I dont want to use terms I dont understand 100%. But lets assume I want to be GTO. I took this spot where I think I am quite unbalanced.
All Paired Flops in a non 3bet pot.
How can I be balanced on a flop like 1)
1) 9 9 4
- cbet every gutshot-backdoordraw
- cbet every flushdraw / nuts backdoorflushdraw
- cbet top of my 9s ( kicker 6+ ? )
- cbet top overcards ( TJ / QK / AK / AQ / AJ )
- every 4x
- some bad 9x
- some good overcards
I did this "range" pretty fast. I basically wants to know if this approach goes in direction GTO or I did shit.
Dec. 4, 2015 | 9:21 p.m.
I started using or learning basic GTO concepts and implementing them. I try to play flop and preflop GTO and my whole game really changed and I like the style of the game a lot more. But in 3bet pots, do you try to be GTO or you play just the hand? If I would be my enemy, I would exploit that I dont have or have only a (too small) check-range in 3bet pots. The reason I check in a 3bet pot is the hope that I will get this way more money. If I check on a flop in a normal pot its GTO reasoned. Would you play in a 3bet pot regardless of GTO(I play everybody who sits me, only people I sit out who have a lot of GTO tendencies in their play and really good regulars/players - So I shouldnt be worried about being exploited in 3bet pots ?! )
Dec. 3, 2015 | 3:38 p.m.
Thanks for your advices. Stopped deleting it and got a much better mindset
Dec. 2, 2015 | 8:49 p.m.
Since I started playing everybody who joins my table(instead of bumhunting like last months or since learning HU) I got some problems with "selection". Now I get kind of really different players and also a lot of better players. But now my problem is how can I get some fast information that I have a real edge on my Villian? Or at least knowing that he is not running over me. Sometimes I get this kind of strange feeling and I dont know if I dont have a feeling for variance or if Villian is running over me.
Should I have nearly always the feeling that I am controlling the game and my Villian when my goal is grinding money? And sit out all other guys who I dont feel I can run over a solution for selection?
I improved a lot but I am bit afraid that I am leaking money by bad selection. Also those kind of games who lasts longer(300+ Hands) vs same Villian is kind of new to me and are a lot more stressful that playing bum after bum.
When to quit? Any suggestions?
Dec. 2, 2015 | 9:15 a.m.
I play mainly NL50 and NL100 HU. I have a more tighter approach and especially against those type of players(recreationals), I dont see a big point defending wide against a tight stealing range, but wide weak limping range. Also I dont see a big point in stealing a very wide range(I steal 70%), because most of my opponents have high3bet tendencies or just its easier to stack them with tighter ranges.
And now my theory question:
- does I lose a lot of "bb/100" by not defending more than 50% vs described players
- does I lose a lot of "bb/100" by not stealing more than 70% vs those kind of player pool as described
Is this kind of approach generally bad or should I use it still it works vs my opponents but doesnt expect much from such a construct vs regulars?
Nov. 22, 2015 | 11:39 p.m.
I am trying poker now "professionally" or at least "semi-professional" about three months. Playing like 6 Years(recreational, sometimes tried to get more pro, but too childish mind in the past). Most non-game leaks I could fix without help but some are left:
1) Checking and Updating Bankroll and Liferoll every x-hours / during session / end of day / during day .....
Especially after getting Bad Beats, or doing bad calls, stupid stuff, I always check my Bankroll on every site and update it.... I hate this habit. I am better now, than when I started back three months. But still checking too often. Will this get better with experience and time?
2) Deleting Database
I started to delete everytime I make a tiltmove or really stupid call my whole Database. Its like an addiction now. I will try to stop completely with that from today on.
3) Doing things besides Poker
I am doing Homework and study besides of poker. I am HU player and sometimes there is not much action. In this time I learn and do other stuff.
Any experience with 1-3 ? Suggestions?
Nov. 15, 2015 | 4:56 p.m.
Would be much easier to comment the hand if you at least post 3b% of CO or VPIP+PFR+3bet. I would fold. Calling turn and folding river suck.
His bluff betting range has much more outs against your hand, than your JJ against his value betting range.
Oct. 11, 2015 | 8:42 p.m.
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Oct. 11, 2015 | 8:23 p.m.
I am playing a long time poker but recreationally. This year I tried it seriously and things arent going that bad. When I invest a lot of time in theory, improving and posting hands and questions I somehow got the feeling that x+x forum became a troll board with nearly zero help.
Was this always so, or does I post in the wrong sections of the forum. I think I am remembering that at least 2010 the forum was very good and a lot of good content was there.
What do you think of the forum?
Oct. 11, 2015 | 8:19 p.m.
Oct. 11, 2015 | 7:04 p.m.
If he is a nit and you raise he will fold all hands you beat. Call Flop and Turn is fine.
If river is a brick I call and make a note if he has never here KJ/KT or busted flushdraws(And only a range like 55/AK).
If the blinds dont have high 3bet stats you can call also when regs are in blinds.(I am not sure about current 6max dynamics, but at least I would watch out for 3bet stats of blinds, and nits fold to 3bet stat, because they will only 3bet nit if he folds a lot)
Oct. 11, 2015 | 6:55 p.m.
Yes standard is fold.
He doesnt call much OTF multiway that hits on the river. QcJc maybe.
