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This is my identity:

Jan. 21, 2017 | 3:11 p.m.

Timex now puts the line at humans losing 400bb per day:,

Losing at 12bb/100 pounds up:

Jan. 21, 2017 | 4:44 a.m.

Dong is down 40k, while Jason is up 10k. It must be the massage that Jason is getting now that is making him win. Humans should've started with massages from the start!

Jan. 21, 2017 | 1:18 a.m.

The AI bots be like:

Jan. 21, 2017 | 12:17 a.m.

Wow, humans are getting crushed by almost 12bb/100 now. These bot developers have really improved the bot overnight, or is this just luck?

Jan. 19, 2017 | 3:34 a.m.

Humans getting crushed currently, not looking good.

Jan. 19, 2017 | 2:35 a.m.

Looks like Jason won 40k and Dong won 30k the second part today.
Dan and Jimmy are not playing today due to being sick and unable to play.

Jan. 17, 2017 | 2:27 a.m.

Dong just lost 2k instead of full stack, folding this river.

Jan. 17, 2017 | 1:51 a.m.

Bot called river shove!

Jan. 17, 2017 | 1:28 a.m.

To be fair to CMU, these bot vs bot matches often were played over much larger samples than 80k. So it is natural there to use 95% certainty to decide if a match is a draw or a win. But elite poker player don't want to play millions of hands HU against a bot that tanks for a minute in a checkdown pot for any amount of money that is afforable to CMU.

For humans beating someone for 9bb/100 over 80k hands is just crushing.

Jan. 17, 2017 | 12:47 a.m.

Ok, interesting hand here. Jason folded to this river overbet, Doug Polk said in the chat that the fold was good.

But guess what the bot had?

(Dong folded to the large 3-bet)

Jan. 17, 2017 | 12:37 a.m.

Quoting Jason:

At the start of each session and each table we enter a seed number to randomly generate our hands. Dong and I use the same seed numbers so our hands are mirrored.

I was instructed to enter a several digit seed number and I asked for the CMU representative to confirm it was correct. Coincidentally today I also asked for them to be confirmed on server side so we never make the mistake of playing hands that have to be invalidated.

Unfortunately that happened today on my Session 2 Table 1. As a result Dong and I played two separate strings of 350 hands. The CMU team and us are in agreement the hands have to be invalidated in order to preserve the integrity of the competition. Therefore, Dong and I are now 350 hands behind Jimmy/Dan and we will have to make them up at some point.

From a results oriented point of view it sucks because I won approximately 28k off that table and Dong won approximately 30k. We still had a winning day but unfortunately not as good as we INITIALLY thought. I wanted you guys to know this so you understood why we only gained 40k today when it would appear much more if you were watching on stream.

In order to prevent his from happening again, CMU will now be responsible for setting up every match. Therefore we will no longer have any responsibility on a match setup so if this happens again, it won't be our fault and the hands will have to stand as is.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 7:31 p.m.

Strange play by Dong, 4-bet pot and he made small bets on the flop turn and river. He got raised on the flop and just called, bet 3k on the river.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 7:30 p.m.

Hundreds of hands from yesterday were invalid because the bot owners made a mistake. The humans were winning 50k+ in those hands. These hands have to be played over.

Dong is up 40k+ after 200 hands.

Meanwhile Jimmy has reached the high hand qualifier:

Bot folded to the raise.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 6:18 p.m.

Welcome to the jungle!

Jan. 15, 2017 | 2:35 p.m.

Yes all hands that Jason gets are mirrored for Dong. So when Jason got AcJs in the big blind on Kh6hQhTsQc against QsTc in hand 221/400, Dong got QsTc in the small blind on Kh6hQhTsQc against AcJs. This goes the same for all hands they get.

And Dan and Jimmy are paired/mirrored in the exact same way. The idea behind this to reduce the variance that you get from a player getting better hands and/or runouts than the bot or vice versa.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 1:53 p.m.

The hand against Jimmy with AA was 36hh.
It went raise 3-bet, 4-bet, fold. Where Dan folded the 63hh obviously.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 3:59 a.m.

Dumping more handhistories.
Very loose call on the river here vs the overbet. It might have trouble figuring out ranges on this weird limp/raise-check-bet-raise spot:

Jimmy started limp/raising (with AA) also:

Bot 3-bet 5-bet jamming AKo:

Large 3-bet from Jason, followed by a check and check/fold. Might've been a slight mistake.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 2:48 a.m.

Yeah I'm glad the humans are making some adjustments.
For instance the T5o and A7cc calls, I assume they would now always call with their blockers for trips, no more (contemplating) ubernit folds.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 1:39 a.m.

Will the humans book their first win today? They started the day at -193k.

Jan. 15, 2017 | 1:23 a.m.

Bot called 3-bet and barreld it off: half pot on flop, pot on turn and overbet shove river:
Again poor play by the bot, blocking some straightdraws that missed and probably running into a straight too often. It seems like everytime you're at the river with a bluffcatcher and some card removal you can just click call.

Jan. 14, 2017 | 10:59 p.m.

The Dong just outplayed the pot.
Very weird play by the bot, potting the turn and 2x pot overbetting the river. It is hard to see what t he bot is repping, maybe TTTT?

Dong tanked for really long, looking at his notes, discussing. He was happy after he called.

Jan. 14, 2017 | 10:59 p.m.

Dan faces a river overbet after the flop and turn go pot pot.
He decides to jam the remaining 7.5k, will he be ahead when called?

Bot folded btw.

Jan. 14, 2017 | 10:10 p.m.

Jason just owned the bot. He 3-bet with QJ and called down overbets on turn and river:

Jan. 14, 2017 | 9:09 p.m.

Another hand from Jason.
It was 356A with two hearts on the turn, bot bets 2.6k in 2k on the turn.
River A and the bot shoves with T7hh. Jason called A7cc without hesitation.
Another bad bluffing hand from the bot, negative blockers!

Jan. 14, 2017 | 8:47 p.m.

Dong doesn't manage to win a stack in the mirrored spot. The bot didn't 3-bet AJo.
Flop checked through, normal bet on the flop (bot traps).
River Dong bets normals, gets raised to 6252 and thinks a while how large he should raise, goes with 18k and the bot snapfolds.

Did humans got outplayed because the AJo didn't 3-bet?

Jan. 14, 2017 | 8:36 p.m.

Jason reraises river to 7k and bot snapfolds:

Jan. 14, 2017 | 8:26 p.m.

Dong did very similar. He made a massive 24x 3-bet, and overbet 6000 into 4800 on the flop.
Shove turn (almost) on a blank turn and the bot folds.

Jan. 14, 2017 | 8:14 p.m.

Another loss for Jason, he bet 2399 into 3808 on this river and called the shove and the bot had QTo:

Jan. 14, 2017 | 7:08 p.m.

Interesting hand, 5-bet pot:
Action goes Jason opens to 272 with KQs, gets 3-bet to 680, 4-bets to 1530 and gets 5-bet to 3060, call.

Flop JT6ss, bot bets half pot 3060, Jason "takes his equity" and shoves. gets called after a little tanking.

Jan. 14, 2017 | 7 p.m.

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