2/4 PLO Easy call?
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2/4 PLO Easy call?
€400.00 EUR PL Omaha - Tuesday, December 18, 11:58:07 ET 2012
Table Flop PLO 251 (Deep) 200 Min (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €142.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 3.8, Hands: 334
Seat 2: Hero ( €1925.92 EUR ) - VPIP: 34, PFR: 26, 3B: 11, AF: 3.9, Hands: 187911
Seat 3: Player3 ( €688.10 EUR ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 1, 3B: 3, AF: 1.1, Hands: 202
Seat 4: Player4 ( €340.20 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 414
Seat 5: Player5 ( €400.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 2.4, Hands: 803
Seat 6: Player6 ( €844.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 3.5, Hands: 1347
Player4 posts small blind [€2.00 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€4.00 EUR].
Dealt to Hero [ 4d 7s 3s Kd ]
Player6 folds
Hero raises [€12.00 EUR]
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 raises [€34.00 EUR]
Hero calls [€26.00 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Jh, Ks ]
Player5 bets [€45.00 EUR]
Hero calls [€45.00 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
Player5 checks
Hero bets [€104.00 EUR]
Player5 calls [€104.00 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
Player5 bets [€213.00 EUR]
Hero ???
Ok, so I'm mostly posting this got get into the habit of posting stuff here. This hand seems fairly easy to me afterwards when I studied it but it might just be bias due to results.
Villain is a tightish reg who seems a bit weird. I think he might just be new to the game or maybe just not very smart. Or it's just too small of a sample and he's just been doing weird stuff in the few hands I've seen. I think the raise pre and the call of the 3bet should be 100% standard vs a fish button and blinds that's not 3betting that much. On the flop I'm not sure if call or raise is standard but it'd seem to me that a call is much better since I almost never get it in as any kind of substantial favourite on this flop. Turn is a great card for me so I bet what I'd consider a fairly normal amount but I think the sizing is debatable. It's my standard though.
The river fuck's up my hand strength compared to his 3bet range which includes a ton of AA, Rundowns with kings that now beats me and a fair few rundowns that includes a Jack. Some of those might want to c/c turn since they feel they have enough equity to do that but not enough to bet/call. Dunno if that logic is sound, but I think a few people would do that some % of the time.
Ranges: My range would is probably not super strong here. I'd probably ship any NFD+pair, most two pairs (it's hard to flop without a draw to go with them on this board), any set and good combodraws on the flop. My range on turn is therefore anything strong enough to call a bet but not to raise and some very rare slowplay. Basically bad pair + draws, some two pairs that wanted to see a safe turn and weakish draws. He can probably figure that out. When he checks I don't know what he think I bet, which is unfortunate but I might be weighted to 2p+ and "airy" weak draws and that I'm weighted to weak hands since the 3 is unlikely to hit me. However, in that case he'd probably try to move me of it with a c/shove so he obviously gives me at least some kind of credit for a hand or he's slowplaying on the weirdest board ever. I don't think he'd ever c/c with two pair or better and he should be aware of that.
The river shove is a little bit more then 1/2 pot.
Stuff in favour of folding:
1. In his mind his shove might be to small to move me of a hand.
2. It looks so dumb and he has to be aware of that.
3. Most of his strong draws would probably bet/call turn which leaves fairly few combos of hands that is a, in his 3bet range, b, betting flop and c/c-ing turn and c, weak enough to turn into a bluff.
Stuff in favour of calling:
1. His value range should be very narrow and a big chunk of it would probably c/c some % of the time if he considers me bluffly (which he probably does to some degree).
2. It looks so dumb it has to be a bluff.
3. I think I might actually be towards the topish part of my range except for like J8 and some random Jacks considering how I can't have KJ or a set and I would probably check back a lot of jacks on the turn given that I really don't want to be c/shoved on with a weak pair and a draw or something like that.
4. Great pot odds.
Thoughts?
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