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I agree with Xptboy and I also think the size is ok. His range seem inelastic, meaning he will call a big bet as likely as a small bet. I think you played the hand great!

EDIT Was to hasty, HelloImWayne is probably right in that checking the turn is best. He won't fold a straight or flush to one bet and if he has a wrap, we're ahead but we can't protect to just that hand in my opinion.

Dec. 8, 2017 | 12:52 p.m.

I liked the video and the format. Can't see why we're not potting the AA54 on A97 with so low spr. The button was given 20% needed equity even without implied odds. I can see a lot of wraps who has good equity against us. I guess you wanna bet 1/3 with most of your range?!

Dec. 7, 2017 | 12:11 p.m.

Comment | ZeroDegrees commented on New Blog

Hi Seacombe! This sounds very interesting, am looking forward to your posts. Could you elaborate on why disgussing hands as a study method is a waste of time? GL in the meantime!

Dec. 7, 2017 | 8:40 a.m.

Very valuable! I have 2 questions;
If I would want to analyse my flop play, should I limit it to HU first?
What's the differences between hu and multiway flop play in your opinion?

Dec. 5, 2017 | 7:05 p.m.

My saying is "it's (player pool) full of nut hunters" ;). I agree with you that the river call is fairly weak. Turn changes everything from a great flop, where I felt I wasn't that threatened. The call down is probably spewing.

Nov. 29, 2017 | 7:12 p.m.

Hand History | ZeroDegrees posted in PLO: QQJT on KT9rK8 deep
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $24.67 (Hero)
SB: $23.91
BB: $26.40
UTG: $8.54
MP: $3.37
CO: $1.98
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BN with Q J Q T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.65, BB folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50
SB is 26/18/11 over 150 hands
Flop ($2.00) K 9 T
SB bets $0.60, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.22, SB calls $1.62
Really don't know what to bet. A straight is vulnerable, so I think a raise is best. Maybe I should raise pot? In hindsight, maybe it's between just calling and raising pot.
Turn ($6.44) K 9 T K
SB checks, Hero checks
Can't bet here, it would have to be bet/fold, I'm hoping for a really cheap showdown
River ($6.44) K 9 T K 8
SB bets $6.19, Hero calls $6.19
which certainly didn't happen. She rarely has KK, maybe TT or 99. I figured she has enough bare AA or QJ. Is this ok to bluffcatch with?

Nov. 29, 2017 | 2:28 p.m.

Comment | ZeroDegrees commented on 2plo eff350bb

We're deep and oop, I would just call preflop. Would also just check/call on the flop. We only have top and bottom pair right now, but great equity. But I'm really not sure about the flop. Maybe the best way is to get it in. Against his big reraise I would call too, afraid of sets. (which he still can have even if we have the J and 5 blocker). The turn bet we would have to call after a check/call would then be smaller, as played I would still just check/call the turn. His play screams a set. The river would be player dependent, maybe we can check hoping to induce, since he seems to be in the shove mode and it seems hard to get any worse to call a river bet. That's my 2 cent.

And I also think it's overplay, maybe more like spewing. He only has top 2 on a wet board, with only 4 outs to a boat

Nov. 26, 2017 | 4:30 p.m.

Don't know what I was thinking with that logic with the shove. It's obvious we can't get him off a straight anyway. I think it's a good check/call this cheap.

Nov. 24, 2017 | 10:33 p.m.

Great video! I feel I can now starting to learn how to play! You got yourself a fan!

Greatly inspired I proceeded to playing. I checked IP w initiative on a paired flop since I had little chance to win if I get called I reasoned and was promptly sucked out by a hand who should have folded. I checked 2 other hands and didn't c-bet for those reasons and lost. Think a c-bet would have worked at least in 1 of them.I think I misunderstood it. Surely there are situations where we c-bet with little equity?! For instance if we open utg KQJ9ss and the flop comes T66r.

Nov. 24, 2017 | 1:01 p.m.

If I have counted correctly there's 9.1 euro in the pot on the turn and 2 flush draws. And you have 15.5 euros, so I think it's best to just pot it; you have the nuts and possibly your flush draw may be live.

As played I think it's to cheap to call the river. And since I would be calling the river I might as well shove myself. There's still some flush draws, straights and sometimes I see 2 pairs in his range.

Nov. 24, 2017 | 11:14 a.m.

Comment | ZeroDegrees commented on best line of play?

I also think XC is best. Suniram, you're comments are golden, can you please explain more why it's best to check/fold versus a bet and a call? Is it because a nut flush draw is more likely then?

Nov. 24, 2017 | 11 a.m.

Hard spot 5-handed. The BU bet seems weak. I don't think we can raise, but we have top 2 pairs. The K-high flush draw may be dominated and can be hard to play against too much action. Players may continue with JT9 or just a gut shot. UTG may have AA, maybe with the nut flush draw.

