i might also want to think about "lines" as opposed to an individual street.
For example, if you focus on only Turn bet sizings, will solver start to adjust on Flop and River so that it skews the results? Knowing you only have one bet size option may give you some unusual reactions unless you really study the other lines in depth.
for instance, it used to be 'standard' that if you were looking at Flop bet sizings, you could just input 2/3 PSB on Turn and River and the EV would be the same as many different bet sizings ( I think I remember this correctly), but it turned out that although the EV did not change much, the frequency of solver Checks/ bets/ raises on the Flop changed a lot in some spots. (and my memory is hazy, so if this is way off base, please correct me)
Just saying that perhaps you should look at Flop bet size options, combined with Turn bet options, combined with River Bet options, and think in terms of "lines to take" ?
Feb. 14, 2020 | 3:52 a.m.
At the beginning you mentioned 200bbs as stack size I think
if this is correct, how is this “extremely deep” ?
100bbs is standard , if you double up once I might get the ‘deep’ idea, but it I was expecting something closer to 300-500bbs
Jan. 10, 2020 | 2:04 a.m.
Ben, this comment by you years ago made a huge difference in my understanding NLHE. (thanks for chiming in back then)
Was there ever a question, comment, or discussion that made a big impact on your learning curve?
Dec. 23, 2019 | 8:44 p.m.
"Villain- weak reg"....
how so? Was he passive bad? If so, what do you think he is check raising PSB on Flop? Followed up by big but not huge Turn bet?
Smells a lot like a set, turned FH if he is passive type...
so, is he that type?
June 6, 2019 | 12:04 a.m.
RIT writes: "
I tried doing the $25+$5 for a couple sessions and was hovering up or down half a buy-in most of the time it seemed. It did work on getting folds or heads up going postflop. Just felt I wasn't really making much money. Also having to tighten my range with 5bb+1bb sizing didnt feel good to me, profitable but boring. Not sure if that is best way to beat my games in terms of maximum profit.
Not sure a couple sessions is anywhere near enough time to figure out if a strategy is working?
Your opponents are barely noticing what you are doing, it may take them a while to adjust?
I will admit to having the same feelings though, "profitable, but boring...." and struggle with this idea on its own. I mean, "Profits" is what I am aiming for, and should I really turn my nose up at 'boring' ? "Boring" to me implies less variance, and perhaps that is also not something to be dismissed too lightly?
Not saying any of this affects you the same way, just that you are not alone in facing these decisions. Good luck on the felt!
PS PokerSnowie would be very suspect in my mind for any type of multiway spots. If you check out Snowie's assumptions about ranges multiway, you will see how quickly they skew towards 'really really tight', which impacts the decisions greatly
June 5, 2019 | 1:26 p.m.
I like a larger sizing on the Flop as well, since it is a dynamic board with lots of straight and flush draws.
the min raise seems strange, in your experience, can the SB (who has not gotten 'out of line" raising" ever really have a strong hand with this sizing?
Would a passive player bet tiny to induce? (not in my pool)
I like the Flop call, wait for a safe Turn card, and your sizing seems decent as well.
If you try and pot control IP after a flop min check/raise, I think you are playing into the hands of SB who may be doing this with a draw? He should be weighted toward draws and weak pairs in my experience, and the river could be trouble.
What were your plans for a suited River, or a possible straight if the SB shoves into you?
May 21, 2019 | 4:25 a.m.
at 31:43 you mention going with a "bit smaller sizing holding KsTd on a Js6s5s Qd board" and then continuing that the player pool 'plays too capped on this flop..."
you were PFR in SB and BB flatted, the checked back Flop
1/ "i am going to go with a little smaller sizing, sometimes I overbet..." turned out to be 75%?
does this mean that since overbets are the big ones, and 75% is the 'smaller sizing' that you are not really going lower? I would have thought 75% to be on the larger or at least medium size?
2/ When you are two tabling would you mind saying "on the left" or "on the right" when talking about a spot rather than "On this one..."
I am old, and zoom tables go really quick for me, let alone two at the same time. I cannot see your mouse. Many times I can figure it out, and admittedly I can always pause and rewind, but "left" or "right" would make my life a lot easier...
so, "Please" .....if that helps :)
Really like all of your videos, like everyone else, but the "rolling" concept is a fresh take for me, so thanks for that !!
May 21, 2019 | 2:50 a.m.
PioSolver has a discord channel that has plenty of offers of Pre Flop ranges. You could even have someone custom make ones for you based on your exact rake structure.
