Kevin
30 points
I'm interested in the Cory Mikesell book PLO 3B Pots: Game Theory and Practice. I recently went through the PLO Puzzle course on RIO focusing on SRP. I study a lot better with guided courses/books. The book doesn't seem to be available to actually purchase through his website or the plo quickpro site.
Questions:
- Anyone read this book and what are your thoughts?
- Still relevant in 2023 I assume?
- Is it worth the price?
- Where can I obtain a copy of the book?
Thank you!
Dec. 15, 2023 | 5:26 p.m.
Calling the 3bet OOP preflop with your hand is at minimum a slight mistake. As played, I think folding flop is the right play since all you have is ten high with a gutshot and your implied odds are low and likely to not get paid off if you hit since his range is somewhat wide considering you've pegged him as aggro. Hope that helps.
Aug. 9, 2015 | 10:59 p.m.
I think if he wanted to bluff he would most likely lead river
Feb. 21, 2014 | 12:40 a.m.
I would say fold, looks like the nut flush. Ace weak kicker of spades would play this line.
Feb. 21, 2014 | 12:39 a.m.
agree, call and take the pot odds
Feb. 21, 2014 | 12:35 a.m.
Yea I think 3bet pre is best to avoid these awkward post flop situation with TT. 99s and under I think is good to flat pre. The way it was played, I think its kinda close and leaning towards checking since they both called your flop raise so their hands look fairly strong... Check call/fold river based on bet sizing. I know this may not have been the best advice but i tried, haha
Feb. 21, 2014 | 12:33 a.m.
Haha, why is everybody so curious? I guess I must sound like a giant fish that everyone wants to scope out haha. I know for sure one will be Bovada, still debating on the 2nd site. Is there something I should know about any sites, or is everybody just curious.
Feb. 20, 2014 | 2:58 p.m.
Reply is below... my bad
Feb. 19, 2014 | 6:38 p.m.
Thanks Piper! It is the total bankroll, so right now i have 28 BI at 25NL.
Feb. 19, 2014 | 6:36 p.m.
I'm restarting my journey into online poker again today. I know most people probably won't have much interest in my personal experiences, so this is just as much about me staying accountable to myself and providing a roadmap to myself as well the ones who choose to follow.
A little bit about me, I grew up playing serious high level tennis. When I was 18 I was top 10 in the US and then earned an athletic scholarship to play at a big well known University in the US. I now coach at a college and coach national junior tennis players. I, like most people here, am highly competitive and I expect a lot out of myself. I do have a very difficult time controlling my emotions when I don't play well and/or lose. I had a difficult time with this early in my tennis career and finally matured to where I don't have any anger issues at all in tennis. My poker "career" is still in that early stage and I have not matured enough to not have it affect my poker game.
I've kinda played semi-"serious" on and off for the past 3 years. I've struggled with tilt issues and tilt-demolished my built up bankroll many times to therefore feel guilt, embarrassment, and lose tons of playing experience b/c I did not have a bankroll to continue playing and improving. I've done everything from playing much longer when losing to jumping way up in stakes when I'm stuck. I feel that my tilt is induced by my competitiveness and I now think it is subconscious anger towards the fact that I have not put in enough work on my game to be good enough to be a winning player. I'm a fairly "big-winner" playing live and I think that has to do with the slower pace, fear of judgement from others if I do tilt, and the inability to have access to my whole bankroll at just a click of the mouse.
I know I'm capable of being a winner at this game and I think I'm smart enough and strategically savvy enough to do well at poker. Of course I've day dreamed about making millions and playing poker professionally, but right now I really just want to get better at poker, be a better student of the game/my game, and become a solid consistent winning player. So, with my recent time off from poker I've come up with a game plan to achieve these goals.