I think we have enough with top 2 to call, but never to raise.

Nov. 24, 2017 | 10:47 a.m.

Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $6.24 (Hero)
SB: $4.95
BB: $8.65
UTG: $10.58
MP: $17.22
CO: $5.43
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is BN with T 5 8 7
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.17, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.58, 2 folds, MP calls $0.41
MP is 17/6/0 90 hands. Tried to get HU since I can't play this hand otherwise. It's connected and fairly disguised (my 3-bet is very low, maybe 2% max over last months). On the other hand my opponent seems very nitty and so has a lot of AA in his range and when he has that, he puts me on wraps most likely. I don't think it's a bad 3-bet generally but I may gone completely bananas? I wasn't actually even afraid to call a 4-bet, since it's often clear what to do on the flop
Flop ($1.23) T 5 9
MP checks, Hero bets $0.83, MP calls $0.83
Betting $1 is probably better.
Turn ($2.89) T 5 9 J
MP checks, Hero checks
This check I really like! We're way ahead or behind and we keep his range wide
River ($2.89) T 5 9 J 6
MP bets $2.78, Hero calls $2.78
This was the plan on the turn.

Nov. 22, 2017 | 11:29 a.m.

A new beginning:
-gonna deposit $200 and play plo5

My goals
-do the plo video learning path
-find a warm up routine
-review hands

Saturday 25 nov: EDIT Will summarize later, so far it's a good start. New, acute goal:
-Walk at least 50 minutes each day. Strained heart, need to get in shape, kinda yesterday.
-Long term goal is to lose enough weight to be able to start running. Reach 92.5 kg (around 98-99 atm) and start running.

Motivator: I watched an episode of Scorpion about a girl who lived in a plastic bubble. One of her dreams was to be outside and feel the sun in her face. We take so much for granted. To be able to walk, to not live in a plastic bubble is more valuable than any money. Now I can walk, I can lift weights, can get good at poker and other things. I only need to be more focused, ambitious, put in the time and effort and my life can be more fantastic!

Nov. 20, 2017 | 2:55 p.m.

when i get on discord it says i need a 4 digit tag. Am i missing something?

Oct. 31, 2017 | 10:17 a.m.

As I said I realized what gto is in poker. I tried to think a situation where I could give an example. Haven't find any. Usually most guys are nut-hunters at plo5. But lets say they don't always bet f+t+r with nuts and a signed guarentee from God. Never mind cards. I wondered how much I should lead on a blank river. Let's say I have nut flush 4/5 and a nut flush blocker 1/5. I figured a 70% river lead (standard size for me) would be best.

Sept. 28, 2017 | 3:53 a.m.

I have issues, I'm not afraid of any action freezes, a 9 or so outs to the turn usually hits in my mind. It's not that far fetched if you consider the plo ring on stars and the ultimatebet cheaters. Don't get me started on ipoker, played there for some years. So, why do you play u wonder. I play because I think it's a mental problem and I think I can still win vs bots (ipoker, and I did win a little). I suspect there are still people cheating somehow on Stars. But I think Stars is the only serious one who tries to combat it. Still, the plo ring was discovered by players.

I have also noticed that I've won a gread deal (not for u guys, $17k, 3 years ago, then I didn't win). Also noting that I'm writing from my heart and find myself a bit afar from what I meant to reply.

I have learned a lot about mental problems.

It's really simple to play if you have a clear head. Last night I just realized what game theory optimal is, and I have read a university course about it but never believed the concept in poker, really stupid, I know.

About the hand:
I think I should c-bet close to pot on the flop. But I don't believe in a 3-bet. We're deep and a sensible player would probably have to fold to aggression when we don't hit on turn or river. I mean, he can bluff us off our hand. I hope I'm wrong, my gut tells me to jam it. Phil (mom) didnt' jam a straight on turn, saying something like that.

On a personal note, my feeling of rigged has passed in a sense. I have now won a hand! (and more, can be lucky)

And remember: just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that not everyone are out to KILL YOU!!!

PS I started this as a view on the hand posted and it spiraled.

Sept. 28, 2017 | 3:43 a.m.

If you check turn you keep his range wider, letting him bluff. I think a X/c is best, not sure.

Sept. 17, 2017 | 7:03 p.m.

Hi all, here's an update!
I have done well in $'s after moving up to the nose-bleeding games at PLO5! I'm experiencing growing in life as well as poker. Like a foreign alien life in a sci-fi movie.

What I've been thinking about:
Phil's open raise with Q865ds in CO
Will update, in a tourney break now.

Sept. 15, 2017 | 7:01 p.m.