If you think more of the hand you should call because his line doesnt make any sense. What can call OTF except QcJc and what hits the river? He wont call with backdoorflushdraw AcXc 15bb OTF
Oct. 11, 2015 | 6:08 p.m.
I dont mean its a mistake to c/r. I just prefer calling for different reasons. The hand will be a lot easier to play when you flat. And I think also thats the biggest reason why I prefer calling.
1) If he calls you. What do you do on the river?
2) If he calls and the river makes you a straight but completes a flush - what do you do
3) If he calls and the river brings an Anonheart - you check and he 3/4 pot bet/Jam - what do you do
4) If he calls and the river brings an Aheart - you check and he 1/2 pot - 3/4 pot bet/Jam - what do you do
For me personally the hand gets too difficult on the river when we face action without Nuts. Also the most people I played will have on that board some times Air on turn and my Ahigh showdownvalue or a lot of outs against his small betting range.
And for example, also if you exclude TJ out of his range: If he got TJ he will reraise you OTT and you have to fold. If you only call and you hit on the river your nutsstr8 on a nonheart you will get his stack.
Another reason is just because he give as so good odds to only call, that I dont see a reason why I should bload the pot in the case he got a hand.
Oct. 10, 2015 | 11:23 p.m.
Fold its nearly always 99/77/97. He should 4bet with AKs, QQ in the blinds. If you dont have a read that he plays draws in such spots that way its always a set.
I would have 3bet much bigger PF to iso the fish for me or to provocate a gamble jam from fish.
Oct. 10, 2015 | 8:05 p.m.
Sorry it was really early in the morning after grinding 10hours+ and I misread the hand. Yes even passive donks rarely check here twice. Yes it is irrelevant and now I like also the play more. But I would more likely do such a move with the nut flush blocker. If you think his betting range requires to sometimes bluff the river, you can call the turn and bluff unimproved every heart on the river and call/raise if you hit your hand.
Oct. 10, 2015 | 7:32 p.m.
1) I dont like the jam river. I played some zoom NL2. In Zoom its mostly not good, but zoom is much more tighter
2) If he donkshoves I woudlt like a call here. A 9Ts draw could complete easily and shove for value. Also the flop isnt that drawy that he will a lot of busted draws on that runout, only a str8 draw didnt hit. And I dont think that he will abuse the bad runout at NL2 to turn his 9Tos in a bluff here
Oct. 10, 2015 | 4:07 a.m.
I played a lot of live(up to 5/T but I am not a longyear pro or something) and for me personally this play is spew. You can only hope that V is flatting here and not jamming and that you can hit the nuts on the river. The Hand started for me strange at the point where you limped and got raised. Its now harder in most cases to figure out the raisers range.
I dont know how I would play it, maybe just call the turn given the good odds and if a heart hits the river I get maybe a cheap showdown with A high and if I hit the nuts I can get maybe his stack.
He bets 30 in 80 multiway, do you have any reads on him, thats a sign that he is weak? JhTh? I mean betting 30 in 80 on that board is kinda strange multiway.
I dont like that play but maybe they are also some other opinions.
The worst thing for me, even that you limped this hand, is that you c/r bluff multiway into three people and three people acting after you(without extremely good reads on all three guys after me, or at least two after me, I would never do that + You even dont have the nutflush blocker + Live people give a fuck about odds they call your raise with every fdraw/draw anyways)
Oct. 10, 2015 | 3:55 a.m.
I don't think the call is good. Maximum breakeven. At this spot I don't need a range of hands based in rfi or something like that, I just must know how often is my opponent likely to jam allin bluff here or semibluff and what his raise/allin range is. If I saw he jams here only sets and flushes than I am folding. If he jams here also Qxh I am maybe calling and so on.
But the easiest play is too fold, I mean who is multi tabling and jams here 100bb except he doesn't have a read on you that you fold extremely too much
Oct. 9, 2015 | 5:23 a.m.
I am HU player and try also to improve 6m. I wrote above just my thinking about the hand.
Others posters most preferred heros line with check-call / check-call / check-fold.
My main problem with this line is how do we get exactly value when we hit our flush on the river? Only by flush over flush and spew?
If V bets 1/2 pot is it an easy call for you?
6m is relatively new to me and compared too HU a lot less aggressive.
Oct. 9, 2015 | 5:14 a.m.
Bet / fold is mostly here correct, bet 1/2 pot and fold to a raise, you only beat a bluff
Oct. 9, 2015 | 5:01 a.m.
I am not reg but would prefer 3betting.
As played I would bet the river if there isn't any history. If you bet only nuts in that spot we turn our hand in a bluff catcher because Villain will mostly only valuebet hands that have Qflush beat and his bluffes. Also if you don't bet , he can't make a calling mistake. Leveling, tilt, overthinking... All things can happen. Also what's with his baby flushes? They won't valuebet and check back but definitely call
Oct. 9, 2015 | 5 a.m.
Just overfly it. Saw coaching and blababalalla.
I advice you to play zoom poker on stars and start with NL2. Get a tracking software and after 50k hands you can analyse your database. On NL2 mistakes aren't expensive if you live in the first world. After 50k hands you can really easy find leaks and spots were you lose a lot of money. Also you will get a feeling for variance, run goods, and bad run.