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agreed that calling turn and mostly folding river seems best and least exploitable/best play in the long term.

Nov. 22, 2013 | 7:44 a.m.

Helllo Lumpizaver, 

Thanks for the post.

On the flop I think betting is the best option, since we can barell a ton of turns

What is considered a good turn? His range seems rather well protected and uncapped. I think we can just mindlessly barrel some turns with a hand that has does not have a lot of good options.  but I don't think it is a slam dunk.

TURN: A nice scare card so I like you barrel, 

is it a scare card? seems slightly better for his range then mine. when the flop rolls out like this, I think he will be winning this pot a high % of time but that's besides the point.

and we definitely have quite some tens in our range.

agreed.

I like a bet around 300, we still get to fold a lot of chops and we are not burning money if he has a Q. Maybe a smaller bet size can also be considered (half pot) because it looks more like a Q inviting a call.

cool I think I do too.

I am not familiar with 2/4 HU regs so I don't know whether they might bluff jam over a smaller river bet.

nor am I. but it certainly takes  a certain kind of player to bluff jam in these spots and most regs are not going to consider raise/bluffing it at these stakes if we bet more then 1/2 pot on the river. So with that said, I am sure the most profitable line would be like betting around 300 as you suggested on the river.

Nov. 22, 2013 | 6:20 a.m.

My thoughts--- (feel free to correct errors)

Preflop: my 3bet % is pretty low and think I should probably flat this preflop and 3bet stuff like 62hh. However, whatever.

Flop: I think flop is interesting. This is not the board texture I want to barrel air hands. Lets look at all my options with this hand...

C/C is pretty decent option otf and my range is somewhat protected by the other hands I can sometimes call with. 

 C/R  flop seems a bit ambitious although kind of interesting. Probably don't  want much of a cr range on this board texture with stacks. 

So I think, c/c >> bet>>c/r.

Turn: Ugly spot. I just want to realize my equity and don't think I have to face a raise all that often if I bet myself (however could be wrong). While if I check with 5 high and he bets it may be more correct to just c/f then flat. 

River: Trying to fold him off a chop, and it all comes down to how much Qx is in his range and how often he will fold chops.

I could also bet a number that is a nonshove say like $300 and feel pretty good about not facing a bluff shove. It would save me money in the longrun assuming they are never going to bluff over it. 

cliffnotes: Consider alternative flop play (ideally cc). Rest of stuff is relatively close I think. 

Nov. 21, 2013 | 10:07 a.m.

Post | Cleopatra posted in NLHE: 3 barreling a weird run-out.

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Hero- opening 92% hands, 12% 3bet

SB- opening 100% hands, 26% 3bet, 65% fold to 3bet.

Over 200 hands. If you want any other stats just ask.


Hand

 $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players


Hero (BB): $1,028.26 (257.1 bb)

SB: $703.53 (175.9 bb)


Preflop: Hero is BB with 4h 3h

SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $40.90, SB calls $32.90


Flop: ($81.80) Jh 8d 9h (2 players)

Hero bets $57.50, SB calls $57.50


Turn: ($196.80) 7s (2 players)

Hero bets $127, SB calls $127


River: ($450.80) Td (2 players)

Hero shoves ~478 more (puts him all in 1.06PSB)

Things that confuse me--

1.) Preferred flop line with this hand: CR>>CC>>Bet, Bet>>CC>Cr, etc.

2.) Thoughts on the turn?

3.) Optimal river bet size.


Nov. 21, 2013 | 7:09 a.m.

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