If you have PIO Pro, you could also tweak and retweak your post flop calcs to come up with decent pre flop ranges, and you might even learn something about Ranges/Pio in the process?
PS most live games do not go head up to the Flop, so not sure how much help a PIO Pre flop chart will be
May 20, 2019 | 1:12 a.m.
The way I think about it is to wonder how strong a hand I will need to show down vs how many players?
For example, in a 5 way pot to the river, one pair , even AA may not be something I am proud to shovel money in with.
On the other hand, if I expect the hand to be head up or perhaps 3way at most by the river, I can start to think of one pair being good, as well as Fold Equity helping me out.
The other thing I try and keep track of is the tendency of the remaining players to play versus my range with dominated hands: will they flat T9o and then get to the river on a Ten high board? This gives me a chance at their stacks with AT-JT.
The more willing the player pool is to stack off with Top Pair weak kicker, the more I am willing to raise Pre with hands that can take advantage.
TL/DR It is not just the opponents' pre flop actions (do they call too often?) that is important. It is also are they reaching showdown versus the PFR often, or are they playing fit/fold on the Flop or Turn that impacts my strategy.
Good Luck with this timeless question....
May 20, 2019 | 1:07 a.m.
Pretty sure this is how/why Hand2Note software came about.
Like BigFiszh said, PT4 bogs down too much for database stuff like this.
look for Nick Howard stuff/ ddogkillah / arizonabay (sp?) for posts about this
May 17, 2019 | 7:15 p.m.
R I T -
Here is something that always stuck with me.... an idea presented by Grindcore, an online beast way back when:
If you were to take an AX hand versus an opponent's average AX hand where would the middle fall? So I would have expected Equity of A6 or A7 to be somewhere in the middle of all AX hands, since A2-AK is the range I am looking at.
May 17, 2019 | 6:06 p.m.
R I T-
When I saw your post, the first thought I had was "How do I expect to get paid?"
You have a hand that wants implied odds, but you are out of position.
If the Flop comes AXX, how will ever win more than the minimum, or lose lots more?
If the Flop comes XXX tt with your suit, how do you expect the various lines to play out? You are against a value heavy range in a player pool that is scared to death of flushes?
The reason Pocket Pairs work so well, is that you know instantly whether your equity is high, while the opponent is guessing.
When you are have a straight draw or a flush draw, you are the one guessing on whether opponent will pay you off, or force try and force you off your equity.
being OOP is bad, and I would think draws lose more value than most categories of hands in this spot.
May 17, 2019 | 5:49 p.m.
Ryan writes: "Before these last 100 or so hours I was winning 72% of my sessions this year, even higher last year, but seem to be taking a cliff dive recently only winning about 47% of my sessions the last 3 weeks. "
three weeks of live play is an unrealistically small sample to base any type of strategy deviations on. You get to see 30 hands an hour max, so if you were playing 8 hours a day you would have 30x8x21= 5040 hands. And that is already assuming a lot.
Something to consider is "why are you 3betting?"
If it is to get folds, are you in fact getting the folds from the type of hands you expect? Do not just go by percentages, but if opponents are raise/calling with KJo then you know your light 3bets are not really doing what you expect. Might be time to 3bet more often for value, less with a bottom end of your range?
Another thing to notice is how do my opponents react after I 3bet. Do they 4bet? If so, light or value heavy? If they only call, how do they play postflop? Are they making fit or fold mistakes post flop that might make up for your 3betting light pre?
Notice how the opponents react to SPR. If they playing shallow SPR spots the same way as deep (many do), you can tweak your strategies to take advantage of this as well.
Sometimes the value of a 3bet is as much getting others out of their comfort zone as particular range match ups.
Lastly, how do opponents react to you after they realize you are 3betting more than the other players in the game? Are they starting to raise less to begin with? Are they carrying over their perception of you into other areas of the game? (for example, when you play limped pots, do they react to more as a maniac than you really are, just because of your pre flop aggression in certain spots?)
lots of stuff goes into a poker strategy, and I am sure others can add even more things to consider.
TL/DR It is almost impossible to take a single play out of context and have a clear idea of what overall changes result. ie: changing 3bet ranges
to be clear, I struggle with this as well
May 17, 2019 | 5:31 p.m.
very cool ideas in this video, thanks....
I really like the minimal way you have info on the screen. A very unique style. Don't think I will ever see a powerpoint with these type images and not be reminded of Chris Pimmer
May 9, 2019 | 5:02 a.m.
