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Ok so calling down isn't a bad play. Good to know. Thanks guys :) and acmilan, your explanation made perfect sense bro, thank you

April 1, 2016 | 4:23 a.m.

Thanks for your response :) Here's the problem I face. If villain bets 3/4 pot on flop on dry board and you think you're only losing to AA/KK, you call, if you call on flop, then you're not really worried about AA/KK because if you were then why call on flop? When the turn bet is around $18, then if you call you've already invested $28 with like $22 behind. So I think to myself if I'm going to fold river, then why am I not folding turn, and if I'm folding turn then why not fold flop and if folding flop, then why not fold pre? So then I'm still left wondering at what point do you know your AK is no good? For me, calling till the river and then folding is very frustrating and costly.

March 31, 2016 | 10:43 a.m.

Post | AlCologne posted in NLHE: AK hits flop and loses to Aces

Hi everyone. Is it ever correct to lay down AK on a dry board (K,9,4 rainbow for e.g.)
Scenario is 50NL, I'm in EP and raise 3x blinds, get 3 bet to about 3.5x and I flat which I do when I'm OOP. Against LAGs I do 4 bet, but if they don't have a fold button then I either shove or flat. Today I flatted, board was dry and I hit my king. I checked, he bet 3/4 pot (about $7), turn was a brick, he bet 3/4 again (about $18) and I shoved, he called and he had Aces. In this case villain was new to the table, no info, but I'm not really trying to get into HH mode here, I want to know how you avoid going broke with AK when you hit in general. At which point do you assume you're beat by aces or trip kings? Or is it a case of "we are good enough times to just absorb the times when we are beat by AA/KK?

March 31, 2016 | 10 a.m.

Comment | AlCologne commented on Hand History

I agree ^ thank you

March 1, 2016 | 8:16 a.m.

Post | AlCologne posted in NLHE: Hand History

No hand converter works for me
Villain is a TAG but does bluff at times. I have a TAG image and when I'm in the pot, people are usually careful because I only play premium hands and they know I like to set mine. The reason he didn't re-raise at the end was in fear that I had 10s, he knows I don't play A10 much. I usually only raise when I have the nuts. So in this situation, should I have just flat called on river in fear of being beaten by the few combos that beat me? Or was the raise just fine? Is shoving correct? Just wanna see the best line. Thanks.
50NL table
Hero in SB with 7d7h
Villian Raises from CO with 9s9h
Pot $3.20
Flop 9cAs10s
check, check
Turn 7c
I bet half pot $1.68, Villain raises to $5.04, my gut tells me I don't like my hand on this board, hoping board pairs. (pot now $12.77)
River Ac (board is now 9c As 10s 7c Ac) hoping he has a flush or Ax combos. I check to induce check-raise. Villain bets $6.72 which I saw as weak, I raised to $20.16 and Villain flat called, showing the better full house.

Feb. 28, 2016 | 3:48 a.m.

Villain is a TAG but does bluff at times. I have a TAG image and when I'm in the pot, people are usually careful because I only play premium hands and they know I like to set mine. The reason he didn't re-raise at the end was in fear that I had 10s, he knows I don't play A10 much. I usually only raise when I have the nuts. So in this situation, should I have just flat called on river in fear of being beaten by the few combos that beat me? Or was the raise just fine? Is shoving correct? Just wanna see the best line. Thanks.

50NL table

Hero in SB with 7d7h
Villian Raises from CO with 9s9h
Pot $3.20

Flop 9cAs10s
check, check
Turn 7c
I bet half pot $1.68, Villain raises to $5.04, my gut tells me I don't like my hand on this board, hoping board pairs. (pot now $12.77)
River Ac (board is now 9c As 10s 7c Ac) hoping he has a flush or Ax combos. I check to induce check-raise. Villain bets $6.72 which I saw as weak, I raised to $20.16 and Villain flat called, showing the better full house.

Feb. 25, 2016 | 3:54 a.m.

I see what you're saying. And normally it won't be top pair (and overcard) with flush draw, this was his best case scenario so if he only had a flush draw with say bottom pair or no pair, he would slow down on the turn. In this particular case he may not have slowed down but this is a small % of time in the long run. I think I understand what you're saying. Get it in with 70% EV to not lose EV in the long run. Thank you for the taking the time kind Sir.

Feb. 18, 2016 | 4:44 a.m.

