The question to bet the flop is more if villians you are facing are aggresive or passive. If it is the usual live game people like to either be crazy/super station. I mean if they are aggro lead on this board all day long and hope to get raised. Since it will be hard to you to go for 3-streets of value against stations. Perhaps x can be a nice option since IF someobdy do decide to bet you can x/r and probably bet for almost stacks on turn.
What I am aiming at here is that you WANT to either play a very big pot as soon as possibel. Or a small one. I do not think the runouts are so imporant since almost any of them makes your hands worse therefore u can bet-fold on certain turns if u now decide to lead the flop.
For those reasons I do prefer a x on the flop UNLESS people are prone to certain reactions based on what is happening.(like raising bets light from you). Atleast that way u might get into an interesting spot on the turn when u go x on the flop then x/r on the turn if people bet and call.
As played fold the river, u block only a 6 and based on live they can call here with JT9A,J89A all day long on the flop. Even AQJx is very plausabel since people call with those holdings all day long in my games.
Oct. 10, 2017 | 3:03 a.m.
To answer your second question, you have 2 ways here: Either play short and just limp-raise or cover everybody and try to play some poker. The second option is more based on seeing flops with hands that is good for multiway nut-potential.
Hands that are very strong in this category would be something like Ac6cTdTh.
Garbage online but a very good and playabel hand live since u aim to get in cheap, hit hard and play it harder or get out. No fancy plays here basicly.
Aug. 16, 2017 | 2:45 p.m.
1st, DONT GO INTO ALL OTHER DETAILS THEN THE ACTUAL HAND ;).
You start reading and wonder where the real hand is.... sigh.
If you have KK+ in shallow game you just limp-raise it in. You over-analyse a very basic spot. Its EV+ in the long run vs wide range therefore not much to think about. Even if the flop comes something like 489 after you potted its a jam if the spr is lower then 1usually 3-way.
Aug. 16, 2017 | 2:42 p.m.
FOLD that piece of crap hand preflop, dammit people like calling with shit if its raised. The rest is super standard played. The only reason u should complete with your hand is if NOBODY raised preflop. playing 88 for set value 9 handed is just bad OOP.
Top set+fd usually is as good as it gets so there is no wrong just bombing in money. And if they fold out equity once in a while its nice aswell.
Aug. 11, 2017 | 12:31 p.m.
For a live enviroment and based on villians you played your hand perfect, I just think he mostly decided to go with his hand 100% when he elected to raise. Rest as theysay is history... and you can have KKxx here actually. If its something like KK72r I dont think you have to push small equity edge preflop.
Therefore this is mostly a cooler...
Aug. 11, 2017 | 12:25 p.m.
I think a similiar pre session routine is very imporant that makes you associate of going out to play poker. It can be anything but it has to prepare you for the session. For mine I always do these things:
1. Take a cold shower (Shave if needed)
That way I try to be fresh and alert for my session at the same time in a calm state. Basicly ready to fight but with a cool head ;)
Aug. 8, 2017 | 9:30 a.m.
He snapped me off on the river and showed T7xx... so its kinda hard to know what he had :). If it was somethig like AT7J I am VERY happy with my bet. Another fact could be about min-raising the turn. That was something I DID
NOT consider ingame but could be really nice against JJ/QQ and he could get stubborn.
I was on call-off mode on the river so if he had 8xxx and X/R me I kinda have to give it to him since he was so damn tilted. Then again he could have had TT in his range but I really doubt that would be playing that way.
As always ty for a nice feedback bacon!
Aug. 1, 2017 | 6:55 p.m.
I think we should start and give villian a ''tighter'' range and see how we perform vs it. I guess you can exclude most 66/22 set combos but the TT should be fairly relevant here.
When you are this deep and you meet somebody with the descreption with ''thinking'' he might clearly have aces here and just not want to 4-bet and turn his hand face upp oop.
I think if u get it here you should ALWAYS be behind. The only hand u basicly are crushing is something like T897 with clubs. The rest should be TT/T6+clubs or god forbid AA+clubs.
So as you can see if u lean towards calling we have to think what we are doing on certain turns, If the board pairs and he keeps betting, or a club. I think if it blanks and he bombs its probably a call since u might have 33% with money behind.
Overall a TOUGH spot where you have to see how you perform vs a ''tighter'' range as when people almost 400 bb's deep they dont usually mess around on SPR 10 flops to get people off overpairs with something like T+gutter.
July 20, 2017 | 4:07 p.m.