I'm splitting my $700 bankroll between 2 sites (so I can table select better and reduce my fear of losing my bankroll if one of the sites gets shut down). I'm starting out at 25NL. My bankroll management will be
$550 Move down to 10NL
$1000 Move down to 25NL from 50NL
$1250 Take 5 BI shot at 50NL
$2000 Move down to 50NL from 100NL
$2500 Take 5 BI shot at 100NL
$5000 Move down to 100NL from 200NL
$6000 Take 5 BI shot at 200NL
I'm also going to implement a warm-up and post/pre game pt4 evaluation. I had HM2 and felt like it was almost like reading chinese, so I really never used it except for the HUD. I just got PT4 and I love how user friendly the interface is. I'm starting with 4 tables and want to gradually move my way up to at least 6 tables. I'm limiting my sessions to strictly 45 min at first and work my way up to 60 min. I feel like over this time is when I can get tilted easier and start playing bad. I think eventually playing up to 75 min+ but I think that will be awhile until i get comfortable with less.
So, thank you all if you read this. I hope to gain your support/advice and I will try my best to return the favor. I will try to post updates every week to keep accountability with myself and from you guys. I'm excited about this plan and please give insight if you think any of it is bad or if you have better suggestions. Best of luck at the tables!
Feb. 19, 2014 | 4:04 p.m.
stoved*. 2nd range is (minus QhJh and JhTh) and only includes AhKh and no other AK
Feb. 19, 2014 | 2:50 p.m.
I stoves your hand against a range that I thought might be possible against this villain (maybe on the loose side) with: 2 Combos AA, Ak, 99, 77, 33, KhQh, QhJh, JhTh, 6h5h, 5h4h. It gave your equity as 55%. If he's playing tighter UTG (only AhKh, QhJh, JhTh) then your equity drops to 25%. So if you then he's raising UTG and firing all 3 streets with the first range then its clear call, but 2nd range its a clear fold. Hope that helps.
Feb. 19, 2014 | 2:48 p.m.
Would Villian raise somethin like 5h6h, 78 suited or KhQh pre or is he just raising UTG with big pairs? His stats VPIP/PFR stats seem almost like the first set of hands I mentioned. Without too good of a read I think you made the right play to fold for less variance. With a better read on opponent that he's capable of triple barreling or double barreling and firing river with Kx then it's obviously a call.
Feb. 19, 2014 | 12:27 a.m.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for the info!
Feb. 18, 2014 | 1 p.m.
A: Yes, you saved $0 =)
Feb. 17, 2014 | 4:55 a.m.
Probably old news by now, but I just read an article that Merge dropped all NJ and Delaware players so they won't get sued by the now regulated online poker rooms that operate there. Does anybody know if other US sites are following suit? (ACR/Blackchip, Bovada...)
I hate how it always keeps coming to things like this in the US and it makes me super paranoid. I think it really does affect how I play with these thoughts/paranoias in the back of my mind.
Any thoughts from others on this? Thanks!
Feb. 16, 2014 | 3 p.m.
HOTSANDWICH, playing devils advocate, if its that easy then why don't you and everybody else start your own Mark Cuban businesses. Those are absolutely outliers and a product of variance and their skill set just like there are with poker players. Now, the ability to exponentially grow your money is much easier with businesses because you have others working for you (for the good or the bad).
Businesses have such a high failure rate and with many of them have such high overhead and other expenses just to operate and break even, on top of their living expenses. To be just as successful you have to know the right people and be in the right place a lot of times. Not as easy as what you make it out to be. P.S. I do own my own small business and it has extremely low overhead in a specialized area where I have a niche.
Personally, I'm kind of split between full time and part time professional poker players. Part time is obviously the safer route, it limits your upside potential gains but also limits your downside potential losses. If you are extremely skilled and can handle that pressure, then I say full time might be a good option. If you have other dependents and have to work hard to be successful then I think diversifying your income is the best route. If you can own a successful small business that doesn't take up too much time and can play poker then you open up your options and have the best of both worlds.
Feb. 14, 2014 | 9:54 p.m.
Now you're really laying the guilt trip on me, haha. Just shows he seems to be a stand up guy. Bill Cosby is the man
Feb. 14, 2014 | 5:42 p.m.
Haha! I'm just amazed that nobody offered the suggestion of a retake, or maybe that ended up being the best version......
Feb. 14, 2014 | 2:37 p.m.