Hi, checked some tourney after 12 gmt and noticed it was just small tourneys with under $1K guaranteed. Stars also had a $60k and $30k guaranteed triple turbo and now they only seem to attract a tenth of their original players. Are online poker losing players now?

Sept. 15, 2017 | 12:05 a.m.

polarized bet?

Sept. 14, 2017 | 11:58 p.m.

Shamelessly and without hesitation I like Federico's comment (you made my day). I think the near pot size bet on the flop polarizes your range. I would take it as less likely that you had the nut flush, more like a blocker bluff. The real question is:

are we getting trolled?

Sept. 14, 2017 | 6:45 p.m.

I'm not sure he necessarily has a straight flush. The turn shows 4 diamonds, making a flush a little less likely. And if he happens to have a Q-high flush with a set of KK he may do this. Or he may have 3-4 diamonds himself. And there's also a possibility he's on tilt. I remember calling in these spot, although convinced (not enough though) I would lose. And majority of the times I won. Straight flush is really hard to get after all.

Sept. 14, 2017 | 2:10 p.m.

Comment | ZeroDegrees commented on Third Ball

Very interesting to read! And what great work ethics you have, but I guess that's what it takes to reach so high! Hope you run +ev soon both at the table and off the table!

Sept. 13, 2017 | 4:14 p.m.

I think it's best to get called only when we have over 2/3 equity. Let's say there's $100 in the pot and we bet $100. If the other player folds, we win $100. When we get called there's $300 in the pot. With 75% equity we win $225 - our $100 bet = $125. With 60% equity we win $180 - $100 = $80. So if I've thought correctly the cut off points is 2/3 equity, where we win $200 - $100 = $100.

Reasoning as above the cut off point when we bet $50 into a $100 pot would be 75%. A call would then only be better for us if we had more equity than that.

But if I was playing in a casino and was better than the hesitant caller I would definitely go for running anything the caller wanted, keeping the worse players happy.

Sept. 7, 2017 | 10:39 a.m.

Comment | ZeroDegrees commented on PLO site selection

What does he mean? Have googled some and there were reports that some were able to see the stats on the anonymous players. Is that so now also? If this isn't a troll post, something is off. Why would anyone pay for a free account, unless they live in the USA? But there are sites that accept americans? If it's a cheat, it's just sad.

Sept. 3, 2017 | 3:51 p.m.

Thanks! I can now resume my life;)

Sept. 3, 2017 | 11:13 a.m.

Dear Sirs! This question has been bothering me for years. The way I see it: if you're the better player and get it in with more outs than the villain and run it twice, you would have 1 less outs on the second run. So this is better for the worse player. I'm confused (in a lot of ways). I would be very grateful if someone could answer, so I can go on with my life.

Sept. 2, 2017 | 10 a.m.

Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $7.51
SB: $3.03
BB: $1.14
UTG: $2.05
MP: $8.47 (Hero)
CO: $6.09
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is MP with J K J K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.07, CO folds, BN calls $0.07, 2 folds
BN 29/22/3 90 hands
Flop ($0.17) 6 K 7
Hero bets $0.11, BN raises to $0.36, Hero calls $0.25
Maybe I should c-bet near pot. I decided to not reraise since we were so deep and I wouldn't know how to play on T, 9, 8, 5 and clubs. Maybe it's best to check/call keeping his range wide? But it's a wet board out there, we need tons of protection and since we're ahead over 50% almost always, bets going in are value bets until further notice.
Turn ($0.89) 6 K 7 3
Hero checks, BN bets $0.65, Hero raises to $2.81, BN raises to $7.08 and is all in, Hero calls $4.27
I couldn't believe he would raise with the lower straight draw, so thought I had the nuts. X/call must be best. We have 2nd nuts, great showdown value, implied odds if a club falls that pairs the board. To me raising the flop right away seemed more indicative towards a set. Have now noticed that all kinds of hands raises the flop: nuts, 2 pairs and flush and straight draws.
River ($15.05) 6 K 7 3 Q

Sept. 2, 2017 | 9:35 a.m.

Thanks for the answer! I'm not sure how much difference the range that a player play versus the range pokerjuice gives him. Let me make an extreme example: A player who only raises all his AA's, around 2.5%. Pokerjuice probably has a completely other range, with AA maybe only 1.2% of those 2.5%. If I were to play HU against this guy 1 hand and analyze that 1 hand later, pokerjuice would be way off (rather the opponent:)) in equities and such.

This was an extreme scenario. I don't think this will have any major impact, especially when the ranges approaches 25%+. Do I really need to worry about different ranges for pokerjuice and player? The analysis will be off, but how much? When ranges get wider, the differences decreases, so this may only be a concern with very tight ranges.

Sept. 2, 2017 | 9:15 a.m.

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