S & F-
I used Snowie for years but stopped before they introduced their latest ‘training’ mods
One thing that was very difficult to remind myself if was how Snowie’s ranges were so different than what I was used to seeing in opponent’s play
It is a great tool imo with the major flaw of only ever presenting its own Ranges. For example have EP Opn then two flats and see recommendation for Btn continuing range, it is insanely tight, but probably correct given its assumptions about the flatting ranges
TL/DR - Snowie can teach you a lot as food for thought, but in low stakes games it may be difficult to implement
April 18, 2019 | 4:58 a.m.
AT5r would be one suggestion of mine...
For a Turn to never be static there might be two views of a Flop:
1/ Find a dynamic Flop that leaves few ‘holes’ for dry Turn cards
2/ Find a bone dry Flop where any Turn helps some part, no matter how small
April 18, 2019 | 4:41 a.m.
could have same hand? Perhaps KQ? Bluff? Could also have various full houses...
1/ You bet bigger on River- what calls that you beat for that sizing?
2/ If you are folding here- what are you bet calling with?
April 2, 2019 | 3:32 a.m.
if you 3bet this hand, you will [usually] chase out the OMC, or should we say Old Man Tea (Asian?), and really only worry about the young guy.
So what type of young guy is he?
1/ If he can raise / fold OOP previously he may already be better than average in a Bayesian sort of way.
2/ If he had a good hand, would he really have Raised to isolate to a size of less than Pot?
3/ What is his aggression/stickiness like Post Flop as a Caller?
4/ What is the chance he is Raising Small, but 4 betting you?
5/ Does he have a commitment threshhold? If you 3bet him to 12 BBs will he realize his 4bet puts him in a tough spot Post Flop?
6/ Think he will fold to your 3bet in the first place?
These are the kinds of things I would wonder, and then decide ingame>....
March 17, 2019 | 2:40 a.m.
I guess my general line OOP is to keep a pot small on a dynamic board where I cannot keep opponents from realizing their equity. It would be hard to get the money in good here, and since I cannot, I probably check a lot on this Flop.
I may not explain this exactly the way I want to, but I am trying to get at the idea that although we have a pretty good hand Pre, this Flop multiway seems to be a disaster. OOP it gets worse since we will be hard pressed to tell who wants pot odds and who want Fold Equity...
This hand seems like more of a a Bluff catcher than a hand I want to press Equity advantage with now on this board, and my usual response would be to keep the pot as small as possible.
You seem more prone to squeeze the players who have too much hope though... although that may be reading too much into it.
If you bet, and get called, a brick shows up on the Turn, you plan on bet/folding? bet/calling depending on size and number of opps?
If you bet the Flop and get raised, what is your plan?
March 17, 2019 | 2:03 a.m.
In your experience, with over a third of the deck appearing to help someone, what size would you think you need to bet flop to induce folds from hands you beat?
I guess I am wondering if sometimes, it is just not possible to bet a reasonable amount to deny them odds. Especially if the first caller puts more dead money in for the second possible caller.
Cool to hear your thoughts as you work through the hand.
March 14, 2019 | 3:42 a.m.
a player I know set up an Aggregation report, which has both EV and EQ values for various flops.
He then figured out how to randomly select a flop texture, have an input text box, and once you hit enter, you could see the actual answer in a separate area.
I cannot remember whether he could add his results together, but it did make it easier to study, since it seemed to make a game out of it.
I think Equilab can also do that but for a specific hand vs a range that you get to choose. Equilab keeps track of your answers, and then after you are done will give overall results.
I used to grind those for 15 hands a day. Does not seem like much, but that is 500 hands a year that probably would not have happened otherwise.
March 14, 2019 | 3:17 a.m.
First thanks for posting all of this, was cool to see someone else going through issues, and how they resolve them.
You are killing the low stakes games. If your goal is to play 2/5 you should have the cash to at least play there on weekends and Friday nights? You do not have to always be at a certain level, just play a few sessions a month at 2/5 to see if you think you can hang....
I knew someone who was the most knowledgeable 1/2 player at the casino. Yet he never moved up. Was crazy to me. Why would you not want to race to the top? At least you get a feel for what you need to work on, what "good players" play like, what your winrate might be at stakes that are not rake traps.
Plus inflation is always taking it's toll. 2/5 today is not nearly as expensive as it was in 2004.
If you can figure out a way to sit at 2/5 in my opinion, you SHOULD.