Haha, thanks for not excommunicating me Phil! I never left, just had a moment of impaired judgement =). But seriously, thank you for all the great work you've put into the site and for giving the time of day to the little guys in poker like me. I look forward to more of your great videos (btw I loved the last one and the idea of 2 shorter videos). Happy Valentines Day RIO!
Feb. 14, 2014 | 2:30 p.m.
P.S. I guess thats what I get for being a traitor =/
Feb. 14, 2014 | 4:04 a.m.
So I signed up for IveyLeague bachelor plan today mainly to get more videos of 25NL coaching footage and to try it out for a month. As much as I love RIO, I do feel like those stakes are lacking in the Pro Video department. With my essential package here I feel like it'll be tons of content for under $20 a month. Sidenote, RIO is far superior in quality, presentation, and usability.
Well, on the sign-up page it automatically places you under the yearly package. I switched it to the monthly package and after I completed registration it says "Congratulations on your Yearly Bachelors Subscription!" Nice Hustle Ivey!
Granted it turns out to be under $6 a month, but I'm still pissed. I emailed support and still haven't heard back. So be forewarned... Needless to say, RIO has absolutely secured its spot as my first love. Hopefully I'll get out of the micros soon and be done with it so I can fully understand/implement all the great coaching advice from my favorites like Phil Galfond and James Hudson.
Feb. 14, 2014 | 3:53 a.m.
Granted its only 18 hands, but I think just looking at his 55/22/0 stays tells you he's loose passive and he's going to be passive unless he has a nuttish hand...
Feb. 13, 2014 | 7 p.m.
Monsters under the bed syndrome. Shove river, if he has worse, the times he calls shove outweighs the slightly more number of times he calls super small river bet. If he has AA, AK, you just ran into top of range and nothing to do about that.
Feb. 13, 2014 | 6:45 p.m.
His UTG raising range is strong and his line seems super strong. Your hand seems fairly face up with your line. IMO his value range consists of AA,KK,99 and maybe 55. His river bluff range likely consists of JsTs and AsKs. I feel like he check calls his big Q's and would be very unusual to turn weak Q or middle pair into a check raise river bluff.
I agree with toothpaste, river bet is almost never getting called by worse unless you have some crazy history with villain. Hope that helps
Feb. 13, 2014 | 6:38 p.m.
Depending on his FCB, CB flop is ok even though not a great board and his stats seem fishy so he's probably calling with his 2 overs+. CB Turn would've been a good play. He's probably betting turn with his entire range since you gave up. His range is so wide so I don't see any reason to not bet turn. Hope that helps
Feb. 13, 2014 | 6:28 p.m.
I think its a close decision, considering no reads or history. I don't think just saying players never bluff raise on river is a good reason to say it was a good fold, even if its true. I think the better approach is what is villain's range in this situation.
I think his range consists of missed draws and backdoor made hands. I think its unlikely he has an overpair or flopped a set of QQ's because we have blockers to both and he likely 3bets pre. Set of T's or 8's would likely raise flop or turn with draw heavy board and probably won't raise when flush draw hits river. J9 is possible but again, I see him raising the turn with the 2nd club hitting.
Backdoor made hands are probably any straight draw or pair plus draw with clubs that turned the flush draw and hit on the river. IMO this is probably the case with his smallish river raise which seems to be a value raise instead of a bluff. If you're read was he doesn't get out of line then I think it was a good fold, if he made some other spewy plays or river raises I think it makes it a lot closer and probably a call. Hope I helped!
Feb. 11, 2014 | 5:38 a.m.
P.S. your name is awesome, haha, I can already tell I would get along with you
Feb. 11, 2014 | 5:26 a.m.
I'm interested, I'm a 25NL player. I'm US EST zone, but if you're playing till 5am then 11pm for me is perfect since I work during the day. Not quite at your level of experience but I've been playing for 3.5 years. I've been trying techniques on my own and I know I'm not good at teaching myself, so I think this would be a great opportunity. I'm eager to get better so just let me know! Thx
I think flop check and turn bet is fine (could bet slightly smaller on turn since that'll get the same job done). Give up river since he's folding hands you already beat. Hope that helps.
Aug. 9, 2015 | 11:05 p.m.