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Thanks for the comment JRL. After a couple of months of play I've concluded on this board texture it's usually best to check-raise the flop given that so many turns can improve his range when he has AA, KQ, JJ, 10-10 type hands which can make a bigger set. If I occasionally check-call here, that's the best line to take and still get some value against A-x two pairs, other two pairs, A-K. Definitely check-raising turn is a bad spot as there are straights or straight draws that can call and get to the river for cheap, and even when opponent goes all in, it's a tough decision so check-calling would be best on all three streets to control the size of the pot
May 22, 2018 | 7:28 a.m.
Thanks James. That he would not be value betting any hands would make sense so the question is that if his pre-flop range hit the board, would he be turning his hand into a bluff, or simply checking in position on the river. There are too many hands that win in the situation to justify a call, I suppose leading out would have been the best line and even check-raising earlier on since it is such a coordinated flop.
March 15, 2018 | 2:39 a.m.
I was in a hand where I thought based on my opponent's play, I was making the right decision to slow play a set vs. my opponent who is a TAG player, often folds when played aggressively against. For some reason, the way the hand went down, and the size of the pot, I made a terrible call for about $900 into a pot of roughly $560.
In a live $3-5 table, effective stacks are $1,000, my opponent has maybe $2,000, and I have about $1,300.
Preflop:
2 limpers, my opponent raises to $45 and it folds to me in the BB, and the two limpers fold. I call with 4-4. The pot is $98.
Flop:
Kh Qh 4x
I check to my opponent who continues for $45, and I call. The pot is now $188.
Turn:
Jc
I check to my opponent, and he continues to bet, this time $85. I think for some time before 3-betting to $185, assuming that if the river is not a heart, I should be good and lead out $300 for a call. After tanking for some time, my opponent calls.
River:
3c
For whatever reason, at the time, I deviated from my plan and checked, hoping to check-raise for maybe $400. My opponent went all in. After thinking for a while, I thought of the combos of Ace-x he could have, but didn't put him on KK, QQ, JJ, etc. since I assumed he would bet more with those hands, maybe 4-bet on the turn. There was no 4-bet pre-flop, so certainly A-10 could have been possible but I would not know. I did not think he would bet $45 with 9-10, so the only hand that would make sense would be A-10 or a bluff with 2 hearts, maybe A-x? Anyhow, I did not put him on A-10, and thought he semi-bluffed to the river, and I called with 4-4 and was disappointed to see that he showed A-10.
Analysis:
The fact that I even paid off about $900 after an initial investment of $280 is a pretty terrible decision without the nuts in that situation, or even second nuts with a straight. A ton of sets beat me as well. Did the hand begin to take a downturn at the flop, turn or river the way I played? Certainly in hindsight I think a check-raise would have been a better move on the board since it was pretty wet, and on the turn, if I used such a small sizing I most certainly should have been leading the river for value and if I was 3-bet I could easily fold. However, I put myself in a difficult decision, and assumed because I checked, my opponent went all-in to eliminate the possibility of me calling with 2-pair or a set, because he was in fact repping A-10. Does anyone have any thoughts to how I should have approached this hand, and how to correct my logic next time to include the fact that opponents could have flopped and turned a lot of bigger sets, and almost would never go all-in on the river with those hands? Or is it the fact that I decided to slow play, and get lost in the hand when the turn came? Should I always be folding the river in this spot? Thanks.
I thought he was TAG but could consider spots where he could squeeze or bet big with marginal hands maybe in the top 35% of his range while in position. He was very hard to read and pretty sticky when in position but typically bet big when he actually had a big hand which was occasional. At this river, instead of calling off my stack, I think this is a wise spot to just stop and think here, maybe I've made a mistake on the turn. This line would make more sense as a big river bluff if I had some A-x suited and turned it into a bluff. But overall the hand is pretty poorly played and I appreciate your feedback on ask these questions, especially what is he representing when he does go all in unless he's known to be some maniac who has been bluffing all his chips away.
May 22, 2018 | 7:34 a.m.