is the way to go when it comes to calling in BB. Was thinking about pot odds as well?
Let's say Villain opens BU 2.5x and we defend in BB. Assuming we need 1.5bb to win 6.0bb then we would require an 25% equity to BE meaning we can call with a range that is 25% good against Villain's overall range. Does this sound correct?
I like the thought on range expansion based on how much they under defend. Will keep this idea in mind for future practices.
By saying "Villain should defend 50% of his range" when calling in the BB (let's assume he has a fixed 3bet range of X that is left out), do you mean they'll be continuing with a 50% range after we open in BU?
Feb. 20, 2021 | 5:44 p.m.
Apart from a lot of the solved preflop GTO ranges that are widely available, how do you guys go about formulating ranges that exploit your pool?
For example: If pool on the BU opens X% and they fold to 3b X% of the time and we're in BB, what is our range?
I've used different tools such as HoldEq (with Flopzilla) and Holdemviewer while calculating ranges that work well when calling 3bets and balancing our 4betting range, but having trouble figuring out the best way to construct a lot of SRP spots. This of course is disregarding a lot of heuristics that can come up in-game but more from a technical standpoint to get more accurate database solutions.
Feb. 20, 2021 | 3:58 p.m.
Agree with Jeff_ and the reason for the smaller bet is BB will have the nut advantage and range advantage on this board with the plethora of flushes while we'll have the stronger Jx/overpairs and top set. I think the problem with a smaller sizing is that it will be raised a fair amount in terms of BB raising more flushes due to balancing reasons -- if we use a small sizing on this board, BB will attack our range with even their weaker flushes - ie. 95s and the like - to get value out of our weaker holdings such as Jx, 7x, or even overpairs (possibly with a heart) that may continue against the raise. Getting it in on this board is very dangerous and I would prefer calling as well especially when we have a lot of outs heading into the river while being in position.
The best thing about the big bet here is that we're able to attack BB's somewhat "nutted" range here (excluding some stronger Axhh broadways since they're 3betting a lot of those) without getting raised as frequently as when we bet with a smaller sizing. Therefore, I think mixing big bet and small bet with our holding can work here.
After typing out the answer I just noticed how BB can SLIGHTLY less flushes in their range due to the 3bb raise preflop. This may change some technicalities but the overall logic may still work.
Feb. 18, 2021 | 3:23 p.m.
Consistent fast-paced progressive house or drum and bass. It's either that or consistent chill-step/melodic dubstep. Sure, the majority of the songs have lyrics but the majority of the songs are the drops that are very repetitive. The emphasis on consistent and repetitive helps me because it allows for white noise that doesn't bring anything "new" to my brain's attention. To add to this, I would listen to one song on repeat if I want to maximize the efficacy of the white noise.
Some say the hard core tunes make you play more aggro but in my case, they don't. Rap on the other hand does because it turns my brain to mush when the lyrics start getting the attention of my brain.
Feb. 18, 2021 | 3:12 p.m.
Currently going through SB vs BU aggregate reports where I added some weaker offsuit broadways to BU's range to account for the small percentage AA and KK traps. Comparing some similar low high high trees [which would normally give SB the equity advantage] I've found that SB's range advantage diminishes but maintains nut advantage and therefore our small bet frequency decreases as our big bet frequency increases.
With the given example and the known possible discrepancies, would you guys think it's a good idea to run sims that involve some traps? What are your thoughts and what have you noticed? Thank you!
Jan. 26, 2021 | 3:29 p.m.
Never really employed bigger sizings when deeper because deep. Why do you say so? I'm interesed in this and might start implementing the same thought process.
For me, a larger sizing means Villain defends less with a stronger range
Jan. 23, 2021 | 5:51 p.m.
Drum and Bass and Progressive House. Something consistent enough where the music doesn't take away my focus.
Will try to play without music when things are quiet at home though
Jan. 14, 2021 | 2:18 p.m.
Thanks for the responses guys. Appears that we have a verdict of and increased x/r frequency. We all have JJ but less of the other two sets. I guess a X/R would gain value from MP's stronger Jx and CO's draws.
What I should've taken into consideration was the lower SPR encouraging me to put money in the pot with hands that aren't as strong as if the SPR would be much higher
Jan. 11, 2021 | 6:47 p.m.