The only thing I would have to disagree on is leading out, thing is if u get raised you can't really jam as people who raise a bet on this board in live games have either JJ/A345/J534 and I am like 40% dog vs that range. Sure IF they just call its fine, but people can still just flat you with a set and GII on asafe turn aswell.
I am just pointing out if you get raised here and you can fold out alot of equity on the turn to a pottbet I assume? Unless we have JJ/55 in our range here?
Anyway my reason (not a good one) to bet the turn is that he will have some A534/A234/5342 in his range once in a while and that is a hand I want to put preassure on. Problem is ofc once I assume that hands are in his range I have to follow through on the river...
July 8, 2017 | 2:05 p.m.
From a range point off view an ACE and things CLOSE to broadway cards should vafor the 3-bettor? Since most people 3-bet ABB/BBB, this board is more favorable for your range then his I assume its a bet. But you pointed out that idea yourself.
Another factor to consider in HU is what kind of sizing do you use after 3-bet?
If its alot of 3/4 2/3 I think having this hand in your x-b range is fine as you can catch some steal and also indicates that you wont be giving up every time you x after 3-bet.
But if u bet like 1/2 or even less I think u can bet this hand. Well thats atleast some theory to get the idea juices flowing. Would be nice to hear what you think about my comment :).
June 6, 2017 | 6:11 p.m.
I dont really get the question as I assume there should be some tells or specifics on the villians here? After all you do make some preflop decisions that will affect ranges on your later streets based on how they are played aswell?
As above comment stated you x 3 streets in a row, If you for example have a straight on the turn and villian is very aggro I assume you will more often x-c in your range then x-r against somebody who will not barell off on blank rivers for example...
June 2, 2017 | 2:44 p.m.
Maybe he means as an online question? But if you are discussing live its a kinda simple answer: LIMP MOST OF YOUR RANGE :D. Since alot of pots go multiway and people dont like to fold limping is quite nice way of combating maniacs, after all you have position and can see what happens.
May 30, 2017 | 4:06 a.m.
Well, my question was basicly if its more EV to shove/call the flop? I mean after all the spr is shallow and that's my main argument for jamming while on the other part getting it in vs sets most off the time is the argument for just calling :D.
May 30, 2017 | 4:05 a.m.
I think ranges dont matter very much in a spr situation of 0.65%. Besides If I did have broadway+spades. Or a hand like AKQJds/KTQJds without spades I would gii them aswell. Although those hand I would much more often 3-bet myself. Hands like KKQQ/AKKJ/AKQQ is also a jam since its a gutter. So I do have hands in my range.
Again hand like AKT9ds is another. Your argument of checking to se ''where'' I stand is kinda vague from an EV point off view. Also that the board is ''awful'' dont really make sence based on spr/equity since most board will be between sucking some/hard/awful...
These spots are mostly mathimatical. Besides if I x, one of the villians can assume I am weak and therefore make a more looser play on the board and the other one calls cause off odds or whatever...
So based on the above I have to say there is NOT an option of x-deciding since you will loose more EV in the long run kinda clearly as it:
Lets people realize their equity for free.
They can make you fold WRONG.
May 24, 2017 | 12:30 a.m.
That is not an option, the spr is to small. If I check and so does both off them its just so incredibly bad. I think the only time we have merit by checking is that there is some turns that we like. Here the only turn we do is an A.
What I mean by that is to x-decide, if I now decide to x it would have been to x-fold and nothing else.
Even if the board pairs it can still suck vs 2 people with wide ranges. After all in my games certain fish will call a 3/4-bet with a hand like T233ss.....
May 23, 2017 | 7:41 p.m.
My main reason for sharing this hand actually was because I had been running rough, and started to question my plays. Usually when things go your way you either 1. blame it on variance, 2. You think you played all spots wrong.
Thing is we are emotional to our results and sometimes it can cloud our judgement. It ''felt'' like I did the right play here but I was unsure if I thinking I made a mistake was based on me emotionally see the result. Therefore I decided to ask the community. As you can see most people say its a clear jam. So I can feel good about that I played the hand well and keep doing what I am doing and its probably just variance.
Thing is I have seen/met alot of people who blame they negative results on bad luck which in my opinion is dangeroues since when you blame somthing else it can in reality be your bad play that created all from the start.
To summerize, you need a clear way off thinking and seeing stuff in poker. An objective opinion which is emotional free is one off the better ways to find out :).
May 23, 2017 | 3:52 p.m.
I think the main reason people leave out results as not to be carried away with ''result'' oriented thinking/view of the spot. It means you can see the spot from a more ''blank'' view and therefore give an opinion based on the same facts as hero had when he made the decision.