That's what I was meaning. If I just call and the river is a club, I can get away from it if he shoves, but if it's not a club then I can shove and he'll most likely call anyway, but if I shove on the flop and the club comes then my stack goes, but if I just call and delay shove till turn if there's no club then I make more money in the long run, don't I?

Feb. 17, 2016 | 11:05 a.m.

Maniac who plays every pot calls from EP, the HJ (relatively tight) limps, I'm in the cut off with AQs (spades) so I raise 3x blinds, maniac calls, HJ calls, flop comes Ad, Kh, 10d, maniac checks, HJ checks, I bet half pot, maniac calls, HJ shoves for additional 5,000 chips (pot is now like 19,000), I call, maniac folds, HJ has AK of clubs, he wins. I have no idea where I went wrong.

HJ has AKS
Hero has AQs
Flop Ad, Kh, 10d

Feb. 17, 2016 | 4:55 a.m.

To reduce suckouts, what about calling raise on flop and if no club on turn then shoving? Likely he will still call, but my equity increases and if there's a club then I get out cheaper. Is this optimal play? Or still thinking shoving at 70% equity is better? Thanks btw guy

Feb. 16, 2016 | 11:23 p.m.

Full ring 50NL, no info about Villain. Villain 3 bets on button, I feel it's just a steal attempt as the table has been very aggressive, I have 66 and flop comes 6,4,10 all clubs, I don't think he has a made flush and if he does then I have outs, so I check raise him and he goes all in, I snap call and he has Ac10h, top pair with flush draw. Calculations are 70% equity for me. I feel that...short of a made flush, that's his next best hand and I'm a favourite, so the question I have is...should I just call on the flop to see a turn and then evaluate or make a move if there's no club...or is getting it all in good play if I think I'm ahead? 2 more clubs came and I lost my stack if you were wondering. Thank you.

Feb. 13, 2016 | 11:18 p.m.

I sold myself on the idea that AK, KK, AQ were more likely than 44, QQ, AA. You're right, this is a call down. Lesson learned, thank you.

Feb. 13, 2016 | 10:14 p.m.

Sorry I'm brand new to this...what should I do? How?

Feb. 13, 2016 | 7:33 a.m.

Hi, looking back now, I'm thinking after being re-reraised on the flop, I could of slowed down. Villain does get creative, early he raised me $22 after I bet $5 with just 3rd pair and a gutshot, he's a solid player but a bit on the aggressive side, but not totally out of line most times. With his UTG raise and the flop the way it was, there was no way I was going to put him on 44, 43 or 45. QQ and AA crossed my mind but it was one of those situations where I thought I'm beating KK and AK, AJ and I had a blocker for both QQ and AA. Again I didn't even consider 44 just because it's so unlikely to flop quads. Afterwards I thought yeah a bit of a cooler, but at which point do you get away from this and how would you have played it? Is it too nitty to check call all streets? Your insight would be appreciated. Thank you.

#Game No : 437744787
888poker Hand History for Game 437744787
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *
Table Naperville 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: BRiTvA0033 ( $51.08 )
Seat 2: yehbutnah ( $61.53 )
Seat 3: nmptwq ( $50 )
Seat 4: goodfellas07 ( $44.37 )
Seat 5: null0fish ( $124.71 )
Seat 6: rantheban14 ( $27.99 )
Seat 7: AlCologne ( $74.82 )
Seat 9: Shureg22 ( $50 )
Seat 10: SaintLama ( $126.28 )
AlCologne posts small blind [$0.25]
Shureg22 posts big blind [$0.50]
* Dealing down cards *
Dealt to AlCologne [ Qs, As ]
SaintLama raises [$1.43]
BRiTvA0033 folds
yehbutnah folds
nmptwq folds
goodfellas07 folds
null0fish folds
rantheban14 folds
AlCologne calls [$1.18]
Shureg22 folds
* Dealing flop * [ 4d, Qd, 4h ]
AlCologne checks
SaintLama bets [$2]
AlCologne raises [$5.68]
SaintLama raises [$11.04]
AlCologne calls [$7.36]
* Dealing turn * [ Ah ]
AlCologne checks
SaintLama bets [$11]
AlCologne raises [$22]
SaintLama calls [$11]
* Dealing river * [ 3s ]
AlCologne bets [$38.35]
SaintLama calls [$38.35]
* Summary *
AlCologne shows [ Qs, As ]
SaintLama shows [ 4c, 4s ]
SaintLama collected [ $146.14 ]

Feb. 13, 2016 | 3:49 a.m.

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