BTN: 162.9 BB
Hero (SB): 130.3 BB
BB: 120 BB
UTG: 111.4 BB
MP: 271.5 BB VP 21/PF 18/3b 9/F3B 83
CO: 120 BB VP 22/PF 17/3b 6/F3B 69
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kh Ks
fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 15.5 BB, fold, MP calls 13 BB, CO calls 13 BB, fold
Pre: Standard squeeze, not much to say but I was surprised about the 2 callers. MP is pretty deep but he'll be playing our stack depths.
Flop : (50 BB, 3 players) Js 8h 6s
Hero bets 15.5 BB, MP calls 15.5 BB, CO calls 15.5 BB
Flop: I'm not a big fan of this board. This favors the callers' range who have more sets and draws than I do BUT we can argue I'll be 3betting wider here since there's more dead money in the pot preflop. We hold the Ks which blocks some of their flushdraws. It's multiway, I have the range advantage but not the nut advantage. The biggest problem with betting this flop is the SPR is low in a 3way pot. If both players call KK wouldn't look so great especially if one of them decides to rip it in. I feel like a smaller bet OTF or checking this holding the majority of the time might work
Turn : (96.5 BB, 3 players) 2c
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 24.1 BB, Hero folds
Turn: All together I think this was a dicey spot where I'm sandwiched between two players who have sets in their ranges. I decide to fold since I block their bluffs and unblock their value. Would we ever shove Turn here against two Regs?
I find multiway 3bet pots to be the most difficult to navigate. Let me know what you think! Thanks
Jan. 11, 2021 | 4:02 a.m.
Villain will have more 65s-98s than us in this spot given he is IP and called a 4bet. I'm surprised he called with 66 means that he's overdefending.
We block Villain's traps but we unblock the lower PP's 99-TT. We also currently have the equity advantage and we're ahead of villain's draws so we can cbet here. Would normally go with 30% but since we're OOP we can size SLIGHTLY (maybe 35%). Overall, we have the equity advantage and although we block Villain's Ah draws, we certainly unblock the lower connected heart draws
Jan. 8, 2021 | 1:54 p.m.
I'm starting to do some scripting and I want to learn how to optimally study with the software.
What I know so far:
1. Set a number of X amount of flops
2. Run the solver
3. Paste the results on Excel
4. Interpret results
I feel like I'm missing something and it also seems like the flops are imbalanced. For those of you who are more experienced with this, what do you do to differentiate the different types of flops? What is your step-by-step process with this type of tool?
I would highly appreciate the help
Nov. 23, 2020 | 5:51 p.m.
lIlCitanul thanks for the responses Citanul, just purchased GTO+ and will have to go through some videos about the software. If you have any recommendations on videos feel free to let me know.
So far it's been pretty good. Comparing it to videos that use Pio, I've noticed how close the sims can be
Nov. 3, 2020 | 4:28 p.m.
I've read a lot of posts about GTO+ being the best option price-wise but I would like to know your current input.
I'm on the trigger of purchasing Piosolver's Pro version but the price is insane because of the added key. I'm looking into Pio the most because RIO videos often showcase analysis using the software and the coaches I would like to hire in the future use this as well. Pio's convenience [with the videos] and UI and the selling points for me. I also like Pio because it can be integrated into Simple GTO Trainer. Simple Postflop is currently an option as well.
For those of you who bought Pio, what made you choose it over other solvers? What are the differences? etc
Also, if you have any experience with other solvers please let me know what you think.
Thanks in advance
Oct. 24, 2020 | 8:21 p.m.
Just a note that MDF applies best in river situations where you either win or lose when you defend<
Will take note! I've been using the MDF to formulate preflop ranges in accordance to 3b% and F4B% against different types of Villains. Will have to look into river situations when I get there
Oct. 10, 2020 | 2:10 p.m.
joeeey JamesYang preflop is pretty standard. If Hero has a decent opening range the range will look range something from 30-38%. My standard would be opening ~400combos in CO. Villain's 3bet gives us an MDF of 39% so we should defend 156 combos not including the 4bet/call and 4bet/fold range.
If Villain has a 3bet% of ~11% and we plan on 4betting to 16/17bb then Villain's 5bet/fold range would look something like (TT+, AKo, AKs) vs that range we should be able to 4b/call (QQ+) [18combos] profitably and bluff (AQo, KQo/AJo 50% of the time)[16combos]. The 4bet ranges are assuming Villain's F4B is 50%. BU should be incentivized to 3bet wider here because CO's range is normally wide and BU wouldn't want SB or BB to gain EV from squeezing if BU + position post flop.
As you see, we still have to defend 156 combos to the 3bet excluding the hands we are 4bet calling and bluffing in order to make Villain's 3bet 0EV. 54s may or may not fall into the 3bet call range because of it's postflop playability as I would rather call with lower suited hands rather than with lower pocket pairs because of their inability to improve. It really depends on how Villain plays postflop in 3bet pots on whether I'm substituting the lower pocket pairs with other suited gappers etc.
Also, calling with lower suited connectors/gappers gives us the probability of having 2 live cards. It is sometimes tough calling with JTs-T9s because we're going to face domination issues in specific 3bet scenarios.
zinom1 The shove on the Turn is very interesting. If Villain's 3bet range is ~10-11% the hands we would be able to get value from are: AA, 99 (let's keep those in since he can slowplay top and middle set), A9s, A7s, AxKd and [maybe] AxQd (16 combos). The hands we lose to are KQdd, KJdd, QJdd, JTdd, T9dd, 98dd, 76dd (7 combos).
Hero risks $60 to win $196 and should be good ~30%. Hero's equity against those ranges is 1 - (7/16) = ~56% so it should be a +EV shove.
Definitely an interesting spot here and I think Villain should've played more cautiously if he called the raise with hands that don't block flushes. With the low SPR it's tough folding a flush since Villain might be shoving with hands that require a lot of protection -- a lot would vary on player tendencies
Oct. 9, 2020 | 10:26 p.m.
In terms of bluffs I can thinking of Ah9x turned into a bluff since he has the 9blocker and the nut flush blocker. Yeah, tough to really say because I block the weaker flushes that would call preflop and continue on the flop.
Oct. 9, 2020 | 5:18 p.m.
Hey guys, I thought this was an interesting hand. Still not sure why the hand histories won't accept the Raw Hand Review. If you have any suggestions using PT4 on how to resolve the issue let me know.
BTN: 120 BB
SB: 100 BB VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 8 ~79 hands
BB: 121.9 BB
UTG: 122.4 BB
MP: 126.8 BB
Hero (CO): 255 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Jh
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, fold
I thought the flat pre was pretty strange especially coming from a tight SB who might have the potential to 3bet Linear here. I would assume SB was targeting a weak tight BB who isn't keen on 3betting. This would obviously cap SB's range since SB would be inclined to 3bet his strong hands since I would call a decent amount of the time given position. So let's say SB doesn't have (JJ+, ATs+, AQo+). Hand sample is too small to give a slightly more accurate 3bet range.
Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 5s 9h 8h
SB checks, Hero bets 3.5 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB
This is a pretty good flop for my hand but isn't good for the nutted combos in my preflop range (JJ+). We both have the straights in our range and I believe SB has the sets as well -- again because of the weird flat I would weight it towards 55. The question is what would SB raise here? SB would possibly raise with AXhh, 76s, 55, 99, 88 and [possibly]98s. I'm not quite sure if this player type would raise overpairs. There aren't many KXhh combos SB would call with as well
Turn : (26 BB, 2 players) 4h
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
I think calling the turn bet was the best option here because we have position for the next street. I wasn't sure if raising was a good idea here because I would've loved protection from the board pairing but I also wanted to avoid a flush over flush scenario. Currently there are 6 combinations of nut flushes (discounted AKs) vs 9 combinations of sets and 4 combinations of straights which I both beat. Please let me know what you think about raising the turn here.
River : (52 BB, 2 players) 9c
SB bets 74.5 BB and is all-in, fold
This seemed like a great card for Villains range because it puts my hand in a tough spot where I lose to all Villain's 98s, 88, 55
Thanks for the read. Let me know your thoughts!
Oct. 8, 2020 | 12:27 a.m.
An update to my progress:
I haven't been playing well lately. I'm not used how fast paced NLz is. It's troubling because I'm lost a decent chunk of my bankroll through the week and I'm on a 20BI downswing in the week.
What I've noticed is that a lot of the regulars at these tables only raise with strong made hands. I'll have to start folding even top pairs on dry boards and consider folding overpairs in a scenario where I face a raise and a second/third barrel -- this strategy will be used mostly against the players with the reg-ish stats.
I'm not going to let this downswing [mostly due to bad play] put me down. I'm gonna work on the overcalling and hand attachment leaks I have and start folding made hands that appear to be strong on the flop but are made weak on the turn and even more on the river. What it appears to me is at 10NLz and most of the micros, aside from making the most money from fish, I'll be making the most money from making big folds.